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God it looks so stupid with the giant bezels and software buttons. You can almost justify it on the iPhone since it has the button, and for the sake of symmetry, but it looks so bad with the blank uneven bezel.

It looks equally hideous on the iPhone.
 
I thought the point of android was to be cheap. Not try to be more like the iPhone

Why would you assume that? If nothing else it's somewhat arrogant and simply not true. Android is an operating system BTW with more functionality and innovation than iOS. Most unbiased industry reviewers will happily attest to that fact.
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It looks equally hideous on the iPhone.

Well I have reviewed one today and believe me when placed side by side with the iPhone it was the iPhone that look cheap not the Pixel.
[doublepost=1477001368][/doublepost]You know Google have hit a home run with the Pixel when iPhone owners start dashing round like headless chickens seeking out any negative remarks/reviews they can possibly find against the opposition. :)
 
There are plenty of expensive, premium Android phones. I'm not really sure theres a specific point to Android other than being a alternative OS for phones, but I think part of the point of Android is so that users can buy a cheap phone or an expensive phone but still be on the same platform. You could compare Android to Windows. You chose the hardware you want, but the platform remains the same.
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"Most want an apple product" I beg to differ. Plenty of people want an iPhone, but to say most is an over exaggeration.

"there are many users that prefer android, but compared to # of users (around the world) that want an iPhone, it is minuscule" I'm pretty sure theres a substantial number of people who want and prefer Android phones over iPhones.

Honestly your whole paragraph makes it sound like iPhones are the most coveted devices on the planet but nobody can afford them. Hate to burst your bubble, but brands like LG, Samsung, and HTC all make phones that cost the same as an iPhone, especially on contract. If people truly wanted iPhones to the degree you say they do, then nobody would buy these premium level Android phones, yet these premium Android phones are some of the best selling handsets in the market.

Also, if your assertion that most of the world wants an iPhone, but can't afford one, was true, you would think Apple would re-evaluate their strategy.

iPhones aren't special. Of all the people I know theres an almost even split of iPhone and Android users.

I visit many countries because of work over the past near 10 years. Many people still cannot afford an iPhone, you're implying that I'm only talking about developed countries, which statistics definitely doesn't discriminate (you know the charts that show overall sales of androids vs iPhones)

The majority of statistics of Android devices being sold are cheap phones getting sold in developing countries. Even in China most cannot afford the latest iOS device without some how effecting their standard of living. I want to see where you get the statistics that these "premium" Android devices make up most of the market.

Xaomi's, Huawei's, Samsung, LG, all make affordable android devices. I don't see everyone with a S7/S7 Edge, if they do they are mostly older devices.

Most as in the 2 Billion + people in India & China? yeah I'd say thats most + the rest of the western world and other developing countries. I have yet to seen majority of AVERAGE citizens in these countries have the latest Galaxy or iPhone.



I see a lot of android users in Europe by choice, but still Apple are still the favorites in the region, we don't have to mention the US. Everything needs to be taken into context, traveling because of work really opens your minds to things. But to say that most people want an iPhone is far from just a speculation because most simply cannot afford it and if they do they most likely want an iPhone.


The fact that the there is basically one company that makes for one OS and takes a huge chunk of mobile sales should be taken into consideration. I mean Xaomi hardly makes any profit to make it affordable and make sales, which is why most in china decided to go with the Xaomi's instead of saving up for what ever amount of time and work just to get the latest iPhone.
 
[doublepost=1477001368][/doublepost]You know Google have hit a home run with the Pixel when iPhone owners start dashing round like headless chickens seeking out any negative remarks/reviews they can possibly find against the opposition. :)

More like forgotten like every google phone.
 
You're joking right? The Verge, which has consistently rated iPhones (and most other Apple Products) higher than any other manufacturer or ecosystem, said the camera is on par, possibly better (depending on who you ask) with the iPhone 7.





Source:http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/18/13304090/google-pixel-phone-review-pixel-xl
Why would I be joking? And you're not addressing the point about showing the actual photos for you to see, by linking to yet another review which goes against what your own eyes can see?

When you argue that we should disregard our own eyes you are simply telling us that you'll believe any authority over your own eyes, and that's fine with me.
I'm just linking to Daniels debunking so that people can get the other side of the story, and then people can make up their own minds.
 
