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I've dealt with lack of power for more than a week on 3 different occasions. Ice Storm in 97, Hurricane Rita in 2005, and Ike in 2008. You talk about miserable lol. Just imagine...no power, no air conditioner, in 98 degree Texas Heat for 2 weeks lol. No power, gas shortages, phone was useless, a lot of the food spoiled. Hurricane Ike was crazy lol. Hope to never have to go through that again.
Get solar panels. The gods cannot turn off the sun.

Pretty much this. It's a phone. Not a cure for cancer. Some people act like if they don't get their phone on launch day, their life will end or something. Talk about #FirstWorldProbs
With the power of HealthKit to aid research, the iPhone might help cure cancer. The pope certainly won't.
 
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No, my point is if you're practicing a religion, you and all of your fellow followers should support everything about your religion and not interfere with those who don't. I mentioned Steve Jobs and Apple, because they achieved everything a religion can aspire to achieve without force. If Christianity were to cost $10 a month, it would have hard time competing with Spotify, let alone Apple. I'm sincerely sorry if I went too far and said some politically incorrect things that may offend those who are sensitive to the subject.

In Germany, being an official member of the catholic church costs you a lot more than $10 a month. If you pay tax at the highest rate, it will be about 2% to 2.5% of your income.
 
Oh, so they ARE expecting ISIS, in a manner of speaking. This is in reference to my previous post where I ask incredulously are they expecting the Pope or ISIS? I need to keep up and wrap my mind on how treacherous a place the world is now.

Plenty of vicous attacks are foiled by the world's intelligence services every week, the odd few they don't and we see the consequencies on the news. You do live in a treacherous world i'm afraid.
 
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Not everyone is Catholic so not everyone cares - as it should be.
Security is fine.
Locking down entire areas? Smacks of totalatarianism and repression.
You do not know anything about "totalitarianism and repression", when the situation in New York end up like this every month for 14 years you would probably may having a taste of what "totalitarianism and repression" is:
 
I am quite sure Apple buyers are less religious than non-Apple buyers, since apple buyers have higher income than non-apple buyers, and income is negatively correlated to religiosity.

Without the rich, there is no poor, therefore, there is no correlation between rich and religiosity. There is however, correlation between rich and poor.

Jesus didn't preach the gospel to mock the rich. He simply set examples to the greedy of society either rich or poor.
 
Without the rich, there is no poor, therefore, there is no correlation between rich and religiosity. There is however, correlation between rich and poor.

Jesus didn't preach the gospel to mock the rich. He simply set examples to the greedy of society either rich or poor.

Uh..
What?
 
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Without the rich, there is no poor, therefore, there is no correlation between rich and religiosity. There is however, correlation between rich and poor.

Jesus didn't preach the gospel to mock the rich. He simply set examples to the greedy of society either rich or poor.
That's completely speculative considering that there is zero evidence that Jesus ever existed.
 
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Because I agree with what the man says. He is exactly what this country needs after the disaster of a president that we have now!

Seriously. Half the people think there is nothing good about that man (Trump) other than his hair cut. The other half don't like his hair cut either. He is admittedly rather good at putting money into his own pocket. What other competencies does he have?

Now if you are going to say "Trump is the president that the USA deserve", then I might 100% agree with you. If I'm in a nasty mood :)

The joke's probably been done already but I'm not reading any more of the train wreck.

Surprised the Pope is delaying a phone with Force Touch. Pretty sure it would be very popular among the priests.

This post unwittingly answers the question asked elsewhere why Apple changed the name from "Force Touch" to "3D Touch".
 
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Sorry to twist your mind further but I assume you won't get this: "in order to be first, you must be last."

Sorry but you should try speaking English when posting on this forum.

Your senseless drivel about Jesus made no sense and was not at all relevant to the discussion about the negative correlation between IQ/income and religiosity (e.g. that is, religious people tend to have lower income and lower IQ).
 
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Sorry but you should try speaking English when posting on this forum.

Your senseless drivel about Jesus made no sense and was not at all relevant to the discussion about the negative correlation between IQ/income and religiosity (e.g. that is, religious people tend to have lower income and lower IQ).

I'm quite curious on where you got the IQ fact.

And yes, I am gonna stop contributing to this thread already. And for your info, I am writing this in English, as well as my previous posts.
 
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So, what is relevant? Relevant is relative.

Religion is dangerous because it's exploited. Corporations are exploited, governments are exploited, society is exploited, the poor are exploited, etc. Where do you draw the line between what is relevant and what isn't? We choose to believe/trust in other concepts with less than perfect implementation (government, etc.), so why is religion any different?

Get a grip on reality? Reality as you define it? For some people, religion is a reality. If it gives them hope and a standard by which to live, why are they "unhealthy?" Until someone can conclusively prove the existence or lack of existence of God, there will be a debate.

Also, when you compare Santa Clause to God and instantly call religion (I assume you mean any religion) a "bunch of lies," you come off as angry and arrogant and your argument is already taken less seriously.

I'm not angry, I'd say I'm baffled by people's idiocy. You see, since NO ONE can ever conclusively prove the existence or lack of existence of God, every religion is ********, it's that simple.
 
No, my point is if you're practicing a religion, you and all of your fellow followers should support everything about your religion and not interfere with those who don't. I mentioned Steve Jobs and Apple, because they achieved everything a religion can aspire to achieve without force. If Christianity were to cost $10 a month, it would have hard time competing with Spotify, let alone Apple. I'm sincerely sorry if I went too far and said some politically incorrect things that may offend those who are sensitive to the subject.

Oh ok. But your point isn't anywhere in the original post.

And who could get offended? You didn't have anything to say.
 
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What a fascinating thread this is. We have had multiple concurrent discussions here about religion, religious figures, Santa Claus, surviving the aftermath of storms, insomnia and the curative powers of white noise, iPhones, city life, terrorism, poverty, totalitarianism, and last but not least, Donald Trump and his hair.

And yet I can still follow this thread with far less confusion than the one I read arguing about the Hermes Apple Watch. I think that thread will forever stand out as one of the most confusing discussions I've ever seen on the Internet, even though it stayed on topic.
 
Religion is dangerous, why should anyone respect a bunch of lies that are used to control masses and commit countless murders and atrocities? Even if we disregard this small problem, I can't see how it's healthy for people to live their lives in delusion. Wouldn't it be healthier if people grew up and got a grip on reality? Someone has to tell them that Santa (or was it God?) doesn't exist. The same goes for the people annoyed by the delay, I hope that one day they'll grow up and realize how any smartphone ever is completely irrelevant.

Proving or disproving God's existence is like arguing with someone that they love another.

It is only proven with evidence revealed to the protagonist who only has their word as evidence, and the antagonist can point to reasons that can be explained by science why they protagonist is incorrect.
 
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Adults??? There are adults who still have an imaginary friend who always loves them and always forgives them, no matter what they do? I thought people outgrew such delusionary beliefs before puberty. Surely only small children and morons believe in Santa Claus, faerie godmothers, Jesus, thimbelina, the Easter Bunny, etc.
You keep telling yourself whatever you want to believe to make you sleep better at night.

BTW if you think religions are 'delusionary' beliefs then I guess you never took a basic science class nor understand the scientific method which uses facts to break delusions. LMK when you get facts that break religions beliefs. PS: I hope you don't bring more non-sense into this conversation, you can't rely on the scientific method to disprove religion. The only moron here is the one that thinks its smarter than others and doesn't even understand the basic principles of the scientific method.
 
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