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I have to concur here. Leopard had all the shiny new features. Snow Leopard is... underwhelming. Of course, a year from now when all apps start building on top of the APIs that Snow Leopard gives developers, that's when it will really be amazing.

For now, probably the few new noticable features are that the Grid view for Stacks is actually worth using now and Microsoft Exchange support (assuming your Exchange server is Exchange Server 2007 with Update Rollup 4 installed).

And iTunes still isn't 64-bit. =/
Maybe because only iTunes 9 will be 64-bit, and it will be announced in September?
 
Here's hoping...

that 10.6.0 isn't nearly as buggered as 10.5.0 was (which was *worse* than 10.4.0 by my recollection). Seems like there's been a last minute rush to get Snow Leopard out the door well in advance of Windows 7. But this feels like one time when Apple can't do it's usual "Beta" release with the first product on sale, especially since Windows 7 is getting some very good reviews at it heads to GM.

For sure, I've already pre-ordered it at Amazon. And I suppose the good news is that if it really does ship this early Apple will have 10.6.1 out by the end of September if past activity is any indicator, which is when I originally calendared doing some initial upgrades on select Intel machines based on the rumored release date.

But given that Apple seems to have really hyped Snow Leopard as the flagship OS of the Intel chipset's future at Apple, the everyday users who simply buy and upgrade as soon as they receive the DVD really don't need any nasty surprises waiting for them.
 
Maybe online, but I've never seen it sold in-store.

Does your BestBuy not have an Apple section?! Pshaw... it's time they come into the now! A lot of BestBuys have been updated to include a rather chic area, marked by a large black wall with a glowing :apple: on it...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/482183/

And the pic in that thread had the white iMacs, so it's been a while...

And there is also Mac Software sold in these sections. :p
 

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That box/disc art is so ugly. The Leopard box was beautiful. All IMHO of course. Not that any of that matters if the OS itself is up to scratch.
 
That box/disc art is so ugly. The Leopard box was beautiful. All IMHO of course. Not that any of that matters if the OS itself is up to scratch.
Well the cover art on the website isn't distinct enough to be something different than Leopard. It could easily confuse people. After all, I expect you can still get Leopard for months so both versions could lie on the shelf.
 
Well the cover art on the website isn't distinct enough to be something different than Leopard. It could easily confuse people. After all, I expect you can still get Leopard for months so both versions could lie on the shelf.

thats because the cover art is still leopard, according the the image file title.
 
As said before, it's NOT Brazilian Portuguese...they still use the wrong spelling "optimizado" instead of "otimizado" (something that has already been eliminated with the latest ortographic reform as agreed by all Portuguese-speaking countries).

Its not a wrong spelling!!! With the new ortographic reform the agreement is that both "optimizado" , "otimizado", or other example such as: "acção" or "ação" are both CORRECT!!
 
looking forward to what the final outcome will be when this hits stores. I always thought "Snow" leopard was just a code name and that it would have been stripped for the retail naming convention. Not sure i equate snow leopard and streamlined in the same breath.
 
The viciousness of your response is not appreciated, and I feel a serious amount of hate emanating from you.

1) I don't understand what consciousness has to do with anything? Are you saying that demonstrable sentience or the recipients measurable recognition of 'benefit' is the only criteria of assessment as to what or who warrants any form of cultural-environmental-social assistance from MONEY...
2) Thus far Apple has done nothing with it's money
3) Thus far all corporations have used MONEY to expand market share and industrial explotation
4) Actually Bill Gates is the only techno-giant to really use his capital wealth to enhance the world
5) If the mega-corps who have all the money don't protect the earth from insatiable unstoppable capitalistic industrialization then nobody will.
6) If consumers of products from mega-corps don't ask for ethical responsibility then nobody will
7) I sincerely hope you don't represent a typical Apple owner or user.
8) Snow Leopard is an endangered species. Mankind is not and, I very much doubt, ever will be.

Let me say this. I despise your completely irrational, unobservant ilk. You're asking Apple and every other company to reverse the very process that enables you to write your ignorant response. Capitalistic industrialization has given us longer, healthier, happier, easier lives that any other system in the world. Care to juxtapose prior forms of rule to it: Feudal Europe, enslaving common folk to toil under a hot day's sun, producing little, feeding few, and living in squalor; Communistic Russia, enslaving common folk to each other, economically creating a race to the technological bottom; Socialist Germany, little needs to be said. If you want so badly to stop capitalism and industrialization, then USE CAPITALISM. STOP BUYING PRODUCTS. GIVE UP ADVANCED INDUSTRIALIZED TECHNOLOGY. LIVE IN TECHNOLOGICAL AND MEDICAL SQUALOR.
 
