Carrier POLL - Have any AT&T Grandfathered Unlimited people finally switched plans?

[thadoggfather]

I dont think that is correct.

You get 22GB a month before throttling. 10GB of that can be used for hotspot.

So if you use 10GB of hotspot the first week, you have 12GB of iPhone data for the rest of the month before throttling kicks in. The throttling is separate from each other, but the total 22GB is the hard limit before throttling may go into effect. I can use 15GB of iPhone, then I have 7GB left for hotspot before my iPhone starts getting throttled, but I would still have 3GB more of hotspot (full speed).

AT&T told me 22GB of high speed per line, 10GB of hotspot comes from that 22GB. Other than that, their throttles are separate.

I dont disagree with what you're saying: use 10gb of hotspot, you have 12gb left of overall 22gb for phone data before throttle,

BUT whats being contested/confusing of the 10gb hotspot, it was inferred by the employee that what you use of phone data, counts against that 10gb bucket of hotspot.
i.e if you use 9.5gb of phone data, you have 0.5gb of unthrottled hotspot before the throttle kicks in

I hope that isn't the case, but that was the way it was clarified when I asked related to that, out of skepticism of the too good to be true-ness.

 

[jev425]

I dont think that is correct.

You get 22GB a month before throttling. 10GB of that can be used for hotspot.

So if you use 10GB of hotspot the first week, you have 12GB of iPhone data for the rest of the month before throttling kicks in. The throttling is separate from each other, but the total 22GB is the hard limit before throttling may go into effect. I can use 15GB of iPhone, then I have 7GB left for hotspot before my iPhone starts getting throttled, but I would still have 3GB more of hotspot (full speed).

AT&T told me 22GB of high speed per line, 10GB of hotspot comes from that 22GB. Other than that, their throttles are separate.

My understanding and what I was told as well

 

[Mlrollin91]

I dont disagree with what you're saying,

BUT of the 10gb hotspot, it was inferred by the employee that what you use of phone data, counts against that 10gb bucket of hotspot.
i.e if you use 9.5gb of phone data, you have 0.5gb of unthrottled hotspot before the throttle kicks in

I hope that isn't the case, but that was the way it was clarified when I asked related to that, out of skepticism of the too good to be true-ness.

No, that is definitely not the case. You have 22GB before the phone starts slowing down. If you use your 10GB of hotspot in the first day, you have 12GB of iPhone data at high speed until your new cycle. Until that new cycle it will be slowed down.

 

[thadoggfather]

again I dont disagree

I'm drawing the line that if you use 10gb of phone data, you dont start at 0gb of throttle hotspot cap, you start at 10gb already exceeded and are already in the throttle zone of hotspot,

I'm saying the throttles are related between phone data and hotspot data, if u go through data before using hotspot mostly as a caution

but if you use 10gb of hotspot data, of course you have 12gb remaining of the overall 22gb throttle cap on the phone

in other words, hotspot cap can never kill off phone data cap, but other way around can defeat your ability to hate unthrottled hotspot

 

[C DM]

I dont think that is correct.

You get 22GB a month before throttling. 10GB of that can be used for hotspot.

So if you use 10GB of hotspot the first week, you have 12GB of iPhone data for the rest of the month before throttling kicks in. The throttling is separate from each other, but the total 22GB is the hard limit before throttling may go into effect. I can use 15GB of iPhone, then I have 7GB left for hotspot before my iPhone starts getting throttled, but I would still have 3GB more of hotspot (full speed).

AT&T told me 22GB of high speed per line, 10GB of hotspot comes from that 22GB. Other than that, their throttles are separate.

In the case of the mobile data it's not really throttling either but deprioritization if/when applicable.

 

[Mlrollin91]

again I dont disagree

I'm drawing the line that if you use 10gb of phone data, you dont start at 0gb of throttle you start at 10gb and are already in the throttle zone

I'm saying the throttles are related, if u go through data before using hotspot mostly as a caution

They are billed separately. The server distinguishes the difference.
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In the case of the mobile data it's not really throttling either but deprioritization if/when applicable.

True, but I'm just using it as the best way to describe the 'limits'.

 

[thadoggfather]

They are billed separately. The server distinguishes the difference.

For real?

that is a relief, honestly. I'm glad to stand corrected on this

just always dubious of the Death Star as one should be especially after the FAN discount confusion and a 2nd new unlimited plan in a mere matter of a week or something

 

[C DM]

again I dont disagree

I'm drawing the line that if you use 10gb of phone data, you dont start at 0gb of throttle you start at 10gb and are already in the throttle zone

I'm saying the throttles are related, if u go through data before using hotspot mostly as a caution

I don't think 10 GB of mobile data won't count toward tethering/hotspot data.

