That varies greatly where one is in the world. In the UK Apple Maps is very very good. In the Netherlands I found it slightly less useful.
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Yeah, if I am to use a navigation software I don’t want to have to switch depending on where I am and I would think a good navigation software should work in the EU. Google Maps works more or less anywhere while Apple Maps seems to work in a few select countries, but Apple seems content as long as it works in California since they don’t seem to be improving much.
And then we haven’t even gotten to the bugs and lack of features that Apple Maps have in CarPlay (like I cannot navigate to a contact because it suggest things like a hotel before my contacts if I search for them and it is impossible to scroll through the results due to a bug that has been there for years). I can’t press POIs on the screen in CarPlay to navigate to them for some reason, or pinch to zoom.
Hell, I might even switch to Android because Android Auto with Google Maps works so much better.
Or just clearly not surfing the Internet the past decade for upcoming EV developments.
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Tesla arguing aside, it would be nice if Apple brought EV Drive planning via maps to third parties, not OEMs. We need more alternatives, not less.
The 2017 Bolt has essentially no EV drive planning. None. what GM provides is a joke of an afterthought.
Mapping is mapping. So what if it shows me going around a circle. I’m not stupid and will ignore it. I’m not gonna drive into a lake just because GPS says to.
Show me things an EV needs: distance to the next 2 EV DCFC chargers and if the car is gonna make it. How many stations are working and available. Warnings about slowing down to make it and alternatives off the route if it can’t make it.
Tesla has the best charging navigation system in the world. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have weaknesses or need improvements.
Apple can’t get anyone to build an EV, but it’s clear they are trying to gather the pieces.
The 2017 Bolt has essentially no EV drive planning. None. what GM provides is a joke of an afterthought.
Mapping is mapping. So what if it shows me going around a circle. I’m not stupid and will ignore it. I’m not gonna drive into a lake just because GPS says to.
Show me things an EV needs: distance to the next 2 EV DCFC chargers and if the car is gonna make it. How many stations are working and available. Warnings about slowing down to make it and alternatives off the route if it can’t make it.
Tesla has the best charging navigation system in the world. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have weaknesses or need improvements.
Apple can’t get anyone to build an EV, but it’s clear they are trying to gather the pieces.
it means something, you try using apple or google map on a iphone 6, no matter how great the software is if the hardware is not up to task the overall experience is still crap. brands like range rover are known for horrid laggy draggy interface for using underperforming processors.
hardware is just as much importance to overall integration as software. tesla software is pretty robust in all these key areas you labelled. the only complaint i have is the drop down list when i type in a store.
that is down to individual anecdotal. i used both android and carplay at one point or another in rental/lease. and i personally don't care for any extra bell and whistle that they might/might not have over tesla. so for me tesla system is on par if not better due to the tight integration between the car and the software.
really, is that why model Y is the leading sold EV by a huge margin literally in every major car market 😄
lol bullocks mate, i'm 6'4 175lb, i'm as tall slim european build as you get, and i have no headroom or seating issues in my model y. sure the interior can be a tad more luxury, but given how great autopilot is, whatever infriority tesla has compared to my merc s class can be forgiven.
sure, but i didn't buy my first EV based on these side brownie points you mentioned. yes my 2023 model y has slight panel gap issues with the dashboard that i have a appt with tesla to get it corrected, but any serious buyers would first look at the range it offers, the robust charging network, and lastly the driving dynamic. tesla pretty much got a very good formula going and their market share dominance is a clear indication of that.
not true, you need good hardware in order to have a fluid and responsive touch interface, just try using apple or google map on a iphone 6.
I have no doubt BMW will find a way to screw it up and make it an 18-trip-to-the-dealer-service-because-you-don’t-have-the-“special tool”-and-no-one-else-does kind of fix that is classic BMW.
Taycan is a nice EV but I'd rather have a Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo if I was spending Porsche sedan/wagon money.
Edit: forgot that they also make a Taycan Cross Turismo (just looked at the website). Still not high on 100k+ EVs at this point in the EV market...they're too disposable still.