Let's call it what it is shall we, a new HTC phone with a clean Android build. An android build that, due to the new assistant constantly monitors everything you do so that the assistant works better and google can scoop up even more usage metrics. It's their ultimate wet dream.

Also, because it's made by HTC it's covered by the Apple HTC patent licensing so it can look a hell of a lot like an iPhone but not end up with a court case, smart move by Google. Maybe the high price is to cover the license payments to Apple?
 
Also, because it's made by HTC it's covered by the Apple HTC patent licensing so it can look a hell of a lot like an iPhone but not end up with a court case, smart move by Google.

As far as looks go:

HTC's cross licensing with Apple does not include design patents, nor anything functional that visually looks like a similar Apple functionality (for example, HTC can use slide to unlock, but it cannot visually look the same).

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(Which is also why, besides HTC doing it first by a year, it's ignorant when some try to say that HTC copied the iPhone antenna insulator lines. Apple could've stopped them if they had, but it was clearly the other way around. The above exclusion does not apply to Apple using HTC designs.)

Outside of looks, the HTC cross license for functional patents could help some. But any infringements in Android itself are still on Google, not HTC. So it might be setting things up for a direct Apple v. Google showdown, if Apple wishes.
 
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I see a lot of android users in Europe by choice, but still Apple are still the favourites in the region, we don't have to mention the US. Everything needs to be taken into context, traveling because of work really opens your minds to things. But to say that most people want an iPhone is far from just a speculation because most simply cannot afford it and if they do they most likely want an iPhone.

You say people wanting the iPhone more than Android is not 'just speculation' then a few words further on in the same sentence that's exactly what you are doing i.e. 'speculating' with the phrase and if they do they most likely want an iPhone. :rolleyes:

BTW Apple are not the favourites of Europe either or if you know different please provide source for your assertion.
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Let's call it what it is shall we, a new HTC phone with a clean Android build. An android build that, due to the new assistant constantly monitors everything you do so that the assistant works better and google can scoop up even more usage metrics. It's their ultimate wet dream.

Hmm! interesting take you have on the Pixel being a HTC. Let's flesh out your argument a little. Can we therefore call the iPhone a Foxconn phone running on iOS with an Apple logo?
 
You say people wanting the iPhone more than Android is not 'just speculation' then a few words further on in the same sentence that's exactly what you are doing i.e. 'speculating' with the phrase and if they do they most likely want an iPhone. :rolleyes:

BTW Apple are not the favourites of Europe either or if you know different please provide source for your assertion.
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Hmm! interesting take you have on the Pixel being a HTC. Let's flesh out your argument a little. Can we therefore call the iPhone a Foxconn phone running on iOS with an Apple logo?


did you just not read my post? My source? I'm assuming my source is my multiple trips to UK, Italy, Germany, France, and my friends there?


I obviously said a lot of people prefer android but majority I've met still have an iPhone. Most of my friends in frankfurt have an android, but those are MY friends. When I'm at a pub or cafe I still see a sea of iPhones. (was just in frankfurt couple days ago, now I'm in Chennai)
 
"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this,"

Steve Jobs.
Awesome...but can he really do anything at this point? Competition is good. Stolen tech or not, not one company should rule over all.
 
Played around with both sizes of the Pixel today.


Overall I was unimpressed (coming from a Iphone).

It's a great android phone though, and it has some cool things like the textured power button which is neat. Though the area where the glass covered the camera looked weird to me.

Comparing it to the iPhone though
- both in design and use, there's still a good margin left.
 
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did you just not read my post? My source? I'm assuming my source is my multiple trips to UK, Italy, Germany, France, and my friends there?


I obviously said a lot of people prefer android but majority I've met still have an iPhone. Most of my friends in frankfurt have an android, but those are MY friends. When I'm at a pub or cafe I still see a sea of iPhones. (was just in frankfurt couple days ago, now I'm in Chennai)

So you're basing your research on you and your friends - plausible?
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Played around with both sizes of the Pixel today.


Overall I was unimpressed (coming from a Iphone).

It's a great android phone though, and it has some cool things like the textured power button which is neat. Though the area where the glass covered the camera looked weird to me.

Comparing it to the iPhone though
- both in design and use, there's still a good margin left.

Oh come on! the iPhone is just Meh! after the Pixel and I have both Android and iPhone. Tell me what is this margin?

