That has to be related to local tax, I just purchased a Surface Book and the i7, 8Gb, 256SSD & DGPU works out to be less than $2100 USD so it`s not Microsoft as they price similar to Apple stock price, plus local taxation.
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[POLL] Are you going to upgrade to any of the new MacBook Pros [MERGED]
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That has to be related to local tax, I just purchased a Surface Book and the i7, 8Gb, 256SSD & DGPU works out to be less than $2100 USD so it`s not Microsoft as they price similar to Apple stock price, plus local taxation.
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Sold my 27" iMac in July and have patiently waited for the new MBP...I may decide on ordering the base model with 16gb of RAM.
Now to figure out which dongle is best...
Now to figure out which dongle is best...
Happy with my mid-2010. It's not my most powerful machine (12 core Mac Pro) so I don't need it to be able to handle complicated Final Cut Projects or studio sessions. With the Samsung 840 EVO and 8GB RAM upgrade I did years ago, it handles very well and I don't plan on replacing it for awhile.
I'm actually upgrading from my Mac mini to a mid-2015 (or mid-2014, but I'm pretty set on the PCIe 3.0 x4 SSD in the mid-2015! ) MacBook Pro.
) MacBook Pro.What a disappointment. We waited 4 years for a gimmicky touch bar?! No thanks on so many levels. I have a 15" 2015 Retina MBP. I'm glad I made this purchase when I did. I read as much as I could about the upcoming MBP and it sounded like it wasn't going to be for me. My wife has a MacBook. The keyboard is simply terrible. If you are a genuine touch typist this keyboard is horrible. Then, you took away my SD card slot, my HDMI connection for my EIZO monitor, my thunderbolt slots, etc, etc. I refuse to carry around a bag full of dongles. What the dickens is going on at Apple!?!?! I was poised to make a purchase of an updated Mini or Pro and a new MBP. As it stands, I'll just have to sit on what I'm using until the 2015 MBP, my Mini and my iMac become so outdated I'll be forced to buy a lesser machine from Apple. I really wish SJ were still alive. This new MBP no doubt has him rolling over in his grave.
I will be buying a new apple laptop to replace my 2009 model, but not today it seems. Just cancelled my preorder.
It's not that I've been convinced by the massive amounts of negativity on these forums, moreso it's that for the price of a 512gb HDD version I need to be convinced that it will suit my needs for the next 4 years, and with 16gb I'm not sure. Also I can avoid sales tax if I buy from a reseller once they have stock. I get what apple are doing with the ports, but I'm not happy having to pay through the nose to be inconvenienced. I'm also not happy to pay even more cash for adapters, at least a USB one will be needed. Lastly I'm looking forward to going through all this and running the risk of having issues with gen 1 hardware.
Oh, and giving the finger to the increasingly arrogant man feels nice too.
Going to sit back and think on this for a while. Perhaps next year.
It's not that I've been convinced by the massive amounts of negativity on these forums, moreso it's that for the price of a 512gb HDD version I need to be convinced that it will suit my needs for the next 4 years, and with 16gb I'm not sure. Also I can avoid sales tax if I buy from a reseller once they have stock. I get what apple are doing with the ports, but I'm not happy having to pay through the nose to be inconvenienced. I'm also not happy to pay even more cash for adapters, at least a USB one will be needed. Lastly I'm looking forward to going through all this and running the risk of having issues with gen 1 hardware.
Oh, and giving the finger to the increasingly arrogant man feels nice too.
Going to sit back and think on this for a while. Perhaps next year.
Steve would have removed the ports faster
While I wait for my 15" MacBook pro. I thought I share this tidbit i found on Apple insider. It adds that Apple has removed optical audio out support from the 2016 MacBook pros headphone jack. http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...rops-optical-audio-out-through-headphone-jack.
Not sure what you mean by that last statement. Both the USB-C ports on the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pro support "full" TB3 speeds, and all four of the USB-C ports on the 15" MacBook Pro supports full TB3 speeds. Only two of the four ports on the Touch Bar MBP have reduced speeds. Charge your computer through the right side, and you still have two free full speed TB3 ports.No dongles for me, at least not for EVERYTHING.
I could live with a HDMI dongle,
but removing an USB A-type port is just utterly stupid. Definitely if your second usb typeC port doesnt support full thunderbolt 3 speeds...