 

[thadoggfather]

I don't think 10 GB of mobile data won't count toward tethering/hotspot data.

that is a wave of relief,

on a related note of skepticism, what increase from a 175 bill for 3 lines (pre $10 credit for Autopay and paperless) do you think can be attributed to 'fees and taxes' on a percentage level?

 

[Mlrollin91]

For real?

that is a relief, honestly. I'm glad to stand corrected on this

just always dubious of the Death Star as one should be especially after the FAN discount confusion and a 2nd new unlimited plan in a mere matter of a week or something

Let me run a few things on hotspot and I will post a screenshot tomorrow once my AT&T account updates. I was told by those on Mobile Share plans that it shows up differently. Then we will know for sure 100%.

 

[thadoggfather]

Let me run a few things on hotspot and I will post a screenshot tomorrow once my AT&T account updates. I was told by those on Mobile Share plans that it shows up differently. Then we will know for sure 100%.

Cool I should be able to hit 10gb of 99% phone data in a day or three, so ill fire up hotspot before billing cycle ends and see if its throttled or not

that'll put it to rest, my paranoia

 

[Mlrollin91]

Cool I should be able to hit 10gb of 99% phone data in a day or three, so ill fire up hotspot before billing cycle ends and see if its throttled or not

that'll put it to rest, my paranoia

I just ran exactly 157MB of data via tethering. It will post to my account by tomorrow morning.

 

[thadoggfather]

I just ran exactly 157MB of data via tethering. It will post to my account by tomorrow morning.

where do you find on myATT different breakdowns of usage of phone data and hotspot?

Do you have autopay+paperless set up and do you see the discount itemized?

 

[Mlrollin91]

where do you find on myATT different breakdowns of usage of phone data and hotspot?

Do you have autopay+paperless set up and do you see the discount itemized?

I was told it would be under "current usage" (those that have mobile share plans) so I can't verify as I have not used hotspot until this second. But that is where I will be looking in the AM. I am also chatting with AT&T right now to see where I can view what is left of the 10GB.

To the second part, it should be an itemized discount on the bill. It should read:
Line 1: 135 + taxes
Line 2: 20 + taxes
Line 3 and so on: ___
Discounts: $XX
Total Bill: $XXX

 

[thadoggfather]

I was told it would be under "current usage" (those that have mobile share plans) so I can't verify as I have not used hotspot until this second. But that is where I will be looking in the AM. I am also chatting with AT&T right now to see where I can view what is left of the 10GB.

To the second part, it should be an itemized discount on the bill. It should read:
Line 1: 135 + taxes
Line 2: 20 + taxes
Line 3 and so on: ___
Discounts: $XX
Total Bill: $XXX

Gotcha

they also say 1-2 cycles to show up, so probably by April-may, should reflect

This ATT offer is better than anything ever before, and entirely because of T-Mobile


The only people who should really evaluate old grandfathered UDP are those on a single line with cheap pool of minutes, where it may be a few bucks cheaper to stay put-- assuming there is no desire whatsoever for hotspot,

otherwise I dont see why anyone doesn't switch to Unlimited Plus or re-evaluate and switch carriers if not that,

money to be saved either way!

 

[Mlrollin91]

Gotcha

they also say 1-2 cycles to show up, so probably by April-may, should reflect

Yep. I will report back what I find out from AT&T and then again in the morning once the data posts to my account.
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Gotcha

they also say 1-2 cycles to show up, so probably by April-may, should reflect

This ATT offer is better than anything ever before, and entirely because of T-Mobile


The only people who should really evaluate old grandfathered UDP are those on a single line with cheap pool of minutes, where it may be a few bucks cheaper to stay put-- assuming there is no desire whatsoever for hotspot,

otherwise I dont see why anyone doesn't switch to Unlimited Plus or re-evaluate and switch carriers if not that,

money to be saved either way!

This is what I got from AT&T. I don't trust a word they say, but we shall see.

"Brittney: Okay, Matthew. So I have confirmed on this with my manager. Since this plan is fairly new, they have not updated the website to reflect this yet. However, they should have it updated in about a week

Matthew: So when I view my usage it will distinguish between mobile data and hotspot data?

Brittney: That is correct, Once they update the website it will show each separately"

So if this is accurate, mystery solved.

 

[thadoggfather]

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Yep. I will report back what I find out from AT&T and then again in the morning once the data posts to my account.
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This is what I got from AT&T. I don't trust a word they say, but we shall see.

