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You have describe HyperZboy with stunning precision I must admit.
If people don't realise that OpenCL doesn't work on their Mac, they'd be hard press to notice it. OpenCL is an API, it's a developer tool. It permits writing general purpose code so that it runs on the 3D graphics accelerator, exactly like CUDA does right now on nVidia cards. Do you see many people crying CUDA doesn't work on ATI cards or being somehow left behind because of it ?
The fact is, the OpenCL driver will probably be written in a way that if OpenCL calls are made by an application on a system without a compatible graphics adapter, it will simply run on the CPU like it normally would have if the developer didn't have access to OpenCL in the first place.
It's going to be transparent to the user. They won't know, won't care.
The only thing you've proven is that it was always possible to install a new version of MacOS on 6-7 year old Macs which was my original point!
SCORE!
It was still doable easily, you make it sound complicated, geesh!
I installed TIGER on a PowerMac 7500 AND a PowerMac 8500!
These are all useless arguments to prove Apple operating systems didn't historically work on 6-7 year old machines for 25 years. But if you want to agree it breaks a 15 year Apple old precedent instead, well there's your cookie.
The only thing you've proven is that it was always possible to install a new version of MacOS on 6-7 year old Macs which was my original point!
SCORE!
It was still doable easily, you make it sound complicated, geesh!
I installed TIGER on a PowerMac 7500 AND a PowerMac 8500!
These are all useless arguments to prove Apple operating systems didn't historically work on 6-7 year old machines for 25 years. But if you want to agree it breaks a 15 year Apple old precedent instead, well there's your cookie.
Just get a new machine mate.
Wait, removing the m68k CPU to install a PPC upgrade card and then having to dig around the Internet for some obscure 3rd party application and manually editing files is "easily doable" ?
Like in the realm of "completely accessible to the average user" doable ?
D.E.L.U.S.I.O.N.A.L.
If this was so easy, why don't you get to work on PPC to Intel upgrade cards so people with G5s can install SL instead of whining here ? Or you could replace the parts that need replacing in order to upgrade your G5 to a Intel processor. Should be easily doable by your standards.
Offtopic!
If you guys want to talk about PPC being phased out/switching to windows/bashing snow leopard, please do it on another tread! This topic is on the artwork. So unless you have something to say about the box art, please, stop using this tread!
Thanks
I understand what you are saying. When I say refinement and Aqua out, I really mean omitting the blue Aqua scroll bars and buttons. They are immensely out of place now with the way they have evolved the UI to the iTunes and iLife look. There are MANY people that agree with me, and we all argued the same thing back when Leopard was coming out. Yet Apple left them in all mismatched from everything else. The UI is a big hodge podge mess of like 5 or 6 different styles now!
And this after Steve got up and professed that Leopard would "UNIFY" the UI lol. So much for that! Ya they got rid of the brushed metal, but also have introduced about 3 or 4 new styles that made it even more mismatched than before! I still expect this change in 10.7, and for all you know Apple could make 10.7 OS 11. So you can't absolutely guarantee me anything with your speculation. They also might introduce a new or refined UI and still call it 10.7 for recognition and branding reasons. Fact is, we don't know. But I am certain that Apple intends on taking advantage of the new technologies in Snow Leopard in every aspect, including evolving the UI.
A few questions:
1) How does the release of Snow Leopard make Leopard worse?
2) Did people purchase Leopard for $129 believing it was a faulty product and hoping Apple would fix it for them some day at no cost?
3) Was backward compatibility with PowerPC one of the 'problems' removed by Apple to make Snow Leopard perform better? And if so, how do you expect Apple to give this new optimization to PowerPC users?
I think the box art is fine.
What I am not impressed with, is the medium that are releasing SL on.
A disc? Seriously?
Every system that Snow Leopard is compatible with has a USB port.
Why are they not releasing SL on a USB? Would be much faster install.
Sure it would cost Apple a little more, but this is APPLE we are talking about. They are suppose to be ahead of the game. Making leaps and bounds. Anyone feeling that Apple has been resting on their laurels?
What I am not impressed with, is the medium that are releasing SL on.
A disc? Seriously?
Every system that Snow Leopard is compatible with has a USB port.
Why are they not releasing SL on a USB? Would be much faster install.
Sure it would cost Apple a little more, but this is APPLE we are talking about. They are suppose to be ahead of the game. Making leaps and bounds. Anyone feeling that Apple has been resting on their laurels?
