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Right, because the box art somehow matters?
I like how anyone who doesn't like the box art is told how the box art doesn't matter, and then everyone who does like the box art is told how box art is all part of the overall branding and identity of the product. So, the box art is either important or unimportant, depending on the person you talk to.
Is this thing truly ready/cooked or is Apple just rushing it out the door again. I was really hoping for an all new UI but it seems thats not going to happen till 10.7
And once again... Why were you expecting a new UI in 10.6? Did you do any research at all? Did it not click with you when Apple made it extremely clear that Snow Leopard is evolutionary, not revolutionary, and thus would not feature any major end-user changes?
How is that the fault of Snow Leopard when it is a third party issue of incompatibility?

What obvious bugs? you're talking about a bad experience because your installation is riddled to the gills with hackware? are you blaming third party applications for crashing on the operating system when the responsibility for compatibility lays with the application vendor and not the operating system vendor?
What I'm curious to know is that whenever third-party applications crash on Windows, it's automatically Microsoft's fault, yet when the same thing happens on Mac OS X, it's never Apple's fault. Get a BSOD on Windows because of some buggy third-party drivers? Blame Microsoft, it must be their fault.

The double standards that some people hold here astound me.
Microsoft has beaten Leopard? You must be joking :eek:
I know this is really hard to believe, but some people prefer Windows to Mac OS X. Just because Apple make something doesn't mean that everyone will find it better and/or easier to do. Most don't, in fact, as evidenced by Apple's extremely low market share.
 
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Did it ever possibly occur to anyone that Apple intends to use both sets of packagings?

Here's my theory on it. Most Leopard users are going to take advantage of the $29 Leopard upgrade. At $29, the last thing Apple should do (if they're smart) is spend a fortune on packaging. My guess is that for all of those upgrading, Apple will be going with a plastic sleeve or cardboard sleeve for the disc and have it come in a box or packaging that's lighter in color, uses less ink, and costs less to produce in volume. In that vain, the Snow Leopard print could be done with less ink and cost to Apple and still have a simplistic elegance befitting Apple.

Is it as awesome as the packaging possessing "The Shiny™"? Obviously not... but then again, beggars can't be choosers and you're getting a highly refined and significantly upgraded, at the core, OS for $29. Even the majority of Vista upgraders are having to shell out at least $79 and by comparison... after the debacle that Vista was, they should be getting the upgrades to 7 for free just to make the darn thing usable/enjoyable, trouble-free, and minimize the nuisances. I should know... my brand Dell Inspiron 1545's Control Panels within Vista, on a machine that's only a month old (and the only apps. that I'd installed over stock was Google Chrome and an Antivirus FWIW), constantly hangs and takes out Explorer on a regular basis. Thankfully, since I bought it within the last month, I get the Windows 7 upgrade for free. Hopefully it cures what ails it. LoL That said, after the Engadget preview review of the GM, it doesn't sound like IE is cured. :\ Not that I'd want to run that thing anyhow.

Now keep in mind... not everyone that might buy Snow Leopard is a Leopard user. For those that don't own Leopard today that might be inclined to buy Snow Leopard for their older Non-Leopard equipped Intel machines... there will be a need to have a regular $129 retail package. For those customers... "The Full Monty" is more liable to be in order and as a result of the higher pricetag, they are perhaps more inclined to get a more premium packaging experience. That includes the large box with holographic-style treatments (see the Leopard box or the Snow Leopard box shots shown on Apple.com), etc. etc.

I'm not going to say that it is or isn't the real deal, but it does make plausible sense to me that Apple would need a cheaper packaging solution for what is going to be a dirt cheap upgrade to it's Leopard client base. For the amount of time and effort put into it, I'm sure that the $29 isn't remotely a case of Apple getting a huge financial return on the blood, sweat, and tears (and $ to their workers) invested in making this product which is a total spring cleaning and foundation for the future roadmap of the Mac OS going forward. The less money they spend on packaging, the greater potential they have to eek out "some" margins on the sale of the upgrade discs. That said, the more customers Apple switches up to Snow Leopard, the better for any future functionalities that Snow Leopard unlocks that previous OS'es lacked and helps drive the future/new tech within the company.
 
I know this is really hard to believe, but some people prefer Windows to Mac OS X. Just because Apple make something doesn't mean that everyone will find it better and/or easier to do. Most don't, in fact, as evidenced by Apple's extremely low market share.

Whoops, someone fell into the "market share" hole again.

Apple sells a closed system, with an OS that is NOT licensed to everyone and their dog, and which is priced as a Premium product, effectively locking out a large portion of the market.

Which explains why Apple has a lock on on the $1000+ notebook share of the market.

The market isn't one big market. It has segments to it. It's a pyramid. You've got bottom-end, mid-level, and Premium, if those terms help you to understand the principle that the market is made up of divisions. Apple functions and makes an absolute killing at the Premium end.

Apple, as a matter of course and by design, will have lower market share overall. As stated by Jobs, Cook et al, they choose to lock themselves out of certain segments of the market. A Premium product manufacturer doesn't target certain income brackets - there will be consumers that will be absent from their target demographic.