"Brittney: Okay, Matthew. So I have confirmed on this with my manager. Since this plan is fairly new, they have not updated the website to reflect this yet. However, they should have it updated in about a week

Matthew: So when I view my usage it will distinguish between mobile data and hotspot data?

Brittney: That is correct, Once they update the website it will show each separately"

So if this is accurate, mystery solved.

The plan is *so new* because it's a reactionary plan haha. Revision two to new unlimited.

 

[Mlrollin91]

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The plan is *so new* because it's a reactionary plan haha. Revision two to new unlimited.

Haha yep! But that looks to be promising in backing up my thought. I read the fine print and it seems to suggest what I was saying as well. 10GB of tethering comes from the 22GB pot, but using iPhone data first will not reduce your hotspot amount.

The 10GB seems to be fixed no matter what. The way I read it is if I use 21GB of iPhone data, I still have 10GB of hotspot at full speed. After 1GB of hotspot, phone speed would drop because that reached 22GB, but I still have 9GB more of hotspot at full speed.

 

[thadoggfather]

Haha yep! But that looks to be promising in backing up my thought. I read the fine print and it seems to suggest what I was saying as well. 10GB of tethering comes from the 22GB pot, but using iPhone data first will not reduce your hotspot amount.

The 10GB seems to be fixed no matter what. The way I read it is if I use 21GB of iPhone data, I still have 10GB of hotspot at full speed. After 1GB of hotspot, phone speed would drop because that reached 22GB, but I still have 9GB more of hotspot at full speed.

that's ... interesting man.

that last bit in paritcular

will have to check in the morning if Autopay is set up o na credit card and if so will have to change to debit

discount excludes credit card according to the fine print

gotta read and love the fine print,

Is this credit for autopay and paperless a new thing or been going on for a while ?

 

[Mlrollin91]

that's ... interesting man.

that last bit in paritcular

will have to check in the morning if Autopay is set up o na credit card and if so will have to change to debit

discount excludes credit card according to the fine print

gotta read and love the fine print,

Is this credit for autopay and paperless a new thing or been going on for a while ?

Yep. Gotta love that fine print. Once I'm done with law school, I'll be getting to write that fine print!

And I believe it's new with this plan.

 

[boltjames]

The plan is *so new* because it's a reactionary plan haha. Revision two to new unlimited.

Whatever it is it just cut my monthly bill in half, my kids were going over their data by gobs and gobs each month, getting those nasty overage warnings x3 was causing us major relationship problems.

I had a hard drink, calmed my nerves, with trembling hands logged on to AT&T, and dumped my beloved grandfathered unlimited dataplans for the new Unlimited Plus plan, took about 5 minutes on the website. First time I have a hotspot too, love it.

Thanks again to all who gave me the courage to kill my grandfathers.

BJ

 

[thadoggfather]

Whatever it is it just cut my monthly bill in half, my kids were going over their data by gobs and gobs each month, getting those nasty overage warnings x3 was causing us major relationship problems.

I had a hard drink, calmed my nerves, with trembling hands logged on to AT&T, and dumped my beloved grandfathered unlimited dataplans for the new Unlimited Plus plan, took about 5 minutes on the website. First time I have a hotspot too, love it.

Thanks again to all who gave me the courage to kill my grandfathers.

BJ

Np! And remember if you don't see hotspot show up, restart the phone and should then appear

 

[boltjames]

Np! And remember if you don't see hotspot show up, restart the phone and should then appear

I did just that, and in the process called 611 and spoke to a very knowledgeable agent and he confirmed that the throttle limits for the iPhone and the hotspot are distinctly different from each other.

22GB in total throttles the phone, 10GB for just the hotspot throttles just the hotspot.

Thanks again for all the help.

BJ

 

[Mlrollin91]

I did just that, and in the process called 611 and spoke to a very knowledgeable agent and he confirmed that the throttle limits for the iPhone and the hotspot are distinctly different from each other.

22GB in total throttles the phone, 10GB for just the hotspot throttles just the hotspot.

Thanks again for all the help.

BJ

Glad you got that confirmation. Thats what I got this evening as well.

 

[boltjames]

Glad you got that confirmation. Thats what I got this evening as well.

Last question:

Nothing in the online process prompted me to enroll in autopay and go to paperless billing which seems odd. And when I went to the autopay enrollment screen, there was no "save $10" message there either.

Are all of you just signing up for autopay and paperless billing and waiting for the discount to appear on the bill or is there a prompt or a promo code I missed?

BJ