To be honest all this iOS v Android stuff is just rubbish. The fact is that you can (and many do) load up your iPhone with Google apps and they will work fantastically well on an iPhone and many of the apps are in fact much better than the Apple stock apps. Therefore it's a win win for the consumer. I doubt however, many people would want to put Apple apps on an Android phone, even if they could.
 
So you're basing your research on you and your friends - plausible?
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Oh come on! the iPhone is just Meh! after the Pixel and I have both Android and iPhone. Tell me what is this margin?

To be honest all this iOS v Android stuff is just rubbish. The fact is that you can (and many do) load up your iPhone with Google apps and they will work fantastically well on an iPhone and many of the apps are in fact much better than the Apple stock apps. Therefore it's a win win for the consumer. I doubt however, many people would want to put Apple apps on an Android phone, even if they could.

It's a forgettable phone, hopefully the next iteration has something better going for it.
 
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It is still going to flop b.c of the way google is handling distribution. Bestbuy and Verizon are the only brick and mortar stores that sell it. They are not look for nexus sales numbers...this is their phone to compete with the iphone. I will actually be shocked if I see a single on in the wild.


It's sold out on Google's website and the 128GB is backordered until mid November. I work with over 100 co workers and in it's release week, 3 of us already own it. Only one person owns a iPhone 7. Please tell me again how this is going to flop?
 
So can all now go with accusing Google of under supplying to make it seem scarce as sick to death of that trope being done here with Apple with every phone release.....
 
It's sold out on Google's website and the 128GB is backordered until mid November. I work with over 100 co workers and in it's release week, 3 of us already own it. Only one person owns a iPhone 7. Please tell me again how this is going to flop?

I would hardly say that means it is selling well. They could have had 50,000 phones ready to go. I am also certain you probably work in a tech field.

That would be like saying the nexus' sell good, but those always sell out. The crowd buying this is very similar, but less b.c of the price.

You have to be realistic. They should have made it available on all carriers. It would have done wonders.
 
So you're basing your research on you and your friends - plausible?
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Oh come on! the iPhone is just Meh! after the Pixel and I have both Android and iPhone. Tell me what is this margin?

To be honest all this iOS v Android stuff is just rubbish. The fact is that you can (and many do) load up your iPhone with Google apps and they will work fantastically well on an iPhone and many of the apps are in fact much better than the Apple stock apps. Therefore it's a win win for the consumer. I doubt however, many people would want to put Apple apps on an Android phone, even if they could.


I just said, that my FRIENDS in FRANKFURT are MAJORITY Android users.

But what I'VE seen at PUBS and CAFES, meaning STRANGERS and MOST people I see whether tourists or locals use iPhones.


Is english your first language, because I did state that 2-3 posts ago.


Besides that I'm including what I've seen and customers, friends, Girlfriends, from Chennai, China, Korea as well.

I'm not including my own country as in the USA. I develop both for Android and iOS, there is a far more demand for iOS and thats a universal knowledge.

Sorry brother, but you are the one being biased and having tunnel vision. Just because it goes against you're views doesn't make it right.

None of my clients whether its in the US, China, Europe, Or India would want an Android app as a priority.

Especially B2B apps which require security which Androids are prone to.
 
I just said, that my FRIENDS in FRANKFURT are MAJORITY Android users.

But what I'VE seen at PUBS and CAFES, meaning STRANGERS and MOST people I see whether tourists or locals use iPhones.


Is english your first language, because I did state that 2-3 posts ago.

The data seems not to back up your observations.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Kant...rket-share-in-the-US-Europe-and-China_id79971

This says 19% for the EU and when I look around I'd say that's pretty close.
 
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Awesome...but can he really do anything at this point? Competition is good. Stolen tech or not, not one company should rule over all.


Competition is needed, a monopoly is horrible. Imagine if one OS whether Android (LOL) or iOS becomes the only mobile OS, if there is any security breach or if there is a huge bug/virus/spyware that effects businesses (getting CC information, Social (or whatever equivalent in other countries) Is huge.
 
Then Tim Cook Came alone and let the iPhone destroyed itself... We have to wait untill 2018 for Oled screen when the pixels already have it...

And Android devices have to probably wait until 2020 so that they have a SOC thats even remotely in the same galaxy as the A9 or A10.
Also DisplayMate says the iphone 7 screen is pretty good, as in one of the best and most accurate ones they ever tested.
 
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