Whoops, someone fell into the "market share" hole again.

Apple sells a closed system, with an OS that is NOT licensed to everyone and their dog, and which is priced as a Premium product, effectively locking out a large portion of the market.

Which explains why Apple has a lock on on the $1000+ notebook share of the market.

The market isn't one big market. It has segments to it. It's a pyramid. You've got bottom-end, mid-level, and Premium, if those terms help you to understand the principle that the market is made up of divisions. Apple functions and makes an absolute killing at the Premium end.

Apple, as a matter of course and by design, will have lower market share overall. As stated by Jobs, Cook et al, they choose to lock themselves out of certain segments of the market. A Premium product manufacturer doesn't target certain income brackets - there will be consumers that will be absent from their target demographic.

This is what has Microsoft acting so defensive: Windows still has overwhelming unit sale market share, but it is now almost entirely at the low end of the market.

why does microsoft care what the hardware costs? they get the same amount and that's for the PC manufacturers to figure out.
 
Let me say this. I despise your completely irrational, unobservant ilk. You're asking Apple and every other company to reverse the very process that enables you to write your ignorant response. Capitalistic industrialization has given us longer, healthier, happier, easier lives that any other system in the world. Care to juxtapose prior forms of rule to it: Feral Europe, enslaving common folk to toil under a hot day's sun, producing little, feeding few, and living in squalor; Communistic Russia, enslaving common folk to each other, economically creating a race to the technological bottom; Socialist Germany, little needs to be said. If you want so badly to stop capitalism and industrialization, then USE CAPITALISM. STOP BUYING PRODUCTS. GIVE UP ADVANCED INDUSTRIALIZED TECHNOLOGY. LIVE IN TECHNOLOGICAL AND MEDICAL SQUALOR.

I don't think you know how the world works...

Capitalism is the absolute most corrupt system we've had. To it's core. Economic failures have proven it's instability. What has improved lives is DEMOCRACY. It has nothing to do with Capitalism. In fact, Feudal Europe, which you refer to as a bad thing, is the PINNACLE of Capitalism.

And yes, it should be EVERYONE'S responsibility to protect the environment. The consumer, the COMPANY, and the government.
 
why does microsoft care what the hardware costs? they get the same amount and that's for the PC manufacturers to figure out.

Not being associated with the Premium end of the market absolutely sucks for image and branding. And MS is in desperate need of mindshare.
 
Let me say this. I despise your completely irrational, unobservant ilk. You're asking Apple and every other company to reverse the very process that enables you to write your ignorant response. Capitalistic industrialization has given us longer, healthier, happier, easier lives that any other system in the world. Care to juxtapose prior forms of rule to it: Feral Europe, enslaving common folk to toil under a hot day's sun, producing little, feeding few, and living in squalor; Communistic Russia, enslaving common folk to each other, economically creating a race to the technological bottom; Socialist Germany, little needs to be said. If you want so badly to stop capitalism and industrialization, then USE CAPITALISM. STOP BUYING PRODUCTS. GIVE UP ADVANCED INDUSTRIALIZED TECHNOLOGY. LIVE IN TECHNOLOGICAL AND MEDICAL SQUALOR.

Not to mention folks like Larry Ellison have given away billions to improve the lives of millions. In fact, Larry did it first.

However, both don't give squat away without tax write offs.

Bill Gates will impress me when spends money in third world countries on Water distribution and purification solutions. Malaria nets are nice, but having clean water to change a region's entire ecosystem is far more dramatic in change.
 
Not being associated with the Premium end of the market absolutely sucks for image and branding. And MS is in desperate need of mindshare.

is mindshare an actual metric that equals revenue? I don't think it is,because even if their mindshare" is in desperate need, they are sitting at about 90% market share without even a hint of a drastic change. back to the original post, i still don't believe that snow leopard is what they are calling it, and i am not a fan of the box art. But, i probably will upgrade after the first update.
 
Its not a wrong spelling!!! With the new ortographic reform the agreement is that both "optimizado" , "otimizado", or other example such as: "acção" or "ação" are both CORRECT!!

What he said :)

btw acção/ação means action, just for the curious ones ;)

Everything about this box makes me think it's legit, but with that said... I wouldn't bet my money on it!
 
