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That's actually the main reason why I've never owned an Android phone. Although I've been tempted by the S7, I just don't trust Google with my data. I feel more safe and 'secure' with Apple and trust them way more with my stuff. I'd feel uncomfortable on Android with that lurking at the back of my mind every time I use it. I'd just feel like I'm constantly being spied upon.
You are being spied upon, it's not just google it's all of them one degree or another. I guess at this point apple is least of the bad in my opinion but I firmly believe privacy as it relates to technology is just an illusion.
 
Exactly how much money do these manufacturers get from the Carriers to make it exclusive?

Windows Lumia 1020: exclusive to AT&T = Tanked

Amazon Fire Phone: exclusive to AT&T= Tanked

Are the couple of $ millions they get from the carriers really worth cutting out 3/4 of all phone purchasers?

I'm no fan of Samsung, but at least they managed to figure THAT out ...
Apple the first couple of years exclusive to ATT and they certainly did not tank.
 
If you're properly into google services I bet its a great phone.

Like the iPhone if you're embedded with Apple Services.

The phones are on par, the OS is on par, the prices are on par, the services on google are way better. What's next? Apple has been lagging on all fronts for way too long. They can't keep up and definitely need something new.
 
It appears that the iPhone used flash and the Pixel didn't. You can see the shadows from the flash. That seems like somebody screwed up and didn't turn the flash off on the iPhone. That also makes the pictures not very comparable.
The Pixel did use a flash. You can see the reflections of the flash off of the back of the model's retina, which creates red eye.
 
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I think this is the first time Apple has real competition to the iPhone.

iPhone is successful because Apple is a services company. We all like to think of Apple as a software/hardware company but the real invisible force that keeps the company going are services. Until now, only hardware companies have tried to face off against the iPhone and, while they may have had good products on paper, they lacked the services to support the product.

This time it's different however. Google is also a services company—an arguably better one than Apple. And now they've built hardware. The biggest hurdle google faces is convincing andoird users who are used to buying cheap smartphones to pay a premium for the pixel.

Time will tell how this goes but google has a huge opportunity to take a large piece of the pie from Apple. Apple, on their part, can't be complacent or else they risk fading into irrelevance, just like blackberry.

I wouldn't agree with your basic premise at all. Apple is successful because they figured out first that people are willing to pay for good looking, well-built hardware. Then they combined that idea with a great operating system. At this point it's a race between Apple figuring out services and Google figuring out hardware (and selling/marketing hardware).
 
The timing of the release of these phones is uncanny, considering Samsung's woes. Could it have been sabotage? Buried lines of code in Android that initiated a self-destruct sequence in Note 7 phones? I'm joking of course, but the timing is incredible.
 
Total Fandroid. In the first 2 minutes he has 2 subtle swipes at iPhones.

"It has a finger print sensor on the back - where I prefer it - unless it's lying on a table"
No one would dare put it on the front and give Android a home button for fear of a law suit

"It has a headphone jack, of course!"
It's not waterproof either is it?
 
It's funny to see the just released 'mighty iphone' taking the back seat already. Not to mention googles superb services and unlimited photo storage. The next waves of new android phones are just around the corner while we have to wait till next September for the 'really advanced iphone'. I think Apple lost this race. Google pace of innovation is something Apple can't match. Google is also more consumer aware by giving buyers unlimited photo storage. The coming time will be very interesting. The new MacBook pro will probably exactly what is discussed on rumorsites.

Funny that Apple always brags that it's the only company on earth to integrate their software and services seamlessly. That same company is struggling to deliver what Google (which Apple always told it hasn't the experience building hard-, software like Apple) what Google at a high pace does. Also funny that the details of google Pixel weren't leaked to rumor sites, while the dull iPhone 7 was detailed since May.

I wonder what company Apple inc. really is. Because it isn't a leading computer company anymore, it's not a leading phone company anymore, it's not the most innovative company anymore. Please Tim Cook enlighten us with your vision of apple's future.

Products from other companies are already out of the pipeline and there is coming more. What's the hiccup at apple's?
 
It's funny to see the just released 'mighty iphone' taking the back seat already. Not to mention googles superb services and unlimited photo storage. The next waves of new android phones are just around the corner while we have to wait till next September for the 'really advanced iphone'. I think Apple lost this race. Google pace of innovation is something Apple can't match. Google is also more consumer aware by giving buyers unlimited photo storage. The coming time will be very interesting. The new MacBook pro will probably exactly what is discussed on rumorsites.

Funny that Apple always brags that it's the only company on earth to integrate their software and services seamlessly. That same company is struggling to deliver what Google (which Apple always told it hasn't the experience building hard-, software like Apple) what Google at a high pace does. Also funny that the details of google Pixel weren't leaked to rumor sites, while the dull iPhone 7 was detailed since May.

I wonder what company Apple inc. really is. Because it isn't a leading computer company anymore, it's not a leading phone company anymore, it's not the most innovative company anymore. Please Tim Cook enlighten us with your vision of apple's future.

Products from other companies are already out of the pipeline and there is coming more. What's the hiccup at apple's?

It was leaked, just not for as long. Way more incentive $$$ wise to leak Apple stuff than other manufacturers.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/19/non-blurry-photos-google-pixel-pixel-xl-leak/
 
Total Fandroid. In the first 2 minutes he has 2 subtle swipes at iPhones.

