Here's what customers can do to reduce piracy: Buy the game instead of stealing it!
All the things you say do not one thing against piracy. They just increase the cost and reduce the income from those who pay. Pirates are going to steal anyway.
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Piracy Cripples iOS Game in Less than a Week
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Here's what customers can do to reduce piracy: Buy the game instead of stealing it!
All the things you say do not one thing against piracy. They just increase the cost and reduce the income from those who pay. Pirates are going to steal anyway.
I am not defending piracy, but this is not a fair comparison. "The store" likely has a return policy which would prevent this scenario in the first place. If he didn't like the headphones, he could get a refund. The same can't be said for software. I fully understand why software cannot be returned, but don't demonize one person's logical and rational use of the tools available to him to avoid a capitalist quicksand trap, just because others abuse the ***** out of the same tools.
If you are using the bandwidth on their servers without purchasing a license for the game then you are stealing bandwidth.
You amoralists make me sick. Do you expect to eat for free? Do you expect lodging for free? Do you expect to be paid for your own work?
If you deserve to be paid a wage then what gives you the right to take something for free?
I think this is the main benefit to a freemium game: piracy is much more difficult, because you have to pay to play.
Rather than quoting everyone on here and saying the same thing, I'll just say it once. If developers offered a free version of their software, or if Apple ever implements game samples like they did with iBooks, it would help to alleviate a good amount of piracy--at least I think so.
you should read the rest of his post.
he's giving you a first person view of the subject.
Pirating a $5 game? There goes the argument this is economically motivated...
That right! You'll lose money on every copy but make it up on volume!
In summary:
1) reduce the price
2-4) make it cost more
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If they're stealing a $4.99 game they can click to download, I'm pretty convinced they'd steal a free one. Price might play a role for $50 games, and price/inconvenience certainly played a role in music piracy, but in this particular case I think we've found the asymptotic limit where people do it just because they can.
That right! You'll lose money on every copy but make it up on volume!
In summary:
1) reduce the price
2-4) make it cost more
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If they're stealing a $4.99 game they can click to download, I'm pretty convinced they'd steal a free one. Price might play a role for $50 games, and price/inconvenience certainly played a role in music piracy, but in this particular case I think we've found the asymptotic limit where people do it just because they can.
One more thing not mentioned is that piracy has been proven to jumpstart sales, especially for things that might not be otherwise seen to all eyes in the world. since pirating I have rekindled a love affair with so many old game system roms, comic books and 360 games that I now have dumped $1,000's of dollars into to have the real thing. Piracy is a miniscule problem at best, worst case, some *******s on a forum is getting mad at piracy because he doesnt have access to all the websites we do so they feel the need to come on here and condone it over and over.. get over yourselves you whiny little *****.. Piracy helps software companies immensely
I didn't say that "piracy" wasn't wrong. I said that it wasn't theft (which is what many people in this thread - maybe not you - have tried to claim).
Some things are "more wrong" than others and, I'm sorry, but depriving someone of some hypothetical profit that they might have made (if only more people had bought their software) may be wrong but is is just not in the same league as actually taking away someone's money or property.
"How wrong" is important in determining proportionate punishments and how much intrusion into people's lives - not to mention police and court resources - can be justified to enforce it.
That would be too sensible. It's far easier to just bash somebody that doesn't agree with your views.
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I make you sick?
No. I don't expect to eat for free. That's why I work as a software developer (both employed AND on my own) while I'm getting ready to tackle my PhD. If you looked at my previous posts in this thread - you'll see my own take on it, after selling my OWN software.
But no, as above it's easier to just bash.
Please stop splitting hairs you're making yourself look stupid.
Piracy IS THEFT PERIOD!
Say you're a photographer, and you take a lot of photos, and I download them from your site and use them for my graphic design work for free. Thats theft.
Say I go to the movie theater and sneak in without paying and watch a movie. Its free for the theater right since the movie is just a copy? Wrong. Its theft of services.
What about a public pool where you pay $10 to get in? The pool is already there so whats it hurt if you swim for free? Again, theft of services.
People deserve to get paid for their work and there is not one single valid argument you can make to counter that.
As a software dev, I estimate that ~10% of my revenue (in support tickets) comes from pirated versions, and I've made over £10k in sales converting pirated to non pirated through a nicely placed banner/message.
If piracy didn't exist/I had the pirated versions removed, that's alot of lost revenue.
Basically - ripping a CD (or taping an LP) = making an unauthorised copy. End of. Not that anybody in their right mind would ever try to enforce that unless someone were distributing copies, but it makes it rather difficult to take an absolutist view of the law.
There was some talk a few years about fixing it, but no action AFAIK.
Your argument is all well and good except for the point that if you're a thief, you likely aren't being charged with theft either-- you're being charged with larceny, or burglary, or armed robbery, or... Theft is a generic term for taking something of value that doesn't belong to you.
While I agree there is precious little information to judge this situation by, I think the discussion has long since left the particulars of Battle Dungeon and is now a discussion about piracy in general.
I'm not the one making myself look stupid, it is not theft. From the Theft Act, 1968:
Funny you should say amoral - can't really deal with this issue without getting into philosophy. This postmodern culture we live in has little value for morals. "What's right for you, isn't right for me." "Who's to say what's right or wrong?" There are no absolutes... absolutely no absolutes.
I quit pirating years ago. Sad thing is that when you pirate a movie, you just hit play and you see the movie. When you rent a blu-ray from redbox, you have to skip through all the previews, advertisements, and fbi warnings to get to the movie.
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So if I borrow your car without asking you, it's not grand theft auto if I intended to return it?
Either way, you are arguing semantics. Depriving someone of their property rights is theft per common law.
Here is a good explanation:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=9183731&common+law+theft#post9183731
I can only speak for myself of course but I have a jailbroken phone and have never pirated anything. I mostly jailbroke because I was bored (and now I really like some of the jailbroken apps, apps I paid for btw). Granted there are plenty jailbreaking for piracy but not everyone.
Sorry but you are a hypocrite. If you are "paid" to develop software as an employee then you should understand how much it "costs" to write software and "value" the work of others enough to pay for it if you obtain it or simply leave it alone if don't. Nobody is holding a gun to your head to play the game. If you eat food then you pay for it so why is the software, music, movie someone else produces be something you can take for free without consent?
I have been employed as a software developer for over a decade and I am also branching out into iOS on my own. I have also sung in live performances so I understand how hard it is to both write software and create a musical performance. Because of this, I don't pirate software, music, tv shows or movies. I value the work of others as an responsible adult should.
Don't be a digital hoarder because that is what pirates are. They take more than then could ever possibly need or use.
BTW. I used to jailbreak back in the old days before things like Installous existed and I even created some icon themes for winterboard. I stopped jailbreaking as soon as things like backgrounds became customizable. Eventually ringtones and alert tones were also customizable removing any last temptation to jailbreak. At that point, the risks outweighed the gains for me.
I wonder how many people here have say maybe... copied a recipe from a friends cookbook. you didnt buy that book, he/she did.. you copied that information from that book without buying the intellectual rights to it.
so lets argue this and see where it gets you "piracy is theft" lunatics.
so lets argue this and see where it gets you "piracy is theft" lunatics.