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The fact that too many of the people saying the Xr is better than the XS/Max, and then mentioning money right after, says alot. They'll deny it, but realistically its probably an issue of affordability without admitting it.
 
The fact that too many of the people saying the Xr is better than the XS/Max, and then mentioning money right after, says alot. They'll deny it, but realistically its probably an issue of affordability without admitting it.
I have plenty of money. It's a question of value, not affordability. People who have a lot of money tend to be wise with it not stupid, and to me personally a 1000+ dollar phone wasn't a smart decision. It's not doing anything remarkably different than the XR to justify the 400+ dollar difference I would have had to pay.

So now I have about 400 dollars to put towards the upcoming iPad Pro.
 
The fact that too many of the people saying the Xr is better than the XS/Max, and then mentioning money right after, says alot. They'll deny it, but realistically its probably an issue of affordability without admitting it.

I think you could argue that for sure, but I can afford any of the three new devices so for me its always a case of VFM. I don't know if you have children, but I think when you have commitments like that on top of everything else, VFM does come into it. I don't know if that is the same as affordability? I don't think so. I can afford any of them, but I am leaning towards the Xr due to VFM. I am a prudent kind of guy, who never usually pays retail for anything, and I've got to feel that I am getting a good deal. I don't believe £1000 and above is a good deal for a mobile phone. Saying that I do like the XS from what I have seen, but then I think why does a premium phone have so many reported issues, not least poor battery life, which for me is a real concern.

I am aware most of those on here are children themselves, or at least young people with zero commitments, so I don't expect you to understand. Those in your late 30's or 40's will get what I am saying I think.
 
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Checked out the Xr in person twice now and I’m very impressed. No idea what this guy above is talking about re: it feeling cheap. It’s solid, glass and aluminum, feels great in my hands. Bezel didn’t bother me. I saw the same LCD I’ve grown to love (and now miss) on iPhones past. No color shift, no piss yellow, nice and uniform, functional True Tone.

I have an XS and am likely buying an Xr. I liked it that much. Will use both and eventually sell whichever I like least.
 
Checked out the Xr in person twice now and I’m very impressed. No idea what this guy above is talking about re: it feeling cheap. It’s solid, glass and aluminum, feels great in my hands. Bezel didn’t bother me. I saw the same LCD I’ve grown to love (and now miss) on iPhones past. No color shift, no piss yellow, nice and uniform, functional True Tone.

I have an XS and am likely buying an Xr. I liked it that much. Will use both and eventually sell whichever I like least.
He went to an Apple Classics store where they still sell the iPhone 5c.
 
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I have plenty of money. It's a question of value, not affordability. People who have a lot of money tend to be wise with it not stupid, and to me personally a 1000+ dollar phone wasn't a smart decision. It's not doing anything remarkably different than the XR to justify the 400+ dollar difference I would have had to pay.

So now I have about 400 dollars to put towards the upcoming iPad Pro.

You can have "plenty of money" and still not be able to afford it. Everything else you said is subjective hyperbole.

1. "People who have a lot of money tend to be wise with it not stupid" - OPINION

2. "to me personally a 1000+ dollar phone wasn't a smart decision" - At least you realized is just your opinion. it doesn't make it fact at all.

3. "It's not doing anything remarkably different than the XR to justify the 400+ dollar difference I would have had to pay." - It actually is doing alot of things, remarkably different. Screen (size,contrast, PPI), Storage options available, dual rear camera w/ optical zoom, Faster LTE speeds, 3D touch, premium build, colors, RAM, resell value, etc. Pretty remarkable. Also, again, the fact that you mention price in your decision making, says alot about the affordability.
 
You can have "plenty of money" and still not be able to afford it. Everything else you said is subjective hyperbole.

1. "People who have a lot of money tend to be wise with it not stupid" - OPINION

2. "to me personally a 1000+ dollar phone wasn't a smart decision" - At least you realized is just your opinion. it doesn't make it fact at all.

3. "It's not doing anything remarkably different than the XR to justify the 400+ dollar difference I would have had to pay." - It actually is doing alot of things, remarkably different. Screen (size,contrast, PPI), Storage options available, dual rear camera w/ optical zoom, Faster LTE speeds, 3D touch, premium build, colors, RAM, resell value, etc. Pretty remarkable. Also, again, the fact that you mention price in your decision making, says alot about the affordability.

1- No kidding. We're on a discussion forum offering our opinions. Do you need that stated explicitly to comprehend that?

2 - Duhhhh see 1

3 - XR has better battery life, no connection issues, 128gb memory option, is a better size, looks cooler and has the same resale value as any other iPhone. And in case it wasn't clear - those were mostly my OPINIONS.

But there I go applying logic to my purchasing decisions instead of resorting to hyperbolic nonsense like "LOL the XR is for poorsies."
 
I just returned my XR. The size is just too much. I would love more screen than my 8 but this is too heavy and wide. I had an X last year but the OLED color shifting was maddening. The XR I had also shifted, it wasn't as severe but enough to bother me. If i am going to be bothered by the display then I may as well get the XS and have something easier to hold. A slightly smaller XR would be ideal but no such luck so I might just stick with the 8. Frustrating.
 
I just returned my XR. The size is just too much. I would love more screen than my 8 but this is too heavy and wide. I had an X last year but the OLED color shifting was maddening. The XR I had also shifted, it wasn't as severe but enough to bother me. If i am going to be bothered by the display then I may as well get the XS and have something easier to hold. A slightly smaller XR would be ideal but no such luck so I might just stick with the 8. Frustrating.
Oof, if you think the XR is too wide, I think you might have an issue with phones going further. The XR is actually pretty narrow for a large phone. It's pretty much the only fault I can find with it. I'm not a fan of the screen ratio because of what it does to text size in portrait mode.
 