Ways for Apple to capitalize on the new MacBook Pro (with Touchbar):
1. Sell many dongles
2. Make Users buy new MacBook Pros earlier because:
a. their MacBook Pro fell to the ground as someone tripped over the charging cable (less likely)
b. in a few years their apps demand more than 16Gigs of Ram
c. the new Touchbar gets an updated screen and Apple-CPU every year and Apple makes this ever more awesome (Since Intel cant keep up with new, more awesome updates every year, Apple stepped in)
d. the next version supports HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 and 10-bit HEVC/H.265
1. Sell many dongles
2. Make Users buy new MacBook Pros earlier because:
a. their MacBook Pro fell to the ground as someone tripped over the charging cable (less likely)
b. in a few years their apps demand more than 16Gigs of Ram
c. the new Touchbar gets an updated screen and Apple-CPU every year and Apple makes this ever more awesome (Since Intel cant keep up with new, more awesome updates every year, Apple stepped in)
d. the next version supports HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 and 10-bit HEVC/H.265
What I find much more of a disappointment was reading about incompatibilities with some currently existing Thunderbolt 3 devices.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...compatible-with-certain-thunderbolt-3-devices
While waiting for new MacBooks I bought an ASUS Zenbook 15". It has all the ports I need and even a TB3 port, but it only runs Windows 10. With all the issues with the new Macbook generation I decided to get the old 2015 Macbook Pro 15 while still available. I really hope that Apple gets their act together in the next 2 to 3 years.
Changed my vote to no. A middle of the road laptop with Linux installed will do everything I need except any iOS work. I hope that a lot of other developers decide to move over to Linux as well. Even though I've never wrote a driver, I'm going to dedicate time to learning how to write drivers for audio interfaces.
I've been singing Apple's praises long before the iPod came out. I still love using OSX, but I'm over it. The Mac line is a sinking ship. I LOVED my old G5 tower. Performance (at the time), expansion slots, easy to work on, and it looked like a million bucks. iMac? Please. NONE of us wanted that thing. We settled for it. Mac Mini's? I like those, but not for anything serious.
If Apple came out with a mid-tower like the old G5/Mac Pro's where you could upgrade RAM, add extra video cards, etc., we would jump for joy. Literally, jump for f***ing joy. We'd forgive everything we're mad about. But they'll never do that. Those days are long gone. And, that's why I have no interest in using (or writing apps for) the platform anymore.
I've been singing Apple's praises long before the iPod came out. I still love using OSX, but I'm over it. The Mac line is a sinking ship. I LOVED my old G5 tower. Performance (at the time), expansion slots, easy to work on, and it looked like a million bucks. iMac? Please. NONE of us wanted that thing. We settled for it. Mac Mini's? I like those, but not for anything serious.
If Apple came out with a mid-tower like the old G5/Mac Pro's where you could upgrade RAM, add extra video cards, etc., we would jump for joy. Literally, jump for f***ing joy. We'd forgive everything we're mad about. But they'll never do that. Those days are long gone. And, that's why I have no interest in using (or writing apps for) the platform anymore.
I have an early 2015 rMBP 13" that's about a year and a half old. There's nothing wrong with it and can't justify it's replacement.
Resale values don't help my decision. Even if I were to get $1000 for this rMBP, I would still need $800 for the base 13" with touch bar. Let's see what deals Black Friday bring...
Resale values don't help my decision. Even if I were to get $1000 for this rMBP, I would still need $800 for the base 13" with touch bar. Let's see what deals Black Friday bring...
I'm on a 2012 rMBP and I too will wait. There's only a 10 to 20% increase in performance with today's Sky lake processors over the 2012 processors. If you can hold off for 2 years, I'm hoping by then there will be a big adoption of USB-C with printers, monitors and other devices.
Until Apple puts a quad core in a 13" (something I have been waiting for since before they put one in the 17" and then 15" ) I'm not going to upgrade to anything - other than a used/refurbished 2012 2.9GHz 13" cMBP w/16 GB - and I'll put a SSD in it. Retina is a waste for me - I use external monitors, and I don't use the track pad, I like my ports, I hate paying more for dongles than what I am connecting them to and hate even more having to buy something new that I already have that would now need a dongle, and I love my super-drive magsafe and SD card slot.
I just checked my warranty status and I have AppleCare until March 2018, so unless there's a killer deal, I'm waiting.
Still sticking with "Yes" for my vote, even if I'm stretching the definition of "new MacBook Pro" to "any of the ones released from here on out."