This is what has Microsoft acting so defensive: Windows still has overwhelming unit sale market share, but it is now almost entirely at the low end of the market.
 
This shows a little bit more of the box, barcode and stuff.
Anyone wanna try to figure out whats written on the bottom of the box ?
Its a little blurry....

Its looks like "MAC OS X 10.6 RETAIL"

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Did it ever possibly occur to anyone that Apple intends to use both sets of packagings?

Here's my theory on it. Most Leopard users are going to take advantage of the $29 Leopard upgrade. At $29, the last thing Apple should do (if they're smart) is spend a fortune on packaging. My guess is that for all of those upgrading, Apple will be going with a plastic sleeve or cardboard sleeve for the disc and have it come in a box or packaging that's lighter in color, uses less ink, and costs less to produce in volume. In that vain, the Snow Leopard print could be done with less ink and cost to Apple and still have a simplistic elegance befitting Apple.

Is it as awesome as the packaging possessing "The Shiny™"? Obviously not... but then again, beggars can't be choosers and you're getting a highly refined and significantly upgraded, at the core, OS for $29. Even the majority of Vista upgraders are having to shell out at least $79 and by comparison... after the debacle that Vista was, they should be getting the upgrades to 7 for free just to make the darn thing usable/enjoyable, trouble-free, and minimize the nuisances. I should know... my brand Dell Inspiron 1545's Control Panels within Vista, on a machine that's only a month old (and the only apps. that I'd installed over stock was Google Chrome and an Antivirus FWIW), constantly hangs and takes out Explorer on a regular basis. Thankfully, since I bought it within the last month, I get the Windows 7 upgrade for free. Hopefully it cures what ails it. LoL That said, after the Engadget preview review of the GM, it doesn't sound like IE is cured. :\ Not that I'd want to run that thing anyhow.

Now keep in mind... not everyone that might buy Snow Leopard is a Leopard user. For those that don't own Leopard today that might be inclined to buy Snow Leopard for their older Non-Leopard equipped Intel machines... there will be a need to have a regular $129 retail package. For those customers... "The Full Monty" is more liable to be in order and as a result of the higher pricetag, they are perhaps more inclined to get a more premium packaging experience. That includes the large box with holographic-style treatments (see the Leopard box or the Snow Leopard box shots shown on Apple.com), etc. etc.

I'm not going to say that it is or isn't the real deal, but it does make plausible sense to me that Apple would need a cheaper packaging solution for what is going to be a dirt cheap upgrade to it's Leopard client base. For the amount of time and effort put into it, I'm sure that the $29 isn't remotely a case of Apple getting a huge financial return on the blood, sweat, and tears (and $ to their workers) invested in making this product which is a total spring cleaning and foundation for the future roadmap of the Mac OS going forward. The less money they spend on packaging, the greater potential they have to eek out "some" margins on the sale of the upgrade discs. That said, the more customers Apple switches up to Snow Leopard, the better for any future functionalities that Snow Leopard unlocks that previous OS'es lacked and helps drive the future/new tech within the company.

This seems pretty reasonable. Now, if only we knew whether 10A432 was the GM or not...
 
The picture Apple used is ugly. Couldn't they have been more creative? I think it would be better if it was a side view of a lean-looking Snow Leopard with it's tail wrapped around something. Maybe a disk or some amazing feature.

Stupidest thing I have ever heard, ever. Please... Sit Down!
 
Presentation does help sell a product though.

And this is really getting to the heart of the matter, isn't it?

Certain consumers might not care. But to Apple, their box is much more than just a box - in fact, to any company that understands image, that box is a reflection of the entire organization. It's the graphical representation of what's inside - what the company values, the aesthetics they espouse, their entire attitude toward their product.

If it's important to Apple, it pays to understand why that is. And from that can come a meaningful discussion. It isn't just a box. It's a company making a statement. Everything matters, even the most minute detail. Scott Forstall admitted that he would agonize over even a single pixel. It's all in the details. This is why Apple's image is so polished and so congruent with their prodcuts, from their ads to their Apple Stores, and part of the reason why you'd be proud to own their products.


The picture Apple used is ugly. Couldn't they have been more creative? I think it would be better if it was a side view of a lean-looking Snow Leopard with it's tail wrapped around something. Maybe a disk or some amazing feature.

It's a photo of a very beautiful and rare animal. I assume you think Snow Leoapards, covered in . . . snow . . . LOL, are ugly? :confused:


This shows a little bit more of the box, barcode and stuff.
Anyone wanna try to figure out whats written on the bottom of the box ?
Its a little blurry....

Its looks like "MAC OS X 10.6 RETAIL"

You got it. That is exactly what it says.
 
HAHA what a joke.

do you really think apple would do some thing that ****.

guessing theses came from the same person that said Snow Leopard turned gold.


i think every one need to calm down and stop being fan boys.
:confused: I actually think it looks nice. And I am most certainly not much of a fanboy. IMO, the giagantic X looked very much out of place. This just looks clean and simple.
 
