Oh, I see what you mean, you were talking about the player being region-free... yes you're right there do seem to be far fewer multi-region BD players than there were DVD players.
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Oh, I see what you mean, you were talking about the player being region-free... yes you're right there do seem to be far fewer multi-region BD players than there were DVD players.
I think there will be plenty of backwards compatibility moving forward. Gone are the days of proprietary systems and coding. We are already playing what are otherwise watered down PC games.
And I think much like PC's we will have "minimum requirements" so a Playstation game will say "Playstation Pro (6/7/8/whatever) or higher" on the box. Each incremental bump will offer better graphical fidelity and/or frame rates.
Sony will offer a new model every year or two and still sell the previous model at a discounted rate....similar to what they are doing now with the Playstation 4 and Playstation 4 Pro.
Just my theory anyway...
And I think much like PC's we will have "minimum requirements" so a Playstation game will say "Playstation Pro (6/7/8/whatever) or higher" on the box. Each incremental bump will offer better graphical fidelity and/or frame rates.
Sony will offer a new model every year or two and still sell the previous model at a discounted rate....similar to what they are doing now with the Playstation 4 and Playstation 4 Pro.
Just my theory anyway...
Absolutely terrible plan by SONY which is odd considering how well they have done this generation of consoles.
My last console (aside from a 3DS XL) was a PS2 in 2000-ish. Still use it to.
I'm not a hard core gamer. I just bought the 3DS to replay classic games from my childhood and I'll do the same with the PS4. The Pro is only $100 for much more graphics power. Since I tend to keep my consoles for...I don't know...16 years
I'll get the best one that will last the longest. Plus, future games may optimize for it and I might get a 4K tv one day.
Right now, games I want are:
That is an overwhelming list for me! I just remembered, that I did get a Wii like 6/7 years ago, but only ever had Super Smash Bros for it, so I didn't use it much. I only ever had like 4 games for my PS2 and like 3 for my Game Cube. Perhaps not the most exciting games, but I'm giddy for them! Much more than anything Apple's done lately.
I'm not a hard core gamer. I just bought the 3DS to replay classic games from my childhood and I'll do the same with the PS4. The Pro is only $100 for much more graphics power. Since I tend to keep my consoles for...I don't know...16 years
I'll get the best one that will last the longest. Plus, future games may optimize for it and I might get a 4K tv one day.Right now, games I want are:
- Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD (childhood game)
- Kingdom Hearts 1.5 (childhood game - this announcement on Oct 27 is what made up my mind to get one)
- Kingdom Hearts 2.5 (childhood game - this announcement on Oct 27 is what made up my mind to get one)
- Kingdom Hearts 2.8
- Kingdom Hearts 3
- Dark Cloud (childhood game)
That is an overwhelming list for me!
I just remembered, that I did get a Wii like 6/7 years ago, but only ever had Super Smash Bros for it, so I didn't use it much. I only ever had like 4 games for my PS2 and like 3 for my Game Cube. Perhaps not the most exciting games, but I'm giddy for them! Much more than anything Apple's done lately.4k Blu-Ray is no big deal to me. 1080p movies look fantastic, and I would have to sit way closer to my tv than I like to in order to appreciate 4k resolution in movies.
Besides that, I don't even remember the last time I bought a movie on a disc.
I'm happy they left it out as it would have meant either a higher price tag or a compromise in other components.
Besides that, I don't even remember the last time I bought a movie on a disc.
I'm happy they left it out as it would have meant either a higher price tag or a compromise in other components.
I agree. It doesn't seem like a well thought out plan on Sony's end. Sometimes this happens when too many people in an organization want different things and this is the result.
I was wondering if it is possibly due to it being too late in the build/design process and they just moved forward without delaying or changing the implementation.
Seems very odd.
I mean, it is odd to now allow 4K (really scaled up 1080p) games to run with no Blue ray, but I it would make sense if you think about your post.
The PS4 Pro in generally seems kind of patched together or an awkward middle child. I think they wanted to get it to market and didn't want to redesign the system.
Since Sony now owns Movie Studios & Television Networks, the studios have always been a little "nervous" of people owning theater quality movies and shows at home.
I've watched them over the years complain.
First, Videotapes - now people can watch at home, but the quality lacks and with drop outs plus the tape wears down means they won't last forever - so there's no worries.
Then LaserDisc - but still, not the resolution and "widescreen" versions were not great when enlarged. The LaserDisc community is small.
Then DVD - okay, they're a bit more nervous now, a digital format, but still, 480p can't hurt and not many people have large screens...
Now, Blu-ray, getting closer and closer - 1080p when older movies remastered and new movies filmed in the format - flat panels are a bit new and pricey - but the theaters are now digital at 4K...
