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Does Porsche have sneaky emissions software like the rest of the vw group? Maybe that's why they don't like the data collection...

Does it matter? It's not Google's job to police car emissions.

Particularly since they're biased since they're making their own car.
 
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Why does Apple need to know how fast we are going when we turn on CarPlay?
According to the article, they don't ->

"Apple's CarPlay requires to know is whether the car is accelerating while the system is being used"

All Apple cares about (per this article) is acceleration. That can be from 0 to 20 mph or 100 to 110 mph. Why? I dunno. Maybe they lock out the input when they think you are in the middle of something. FWIW, my VW nav system will not let you input location names while moving at all. FWIW: I am all for telemetrics limiting their use while the car is being driven. Pull over and take a call or schedule a dinner reservation or whatever.
 
Does Porsche have sneaky emissions software like the rest of the vw group? Maybe that's why they don't like the data collection...
VW's diesel trickery seems to be limited to their smaller diesel engines and more budget-priced cars. The diesel Passats, for example, have the urea injection system VW didn't want to install on Golfs and Jettas.
Porsches, specializing in neither budget-conscious consumers nor smaller engines, probably didn't need any of the emissions trickery on their diesel models.
 
"Whose the product? I am!" - proud Google user

Lets face it, the intersection of Android users and and Porsche drivers is not going to be that great. The vast majority of Android users are cheap. They "buy" cheap phones and use they for not much more that just that, phones. Survey after survey shows that Android user do not spend money, cheap phone, free apps, free services and hardly ever using shopping apps.
 
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Not exactly a tough choice for Porche as I'm sure 90% of their buyers are iPhone users.
 
VW's diesel trickery seems to be limited to their smaller diesel engines and more budget-priced cars. The diesel Passats, for example, have the urea injection system VW didn't want to install on Golfs and Jettas.
Porsches, specializing in neither budget-conscious consumers nor smaller engines, probably didn't need any of the emissions trickery on their diesel models.
The 2015 Golfs have urea injection. Dunno about the Jettas or Golf Sport wagons. My wife STILL got a notice from VW that her 2015 Golf is included. So either they are mass mailing everyone (I have not got the notice for my 2012 TDI) or the emissions trickery was ALSO being done on cars with urea injection. Go figure.
 
Some of this data would have included vehicle speed, throttle position, and engine revs, all points of information that would constantly be flowing back to Google's headquarters
Hold on, I've never heard about this until now. Looks like full OBD2 data. What is Google's justification for this?! I'm guessing they want statistics for Google Maps or something.
 
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Yeah I can see it already. In the future with Google next thing you know you'll get a ticket in the mail for speeding. It'll know where you were and how fast you were going. Forget that garbage!
 
Functionality is limited if the vehicle is moving for safety reasons.

One of the reasons I find it difficult to get a new car. I don't want to be limited in my own vehicle as to what I can/cannot do while operating it. That is my prerogative to make a judgement call, not Apples.
 
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Well it could allow for the system to show cool engine related stuff (matters more in non-Porsche vehicles). Basically the same cool stuff one sees in a GT-R.
 
I'm sure a very large part of this decision is to control the data about how Porsche cars are used.

It could be very damning to Porsche if user stats were every released that might increase insurance premiums ans/or decrease the desirability of the brand.

Imagine if data came out in a few years that suggested that the average Porsche driver floored the car 2x a day or 50x more than other cars, or exceeded the limit every day, etc. Thus increasing insurance rates.

Or conversely, that they are really only driven by 90% little old ladies that never use the performance. So therefore it's not desirable to align your self with that image.

Simply best to keep the data on real world useage of the cars to themselves!
 
.....I'm sure Google could easily collect all the check engine light and service data too. Which could make it easy to target future ads to those whose car is in need of service.
 
Dumb move by Google to make that information mandatory. I think personal privacy is going to continue to become a more important issue with customers and Google is not in a good position here. Last thing I want anyone knowing is my speed, breaking and driving habits. Too much like big brother if you ask me.

Google is trying to create a coherent environment without variables. Apple enforces this all over the place and often gets praised for it.

Google also has a track record of fighting requests by the government for user data unreasonably, just like Apple. And anyone naive enough to think that car companies aren't collecting this same information and selling it to insurance companies deserves to live a life curated by brownshirts. And I say this because car companies have already admitted as much.

If you think your driving, speed, etc. habits can't be gleaned from your cell phone's data connections alone, you're an idiot.

Privacy became a myth a long time ago. At least with Google you get most of the source code to look at and verify. Can't say that about Apple or Porsche.
 
Google is trying to create a coherent environment without variables. Apple enforces this all over the place and often gets praised for it.

Google also has a track record of fighting requests by the government for user data unreasonably, just like Apple. And anyone naive enough to think that car companies aren't collecting this same information and selling it to insurance companies deserves to live a life curated by brownshirts. And I say this because car companies have already admitted as much.

If you think your driving, speed, etc. habits can't be gleaned from your cell phone's data connections alone, you're an idiot.

Privacy became a myth a long time ago. At least with Google you get most of the source code to look at and verify. Can't say that about Apple or Porsche.

What???? I think you read too many conspiracy sites and I guess I'm just an idiot. :rolleyes:
 
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