I know this is really hard to believe, but some people prefer Windows to Mac OS X. Just because Apple make something doesn't mean that everyone will find it better and/or easier to do. Most don't, in fact, as evidenced by Apple's extremely low market share.

Apple's low market share is not just an example of people not liking or wanting OS X, in fact FWIW the majority I know do want OS X and a Mac but they hate Apple's "Our way or the highway" ideals on compromise, that and the very realistic Mac tax. It's going to be a lot easier for people to "settle" on a PC thanks to Windows 7 though.
 
This shows a little bit more of the box, barcode and stuff.
Anyone wanna try to figure out whats written on the bottom of the box ?
Its a little blurry....

Its looks like "MAC OS X 10.6 RETAIL"

Click thumb to enlarge

I think it's basically the same as the Leopard retail box. Beside "MAC OS X 10.6 RETAIL" it has "Designed by Apple in California" and Apple's address. Then beside that it has a little message about the software license agreement.

However, one thing I noticed is that the box opens from the top, whereas most Apple products (including software) slide out from the side.
 
Did it ever possibly occur to anyone that Apple intends to use both sets of packagings?

Here's my theory on it. Most Leopard users are going to take advantage of the $29 Leopard upgrade. At $29, the last thing Apple should do (if they're smart) is spend a fortune on packaging. My guess is that for all of those upgrading, Apple will be going with a plastic sleeve or cardboard sleeve for the disc and have it come in a box or packaging that's lighter in color, uses less ink, and costs less to produce in volume. In that vain, the Snow Leopard print could be done with less ink and cost to Apple and still have a simplistic elegance befitting Apple.

Is it as awesome as the packaging possessing "The Shiny™"? Obviously not... but then again, beggars can't be choosers and you're getting a highly refined and significantly upgraded, at the core, OS for $29. Even the majority of Vista upgraders are having to shell out at least $79 and by comparison... after the debacle that Vista was, they should be getting the upgrades to 7 for free just to make the darn thing usable/enjoyable, trouble-free, and minimize the nuisances. I should know... my brand Dell Inspiron 1545's Control Panels within Vista, on a machine that's only a month old (and the only apps. that I'd installed over stock was Google Chrome and an Antivirus FWIW), constantly hangs and takes out Explorer on a regular basis. Thankfully, since I bought it within the last month, I get the Windows 7 upgrade for free. Hopefully it cures what ails it. LoL That said, after the Engadget preview review of the GM, it doesn't sound like IE is cured. :\ Not that I'd want to run that thing anyhow.

Now keep in mind... not everyone that might buy Snow Leopard is a Leopard user. For those that don't own Leopard today that might be inclined to buy Snow Leopard for their older Non-Leopard equipped Intel machines... there will be a need to have a regular $129 retail package. For those customers... "The Full Monty" is more liable to be in order and as a result of the higher pricetag, they are perhaps more inclined to get a more premium packaging experience. That includes the large box with holographic-style treatments (see the Leopard box or the Snow Leopard box shots shown on Apple.com), etc. etc.

I'm not going to say that it is or isn't the real deal, but it does make plausible sense to me that Apple would need a cheaper packaging solution for what is going to be a dirt cheap upgrade to it's Leopard client base. For the amount of time and effort put into it, I'm sure that the $29 isn't remotely a case of Apple getting a huge financial return on the blood, sweat, and tears (and $ to their workers) invested in making this product which is a total spring cleaning and foundation for the future roadmap of the Mac OS going forward. The less money they spend on packaging, the greater potential they have to eek out "some" margins on the sale of the upgrade discs. That said, the more customers Apple switches up to Snow Leopard, the better for any future functionalities that Snow Leopard unlocks that previous OS'es lacked and helps drive the future/new tech within the company.

You wasted your time typing all of that. Apple has already announced that those who want to upgrade from Tiger will have to buy the $169 "Mac Box Set" which also includes iWork and iLife.
 
The image on the box is one of the wallpapers included with OSX Snow Leopard (Golden Master)..
 
Great OS lousy design

+1.

The image/design on the packaging is not compelling at all, like Leopard was.

This is 12 steps back.. Apple had been doing a great job at not going the expected route on their design, and this execution is novice at best. When they released tiger, they got it. And continued it through leapord embodying the sleek and advanced (trend setting even) design that people wanted to associate themselves with.. This release is a big step backward in brand and opens the door for them to be beaten on...

You got to fire on all cylinders in this game to stay ahead.

I pray this is fake. What a disappointment from a leader in brand management if not.
 
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Ok now I beleive it's not fake. Anyway I don't like it at all... I would much rather see the "X" version.
 
yes but one problem, safari is slow and crashes n or freezes up sometimes, not a good release overall It's awesome.
But I wish they left in Marble wanted to see what that would have looked like.
 
Presentation does help sell a product though.

Exactly. I dont know why people are bothering responding to this topic. Its the topic about the packaging.

If your in to graphic design work, you'll know what we are talking about. I HATE the people who say "if it an't broke dont fix it" or "as long as it works" thats pure BS and those people need a lfe
 
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