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I think you could argue that for sure, but I can afford any of the three new devices so for me its always a case of VFM. I don't know if you have children, but I think when you have commitments like that on top of everything else, VFM does come into it. I don't know if that is the same as affordability? I don't think so. I can afford any of them, but I am leaning towards the Xr due to VFM. I am a prudent kind of guy, who never usually pays retail for anything, and I've got to feel that I am getting a good deal. I don't believe £1000 and above is a good deal for a mobile phone. Saying that I do like the XS from what I have seen, but then I think why does a premium phone have so many reported issues, not least poor battery life, which for me is a real concern.

I am aware most of those on here are children themselves, or at least young people with zero commitments, so I don't expect you to understand. Those in your late 30's or 40's will get what I am saying I think.

Affordability is more than how much money is in a bank account. Two people can have the exact same amount of money but not be able to afford the same product. Regardless, your reasons seem to be much different, and well thought out. I was speaking to the "it does the exact same this the XS does but apple isn't ripping you off" crowd.
 
Oof, if you think the XR is too wide, I think you might have an issue with phones going further. The XR is actually pretty narrow for a large phone. It's pretty much the only fault I can find with it. I'm not a fan of the screen ratio because of what it does to text size in portrait mode.
I think you're probably right and I will have to get used to it eventually but it's not going to be today. The XS is an ok width I just wish the OLED was a little better. Maybe when micro led comes along I'll be happy. ;)
 
I work in the financial services industry in NYC and there are hundreds of employees on my floor so I have a pretty good diverse sample population

Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily statistically significant lol
 
The fact that too many of the people saying the Xr is better than the XS/Max, and then mentioning money right after, says alot. They'll deny it, but realistically its probably an issue of affordability without admitting it.
Are you wearing a $10k+ Rolex on your arm as you read this forum? Well I am and I returned my Max for the XR. It's about value not money and I don't find the XS series to have $1k+ value.
 
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"you are a classic sheep. you are the reason why Apple is a multi billion dollar organisation."

you've twisted what he said to meet your own agenda of justifying to yourself why you spent so much on your phone. isn't that more accurate? don't project your own worries onto others."

This addresses none of my talking points, goes straight to insults. classic. At least try and stay on topic.
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Are you wearing a $10k+ Rolex on your arm as you read this forum? Well I am and I returned my Max for the XR. It's about value not money.

Value, to you. Subjective. Its not necessarily a fact. You cant sit up here and say the XS devices and Xr are the same and there's no difference because you cant "feel" the difference, and then go on and say the price doesn't justify it universally. If you aren't one of those people, sit back because i'm not talking to you.
 
Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily statistically significant lol

actually I am still rocking an iPhone6S Plus as I haven't decided on my future phone as yet. writing this with my Omega Planet Ocean wristwatch on my wrist. again, its not about money, its about VFM e.g. I like a deal when I see one. No one got rich spending for the sake of it. VFM, thats the key! :)
 
actually I am still rocking an iPhone6S Plus as I haven't decided on my future phone as yet. writing this with my Omega Planet Ocean wristwatch on my wrist. again, its not about money, its about VFM e.g. I like a deal when I see one. No one got rich spending for the sake of it. VFM, thats the key! :)

FYI, I have no idea what VFM is. You cant just go making up your own abbreviations lol. But yes, like I was sayin in the other post, people are going to weight the pros and cons of each device, but its deceptive to say they are basically the same device with different price tags. its nonsense.
 
Value, to you. Subjective. Its not necessarily a fact. You cant sit up here and say the XS devices and Xr are the same and there's no difference because you cant "feel" the difference, and then go on and say the price doesn't justify it universally. If you aren't one of those people, sit back because i'm not talking to you.
Of course this applies to me. I can't speak for everyone just like you can't either about people not being able to afford the XS.
 
Sorry if my post sounds like sour grapes, but the point is that while I love my MAX, I’m not seeing the functional utility of spending $400 more on it. Apple could have designed a premium XR at $899 or $950 that could have delivered that value

I got the Max for the same display width as the Plus phones, much better for reading and video playback. The Max and XS also support HDR playback and is a big improvement over earlier iPhones (pre iPhone 8). If I wanted a smaller phone then it would be a difficult choice between the XS and XR thats for sure.
Red=XS
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Blue=Max
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Of course this applies to me. I can't speak for everyone just like you can't either about people not being able to afford the XS.

See below

"If you aren't one of those people, sit back because i'm not talking to you"
 
Compared mine to my brother's X, it's not worth the extra money. I literally have no complaints about the LCD screen & 3d touch is pointless
 
Are you wearing a $10k+ Rolex on your arm as you read this forum? Well I am and I returned my Max for the XR. It's about value not money and I don't find the XS series to have $1k+ value.

Just curious-- other than it's monetary worth, what value does a 10k device that only tells time have over a 50 dollar watch? Since you find the iPhone XR to be a better value (and I do too), owning a $10k watch kind of goes against the point you're making.....
 
Just curious-- other than it's monetary worth, what value does a 10k device that only tells time have over a 50 dollar watch? Since you find the iPhone XR to be a better value (and I do too), owning a $10k watch kind of goes against the point you're making.....
I had a feeling someone would ask that. It's partly for guilty pleasure and partly for investment. My watch has increased in value the day I bought it and even used it'll fetch at least 20% higher than what I paid for.
 
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Premium cars will get you from A to B just as good as any economy car. But they can costs 10s of thousands more. Does the premium car owner say they got ripped off? Some people just enjoy having a premium product. Some people may have a specific need for the XS / Max’s slight performance benefits. So really there’s not much else to say. I like my Max and don’t feel like I was ripped off.

This...just gonna post this or recite this to my friends when they ask me why I went for the Max over the XR...
 
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