4K UHD - okay, that's it - theater quality on disc in the palm of your hand - no way, as far as many studios are concerned...
Studios want to go to a "pay per play" download with DRM or streaming model...
$150 for current PS4 as of now but interesting to see if they do a bonus % for a trade up offer. I dont think they will but never know with the holidays coming.
They already upped it from $125 for the PS4 Pro launch... probably not...
According to some people at Gamestop, many are going to be trade-ups and they will probably sell-out so there's no need to give more...
All you people with your systems to trade in. You could be charitable and float one my way! I'd let you borrow my PS2!
They added a few more titles to the list of supported games, including Hitman and Ratchet & Clank.
$150.00 isn't bad. I wonder how the preorders are Looking for the release? I plan on upgrading in the next Month or so.
GameStop here are offering the PS4 pro for €145 if you trade up/in a 1tb old PS4 and a select game. If you have Level 3 membership you get extra trade in credit too.
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I am currently backing up my PS4 to an external drive. I have 1.4TB used and it's going to take 15 hours to backup
Given when I get my pro - I have to put a 2TB drive into it, then install the firmware, then copy the external drive back to the internal - it looks like I'll be lucky if I can play my new PS4 Pro at all on launch day ....
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I am currently backing up my PS4 to an external drive. I have 1.4TB used and it's going to take 15 hours to backup
Given when I get my pro - I have to put a 2TB drive into it, then install the firmware, then copy the external drive back to the internal - it looks like I'll be lucky if I can play my new PS4 Pro at all on launch day ....
I'm a big Call of Duty fan on the PS4 and I made the decision that I was going to get the PS4 Pro. I even bought a 4K monitor in anticipation. I realize that a gaming PC would be better, but consoles are a lot better for a game like Call of Duty because more people are playing and it's easier to group up with fellow players. I also prefer using a controller instead of a mouse and keyboard. I tend to play only a few games a year so replayability is paramount. I justify my decision to buy another console on the fact that I don't spend that much money on games and instead play the multiplayer versions over and over.
How is the Pro in comparison to the XB 1 S?
Similar? Many tech differences?
I just picked up the XB1S and man it is beautiful the 4k capabilities and HDR functions on the games that are capable and it even feels a little snappier.
I wouldnt mind trading in my PS4 for a Pro if the price is right and if its worth it.
Similar? Many tech differences?
I just picked up the XB1S and man it is beautiful the 4k capabilities and HDR functions on the games that are capable and it even feels a little snappier.
I wouldnt mind trading in my PS4 for a Pro if the price is right and if its worth it.
On games that don't utilize PS4 Pro features they are similar. With the Xbox 1 S having the added benefits of 4K upscaling and a BD player.
For games the utilize PS4 Pro features the Pro is a fairly large step forward in graphic fidelity actually rendering at higher resolutions.
The Pro will be better compared to Microsofts next console, code name Project Scorpio. I believe that is due out late 2017 and should be a large step over the PS4 Pro.
I thought the Pro couldn't render native 4K, but only scaled up 1080p similar to what Apple does with Retina Displays.
Still debating if I should trade up for the PS4Pro.
I have a 4k TV...But if an update is releasing for the standard PS4 to upscale the graphics...Maybe I should just save my money.
I have a 4k TV...But if an update is releasing for the standard PS4 to upscale the graphics...Maybe I should just save my money.
It can however it's very limited. For example Mantis Burn Racing is a top down racing game rendered in a native 4K. The graphics are fairly simple (think PSN downloadable racing game) so it's not really that impressive.
Other games like Dues Ex use Sonys "checker board" effect. Which renders at a higher resolution toward the center of the screen out portions get a lower resolution. Supposedly this still looks really good during gameplay.
Other games will just have a higher resolution like 1440p (for example).
Games like Tomb Raider are seeing added effects like better antialiasing at 1080p which that game desperately needed.
Check out Digital Foundry on YouTube, they seem to be the goto currently for the latest Pro tech.
Unfortunately it appears that Sony opted to have an SLI type setup utilizing current PS4 hardware in the PS4 Pro. So current and non upgraded games will use nearly identical hardware as they are now. Which means it's unlikely there will be any bump in performance at all. So current drops in FPS will still exist even on the new PS4 Pro.
No, it can render 4K dependent on game / developers
Some games will run 4K, others may use 1440-1800p and then upscale to 4K, but that's still a massive increase over 1080p
Other games may keep 1080p but utilise additional power for better Frame rates or enhanced post processing.
But yes, some games will indeed be 4K
The pro also has an extra 1gb ram for its graphics pool ...