Front:

The most advanced OS in the world. Perfectly optimized.

Back:

Left column - Updated from the installation to its closing. The rest isn't readable.

Middle column - New core technologies.

Right column - Microsoft Exchange support.

Apple's marketing of Snow Leopard is both bad PR, especially for longtime customers, and risky.
I smell a class action lawsuit here.​

It's like a total kick in the balls to PowerPC users who paid $129 for Leopard and have late model G5s from the last 2-4 years, many of whom bought Leopard for $129 without knowing it was going to be a dead-end operating system that would only be BUG-FIXED & OPTIMIZED for Intel-ONLY.

It's like saying, "Hey we fixed all the problems in Leopard for Intel users, screw you PowerPC users, you suckers you! Oh but thanks for your $129. Now GET LOST!"

PS: I don't favor such lawsuits btw, as I rarely use my $9 coupons that make millions of dollars for sleazy lawyers, but I do think it's a good possibility considering Apple has broken a 25 year precedent in operating system support for its computers and in effect, prematurely ended the possibility of giving some of the Snow Leopard bug fixes and optimizations to PowerPC users, most of which paid the same $129 for Leopard.
 
Apple's marketing of Snow Leopard is both bad PR, especially for longtime customers, and risky.
I smell a class action lawsuit here.​

It's like a total kick in the balls to PowerPC users who paid $129 for Leopard and have late model G5s from the last 2-4 years, many of whom bought Leopard for $129 without knowing it was going to be a dead-end operating system that would only be BUG-FIXED & OPTIMIZED for Intel-ONLY.

How did Snow Leopard's marketing turn into a Leopard problem for PowerPC users ? If that's the basis of your class-action, you won't even get as far as finding an attorney, much less getting class-action status.
 
Apple's marketing of Snow Leopard is both bad PR, especially for longtime customers, and risky.
I smell a class action lawsuit here.​

It's like a total kick in the balls to PowerPC users who paid $129 for Leopard and have late model G5s from the last 2-4 years, many of whom bought Leopard for $129 without knowing it was going to be a dead-end operating system that would only be BUG-FIXED & OPTIMIZED for Intel-ONLY.

The last G5 model Mac was released in 2005. That's 4 years of support for a machine that is now slower than a modern Mac Mini. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Personally I don't see the problem sticking with Leopard on these PPC machines. It's a good OS. Most of the big architectural changes in SL such as GrandCentral and OpenCL require modern hardware anyway. If there were a large amount of UI changes and enhancements I would have more sympathy for the PPC folks but you're not actually missing out on anything your hardware could take advantage of.
 
Apple's marketing of Snow Leopard is both bad PR, especially for longtime customers, and risky.
I smell a class action lawsuit here.​

It's like a total kick in the balls to PowerPC users who paid $129 for Leopard and have late model G5s from the last 2-4 years, many of whom bought Leopard for $129 without knowing it was going to be a dead-end operating system that would only be BUG-FIXED & OPTIMIZED for Intel-ONLY.

It's like saying, "Hey we fixed all the problems in Leopard for Intel users, screw you PowerPC users, you suckers you! Oh but thanks for your $129. Now GET LOST!"

PS: I don't favor such lawsuits btw, as I rarely use my $9 coupons that make millions of dollars for sleazy lawyers, but I do think it's a good possibility considering Apple has broken a 25 year precedent in operating system support for its computers and in effect, prematurely ended the possibility of giving some of the Snow Leopard bug fixes and optimizations to PowerPC users, most of which paid the same $129 for Leopard.

Do me a favour open hyperspace window and fly away to the Pegasus galaxy.
 
It's like saying, "Hey we fixed all the problems in Leopard for Intel users, screw you PowerPC users, you suckers you! Oh but thanks for your $129. Now GET LOST!"

Fixing problems is not the same as introducing new features and optimizing existing code, especially when some of those optimizations are happening only because older hardware is being left off the compatibility list. And Apple has a history of continuing to issue fixes and security updates for older versions of OS X even when newer ones come out. (Didn't we just see a security update for Tiger?)

I think PPC users have little to nothing to complain about. I own two PPC Macs myself and I have no qualm with this. It's been a good ride but all things come to an end. And it's not like all those PPC machines out there just fail to function anymore once SL comes out. My iBook G4 and iMac G4 will continue to be good machines even as my newer iMac leaves them behind. What's the big deal?
 
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