I'm sorry. I believe with my sarcasm I caused you to misunderstand my point.
I DO feel bad for those of us (my iMac 7,1 is not even fully capable) not able to benefit (fully or at all) from SL.
My point was *LTD* was was being exceptionally pointed in his remarks, perhaps even excessively.
Offtopic!
If you guys want to talk about PPC being phased out/switching to windows/bashing snow leopard, please do it on another tread!
This is MacRumors. Almost every thread morphs into the PPC/Intel sniping contest.
C'mon, you're making a fool of yourself now. You know full well PowerPC upgrades were easy back then, and you know full well there are no INTEL upgrade cards for PowerPC Macs so Leopard is a certain dead-end unlike in previous processor changes with Macs going back 25 years.
And if you don't know the above, you're just BSing everyone here for sport.
There's just no disputing this, yet people continue to. Geez.
And This topic is about Snow Leopard, so its LACK of PowerPC support is a valid topic.
Finally, the personal attacks need to stop. Grow up.
Source: http://lowendmac.com/quadra/power-mac-cpu-upgrade.html
Look, if it makes you happy just buy an intel mainboard und put it in your power mac. That's about the same as putting an unsupported CPU card in an 680xx Mac. Looks as if you'd be fully satified then.
New Feature???
A little fresh air for this thread, to pause all the arguing for a bit.
I found this while playing around in the latest build of SL. Is it new or has it always been there?
http://i31.tinypic.com/x5eag9.jpg
A little fresh air for this thread, to pause all the arguing for a bit.
I found this while playing around in the latest build of SL. Is it new or has it always been there?
http://i31.tinypic.com/x5eag9.jpg
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1) It just makes Leopard a DEAD-END for many Mac users without them knowing that when they paid $129 and its still not as stable as TIGER and is still slower than Tiger on PowerPC Macs. It's not like other people haven't posted this. Go to Apple Discussions if you think I'm wrong.
2) Many people purchased Leopard not thinking it was a dead-end or that it would end up buggier than TIGER or that PowerPC support would be discontinued when Apple FIXED Leopard with SNOW LEOPARD which is now BUG-FIXED and OPTIMIZED!
3) G5s are 64bit and could easily run Snow Leopard, but not all of its features, but neither can most INTEL Macs!
Apple has tons of cash in the bank.
So what's the reason for discontinuing operating support for 2-3 year old Macs again and break a 25 year precedent?
So what's the reason for discontinuing operating support for 2-3 year old Macs again and break a 25 year precedent?
Yes, your Imac G4 can run 10.5 Leopard easily.
Contact me if you want help in doing so.
Although, I'll warn you, its buggier than TIGER and MUCH slower on such a Mac.
I know this as I have it running on a Quicksilver G4, the oldest supported Mac for Leopard.
So yes, its true, Leopard & Tiger supported 6-7 year old Macs.
Snow Leopard only supports Macs within the last 2-3 years.
To make more money for them and their shareholders.
They're a publicly owned company, this is where their priorities lie.
Were you this annoyed when your PowerMac G4 couldn't run Leopard?
At least someone here finally got it.
m68k were in the same bind PowerPC users are now. Sell your machine or take out that screw driver, you've got hardware to upgrade.
Or as annoyed when his Powerbook 280c wouldn't run OS 8.5... or as annoyed when his 68030 based computer wouldn't run OS 8.1...
Apple killed the PPC, what 4 years ago, when Tiger was the current OS? By now even most major 3rd party companies have stopped developing PPC compatible s/w. If your PPC Mac works for you, great, but it's unrealistic to think Apple would or should waste its resources to ensure OS parity with the Intel machines.
If you want the latest and greatest you have to pay to play. That is how it works with all technology hardware. Heck, I've gone though 4 A/V receivers in the past 10 years because of the constantly changing A/V connectors.
If you want the latest and greatest you have to pay to play. That is how it works with all technology hardware. Heck, I've gone though 4 A/V receivers in the past 10 years because of the constantly changing A/V connectors.
All of my PowerMac G4s run Leopard.
What was your point again?
PS: I have Leopard running on everything from a Sawtooth to an MDD G4, plus several G5s, and I have 1 INTEL Mac.
Although my only complaint about Snow Leopard is really the G5s, obviously the G4s have no ability to run something like Snow Leopard.