"It has a finger print sensor on the back - where I prefer it - unless it's lying on a table"
No one would dare put it on the front and give Android a home button for fear of a law suit

"It has a headphone jack, of course!"
It's not waterproof either is it?

It isn't waterproof. Swipes at the iPhone? More like personal preference, but whatever floats your narrative.
 
It still has a headphone jack. Pffft. What backwards technology. Most well add a floppy disk drive to it as well. Am I right???
 
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Why would someone want to buy a phone which tries so hard to be like another phone?

This phone says "Yeah Apple has great ideas so we copied them right down to the antenna bands".

Well if Apple has great ideas I'd rather buy Apple's 2017 phone and benefit from their ideas directly, rather than wait a year for Google's 2018 response.
Lol you know the metal unibody with antenna lines was first made by HTC right? The same company that manufactured the pixel. But of course you wouldn't know this because Apple invented the wheel.
 
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LOL on that article. First they ding the Nexus for a feature that neither the Nexus nor iPhones have, then they ding it for features the iPhone has but are worthless like a "wide color display" (which is strange considering they haven't even tested the Nexus's gamut so they're just guessing its screen gamut wont match the iPhone) and even more worthless stuff like haptic feedback and 3DTouch.

Since that's all you got from reading that article, and still think MacRumors has presented you with the facts, I don't think I can help you.
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Right, and your quoting an article form AppleInsider.. Thats not going to be biased is it?!

:rolleyes:

AppleInsider is strong with the RDF.
I can't say if AppleInsider is more or less biased in general, I honestly have no idea, but I think the article completely shreds the Pixel Phone, but go buy it if you prefer it, by all means.
 
The Pixel did use a flash. You can see the reflections of the flash off of the back of the model's retina, which creates red eye.
Hmmm could be right. That would seem to mean the Pixel is using a much longer shutter speed. I'm curious how this will translate to real world pics.
 
I can't say if AppleInsider is more or less biased in general, I honestly have no idea, but I think the article completely shreds the Pixel Phone, but go buy it if you prefer it, by all means.

Read a few more articles, especially the commentary, you'll see they are heavily bias.

AppleInsider is the last place I'd go for a product comparison, or review. Engage, Verge etc are far better balanced.
 
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"Best performance on Android..."

No, it's not faster than OP3, already saw a video comparing.

There's more to performance than raw speed. OP3 has to many compromises.
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None of the Pixel reviews seem to mention that it is actually slower than the iPhone SE.

Google’s phone can’t even top the performance of the iPhone 6s and iPhone SE.

The first benchmarks for the Pixel and Pixel XL on Geekbench 4 show the phones (which are the same on the inside) scored around 4,100 for multicore performance and around 1,580 for single core. By comparison, the iPhone 7 hit a score of 5,600 for multicore performance and earned a single-core score of 3,430. The iPhone 6s got a multicore score of 4,106 and a single-core score of 2,508.

Sounds like yet more school playground willy waving to me. :rolleyes:
 
Because one spends the time to find out what works, the other just looks at what the other did.

Totally agree!

Apple always sits back and let the competitors try out new stuff. And then copy the basics of the idea ("does it right" in Apple-speak) that seems to work best.

Apple has rarely taken a chance on launching actual new features without someone else testing out the waters first. It is a smart strategy, probably saves them billions through the years.
 
Since that's all you got from reading that article, and still think MacRumors has presented you with the facts, I don't think I can help you.
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I can't say if AppleInsider is more or less biased in general, I honestly have no idea, but I think the article completely shreds the Pixel Phone, but go buy it if you prefer it, by all means.

When someone starts a post by writing "You apple fanboys" then my expectation for useful information to follow is rather low.
 
The time has come for Apple to replace Google as the default option for Search in iOS. Ballpark, this distribution accounts for 20-25% of Google's total US business, which if by far its most profitable GEO. It would be a devastating impact to Google financials and data collection scheme

But, still keep it as an option for those who really want it (same as they currently do for Bing)

I have been using DuckDuckGo for the past year. It is great. I recommend trying it if you have not. I could see a future where Apple buys it, rebrands as Apple Search.
I've been saying something similar for a while now...."iSearch" haha
 
This reviewer lost all credibility with me when they wrote this: "This is Google's first phone, and for a first effort it is remarkably good. By almost every metric I can think of -- speed, power, camera, smart assistant, you name it -- it matches or exceeds the best phones available on the market today." Really? Google's first phone? You ignore their previous flops?
The Nexus phones were primarily aimed towards developers. They were never meant to be mass market big sellers and not marketed as such either.

The Pixel phones are the first Google phones where they actually want to sell as many as they can - and make money from it, which was not a priority (hence the great price for what you got) with the Nexus phones where the production was cut short long before the market was satisfied.
 
If Apple made it even the slightest bit difficult for me to use Google as the default search engine I would strongly consider leaving the platform. Google is the best search engine by far, it's not even close, and search is such a basic and necessary function of modern computing. I'm not going to massively handicap my user experience just because Apple is in a spat with Google.
Google Search? What is that?
 
"An iPhone running Android is just what we've been waiting for"

Agreed. I love the iPhone but it annoyed me to no end that it wouldn't send all my data over to Google. That problem has been solved now. Finally.
 
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