You have no rights and you are not being exploited... why the drama?
Yes, you have a voice... vote with your $$
If Apple does not give you what you want, buy something else
It really is that simple
If HP has what you want... then buy it
Why demand that Apple have what HP has?
Just by the damn HP
I never understand why people want to turn a MBP into an Alienware laptop
If that is what you want, buy it and leave my MBP alone
It would be like walking into McDonalds and asking for a Whopper
Counter Person: May I help you?
Me: I'd like a Whopper, fries and a shake
Counter Person: I'm sorry sir, we don't serve Whoppers, but we have the Big Mac
Me: Does it have tomatoes and mayo and a quarter pound of beef?
Counter Person: No, it has two all beef patties, special sauce, pickles, onions and a sesame seed bun
Me: Hmmm, sounds... old... I'll have a Whopper, thanks
Counter Person: But sir, we don't sell Whoppers
Me: I want to see the Manager
Manager: Can I help you?
Me: I demand you make me a Whopper
Manager: Sir, we don't sell Whoppers, but you can get one next door at Burger King
Me: I want a McDonald's Whopper and I want it NOW
Manager: Sir, we don't sell Whoppers, if you want a Whopper, you have to go to Burger King
Me: I am not going to stand for you selling inferior burgers to the Whopper. I am tired of being exploited at McDonalds with this crap you call a burger. I demand you stay up with current trends and sell me a Whopper.
Manager: NEXT!
Most of you seem to think the Mac is worth it almost entirely because of the experience. Agreed, no argument. What I don't get is why you feel like this makes it okay to put sub-par components in the notebook. A good user experience doesn't require cutting back on the parts inside. There is no reason why we cannot have a good OS, build quality and customer service with high performance components all at the same time.
Day is made.You have no rights and you are not being exploited... why the drama?
Yes, you have a voice... vote with your $$
If Apple does not give you what you want, buy something else
It really is that simple
If HP has what you want... then buy it
Why demand that Apple have what HP has?
Just by the damn HP
I never understand why people want to turn a MBP into an Alienware laptop
If that is what you want, buy it and leave my MBP alone
It would be like walking into McDonalds and asking for a Whopper
Counter Person: May I help you?
Me: I'd like a Whopper, fries and a shake
Counter Person: I'm sorry sir, we don't serve Whoppers, but we have the Big Mac
Me: Does it have tomatoes and mayo and a quarter pound of beef?
Counter Person: No, it has two all beef patties, special sauce, pickles, onions and a sesame seed bun
Me: Hmmm, sounds... old... I'll have a Whopper, thanks
Counter Person: But sir, we don't sell Whoppers
Me: I want to see the Manager
Manager: Can I help you?
Me: I demand you make me a Whopper
Manager: Sir, we don't sell Whoppers, but you can get one next door at Burger King
Me: I want a McDonald's Whopper and I want it NOW
Manager: Sir, we don't sell Whoppers, if you want a Whopper, you have to go to Burger King
Me: I am not going to stand for you selling inferior burgers to the Whopper. I am tired of being exploited at McDonalds with this crap you call a burger. I demand you stay up with current trends and sell me a Whopper.
Manager: NEXT!
I'm not a psychiatrist either, but I think you may have an issue in need of medication.
When Apple comes out with a refresh, Mac is pretty good value even considering the seemingly lower spec compared to PC counterparts at similar price. But the problem is that Apple usually keeps them at the same price until the next refresh comes out, and that is why some people accuses Apple of being a rip-off.
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Sandy b is the latest greatest - you just gota have it. When you pay that kind of money for a notebook, it can't be last season. Imagine buying a duo core now - eww!
Most of you seem to think the Mac is worth it almost entirely because of the experience. Agreed, no argument. What I don't get is why you feel like this makes it okay to put sub-par components in the notebook. A good user experience doesn't require cutting back on the parts inside. There is no reason why we cannot have a good OS, build quality and customer service with high performance components all at the same time.
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Sandy b is the latest greatest - you just gota have it. When you pay that kind of money for a notebook, it can't be last season. Imagine buying a duo core now - eww!
I enjoy using my mac (MBP) because I feel it has a better construction, better customer service, better user interface(s), and an overall nicer feel.
This is all completely subjective.
I am willing to pay for these subjective qualities in spite of "higher specs" because for 99% of my use of a computer or more - and probably 95%+ of those reading this - the current MBP specs are perfectly fine for what I will do.
I pay extra for the experience types of things and not for specs. If a windows laptop were to compete with apple on the overall experience I may consider purchasing it instead as a result of a cost difference. They don't.
This is why I am now a likely lifetime mac user. It is not the specs. I do not care whether I have the "fastest laptop" if I do not enjoy using it.
The entire premise of this thread is based on faulty assumptions that I, as a mac user, care more about the statistical performance of a laptop I use hours each day than how well I actually enjoy using it.
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Sandy b is the latest greatest - you just gota have it. When you pay that kind of money for a notebook, it can't be last season. Imagine buying a duo core now - eww!
There are barely any sandy bridge laptops on the market at the moment. Online they're back ordered to february. On shelves, they simply don't exist.Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/8C148)
Sandy b is the latest greatest - you just gota have it. When you pay that kind of money for a notebook, it can't be last season. Imagine buying a duo core now - eww!
There are barely any sandy bridge laptops on the market at the moment. Online they're back ordered to february. On shelves, they simply don't exist.
Also, 90% on sandy bridge mobile CPUs aren't even out. That is, dual core CPUs will be available next month.
What are you talking about then? Except for 13"inchers and airs (for the obvious reasons we all know), Apple sells what nearly everybody is selling now in jan 2011: arrandale laptops.
True, but even prices even when new are very much higher. My brother just got a new MBP which was USD1899 when when it came out as new a few months ago. I just saw a Sandy Bridge quad core Acer selling for half that. Yes, unibody, battery life and what not but half the price?
When I got my MBP a 2+ years ago, I could spec a PC to the same specs at about 80% the cost and the Apple advantage made the price premium very easily to justify. At 50% it is not so easy.
Big computer stores had them on the shelves 10 days ago ( from Asus ). Not sure if they are still there, because most online shops are out of stock now so they must be selling very fast.
Any way you could link us with that Acer then? I just browsed through Acer's site and I wasn't able to find a laptop with Sandy Bridge CPU. Yes, there were older quads (Clarksfield) for less than 900$ but that is not the same thing as Sandy Bridge. As noted above, the availability of Sandy Bridge laptops appears to be fairly poor. Other OEMs release products even though they know they cannot provide them yet but Apple won't release theirs until they know they can provide them and match the demand.
Sandy b is the latest greatest - you just gota have it.
Pics? Reviews? Link to 24hrs available shipping online?
And anyway as far as i'm concerned if dell and asus put on their stores say 50 units just FOR THE SAKE OF IT, sandybridge isn't REALLY out and widely availble and this thread is madness (like the "how many customers apple has lost because of sandy bridge" thread).
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=11774860#post11774860
And, I repeat, the gross of the CPUs (dual cores) aren't even out.
It's in a language you won't be able to read. Like i said, most stores are sold out now. But if you checked maybe 7 to 10 days ago, you could have one since these guys bought it around that date.
This Asus is leading the ranking list of most popular laptops so I highly doubt they only sold 50 laptops.
Big computer stores had them on the shelves 10 days ago ( from Asus ). Not sure if they are still there, because most online shops are out of stock now so they must be selling very fast.