Part of the reason is that my mid-2012 non-retina 13" MBP is still running great. I guess I don't make it work hard enough because the fans never turn on unless I'm converting video with Handbrake (or some random web page freaks out), but if I can keep a Mac for five years with no issues, I'll definitely buy one again.
Another part is, I don't need all these ports and connections anymore. I'm thinking of using the SD slot to create a bootable Ubuntu SD card, but I'd rather have another USB port or two. I suppose I could use the optical drive to rip a bunch of my DVDs so I have movies to watch when I travel, but I could do that later (which is what I've been saying for, um... ten years...). FW800 and Thunderbolt? I have no Thunderbolt accessories. I've got a couple FW800 portable drives, but they're feeling cramped, and I just purchased a much larger USB-C external drive. I could wipe the FW800 drives and bundle them with my 2012 MBP when I eventually sell it. The last time I used the Ethernet port was when the internet crapped out; I plugged it into my cable modem only to discover that the modem was fine and my whole neighborhood was experiencing an outage (might have been the recent Mirai IoT botnet, too).
This is another thing -- I already have a bunch of bits and pieces that aren't compatible with my four-year-old MBP. Old first-gen FireWire, an old VGA-whatever cable still plugged into my TV (orphaned after I gave away my 2007 15")... Why should I get worked up today about the same situation that's been going for as long as personal computers have been alive? Am I supposed to harbor resentment about not being able to use an ADB mouse? Should I be angry that I don't have a built-in SCSI port for a government surplus dot-matrix printer? NOPE. Every bit of progress has been progression, not regression. Some of these things get left behind. We've dealt with it before.
Anyway... enough rambling.
TL;DR: I totally dig my current Mac, and would certainly stick with Mac in the future.
Part of the reason is that my mid-2012 non-retina 13" MBP is still running great. I guess I don't make it work hard enough because the fans never turn on unless I'm converting video with Handbrake (or some random web page freaks out), but if I can keep a Mac for five years with no issues, I'll definitely buy one again.
Another part is, I don't need all these ports and connections anymore. I'm thinking of using the SD slot to create a bootable Ubuntu SD card, but I'd rather have another USB port or two. I suppose I could use the optical drive to rip a bunch of my DVDs so I have movies to watch when I travel, but I could do that later (which is what I've been saying for, um... ten years...). FW800 and Thunderbolt? I have no Thunderbolt accessories. I've got a couple FW800 portable drives, but they're feeling cramped, and I just purchased a much larger USB-C external drive. I could wipe the FW800 drives and bundle them with my 2012 MBP when I eventually sell it. The last time I used the Ethernet port was when the internet crapped out; I plugged it into my cable modem only to discover that the modem was fine and my whole neighborhood was experiencing an outage (might have been the recent Mirai IoT botnet, too).
This is another thing -- I already have a bunch of bits and pieces that aren't compatible with my four-year-old MBP. Old first-gen FireWire, an old VGA-whatever cable still plugged into my TV (orphaned after I gave away my 2007 15")... Why should I get worked up today about the same situation that's been going for as long as personal computers have been alive? Am I supposed to harbor resentment about not being able to use an ADB mouse? Should I be angry that I don't have a built-in SCSI port for a government surplus dot-matrix printer? NOPE. Every bit of progress has been progression, not regression. Some of these things get left behind. We've dealt with it before.
Anyway... enough rambling.
TL;DR: I totally dig my current Mac, and would certainly stick with Mac in the future.
People are going to get over the removed ports, they will get over the price. It is hard to get over the lack of any performance macs. VR technology is going to leave apple in the dust. Performance computers are here to stay. Apple can realize this and release performance macs or get left behind and become a trinket manufacturer.
But you were fine carrying around the actual monitor and thunderbolt devices? I'm assuming they stay at one place and WEREN'T carried around. If so, then get a single dock and you'll have a single cable to plug in. If you did carry those devices around, then a couple adapters is the least of your worries.
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Just like blu-ray drives? VR is gimmicky.
+1 on the gimmicky part. VR won't enhance how my wife and I watch streaming TV on her MB Air.
Thats like, so Pro man.
I love how some deduce the possible applications of a Mac Computer from their own usage.
VR can be used in so many scenarions, from (obviously) gaming to marketing to architecture etc. Plus, of course VR developers. There is a good reason Microsoft Facebook and Valve invest in it. And rest assured, Apple will have its VR devices one day. You'll probably even buy it and find it amazing.