Edit: forgot that they also make a Taycan Cross Turismo (just looked at the website). Still not high on 100k+ EVs at this point in the EV market...they're too disposable still.
I was wondering the same too. Like why does the EV feature have to be tethered to an EV? I suppose it might be because Maps wants to know how much charge is left and how much charge the EV uses per mile in order to make its calculations? Not sure.
But you could easily get that info from an OBD dongle, which Apple could even sell. It's stupid that Apple won't just enable this for any EV.
You don't have to be privileged/elite to have HEARD of the Taycan, wow, weird analogy.
Wait, what? You don't think Tesla is motivated to improve things? So you've not enjoyed any (ANY??) of the new features added to your vehicle since purchase via OTA? Tesla is always improving, always. As for motivation to improve, are OEM's that don't have OTA's motivated to improve? I don't disagree that praising everything is not the best course of action, but the thinking that Tesla is not motivated to improve is what I don't agree with.
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Just what does CarPlay do that you miss so much in the Tesla? Maybe I was missing some feature in CarPlay, but for me the Tesla does what I used CarPlay for, and is better integrated into the car, and no need to plug my phone in.
I did rent a Toyota this year that had wireless CarPlay, but it lagged so bad I would alway end up plugging the phone in anyway.
iPhone 6 can run maps perfectly fine on the iOS it was launched with. A good interface can be designed well around hardware limitations (e.g. taps vs swipes, less animations etc). Teslas only have a powerful GPU because it's a side benefit of their self driving hardware. It could achieve the same fluidity with much less.
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i'm 100% sure there are plenty of complaints about the car and the software that Tesla is working on. routing however isn't a problem among many owners.
1. they switched off NVIDIA's solution a while ago and are actively swapping out for their own custom solution
2. their self driving chips aren't used in rendering infotainment UI
Oh come on, at the time of an iPhone 6 it worked just fine. Sure if you retrospectively do comparisons with current generations you may notice a difference, but only during setting up, once you are underway there really is no difference.
I use CarPlay in my Range Rover 5.0SC and nope, no draggy interface at all.
Android Auto is not the same as Android Automotive Operating System, you are talking and comparing to something totally different.
So we don't disagree, sure there is no denying that in some markets Tesla has the leading marketshare especially with model Y and 3. But just because they have that doesn't mean they are the best. Hence I made the parallel with Toyota before, they have the same in many markets (or Kia/Huyndai etc). But that is because they are cheap, nasty, somewhat perceived as desireable by the massess who generally don't care about cars that much. They just want something that goes A-2-B and works. Nothing wrong with that, but one of the many reasons I really don't like Tesla as they play in that market with the race to the bottom for the cheapest. The moment you compete on price, you know that you've lost all desireability.
I did, no context, all posted by Tesla people looking at their usernames. It doesn't mean anything, and I explained the context several times now.
"no reason why for mapping that is the case"
and then proceeds to ignore the tweet shows maps performing too slow to be used normally
ok we're done. i can't continue anymore. have a good one.
@tripsync You seem to apply a bit of selective quoting to just further your purpose. If you make such a statement about someone else, then please have the decency to quote in its entirety and not just what suits you.
As I mentioned, there is no context to those scenarios that you've linked to, just posts by twitter handles of individuals when looking at their profiles that they are rather enthusiastic about 'their' brand. There is no context regarding the scenario, that the network connectivity was like, what the mobile network speeds is, which version, where in the world, what they actually were trying to proof by just rapidly moving stuff on the screen (do you do that often whilst driving?). And so on.
Let's have an adult discussion and include all the facts, not just the ones that suit you.
there is a huge difference, i used to ride with someone who has a iphone 7 for her car navigation only, and the amount of time we had to stop cause apple map or google map bugged out was very frequent. now apply this to all the VW and Kia out there that has subpar infotainment system.
as for Rovers, the dealership charged my family member 300 bucks just to update the software, and even then the bluetooth kept getting disconnected rendering the wireless carplay feature almost useless.
tesla is not a cheap car, 50k to start on the Y and 40k for the 3. sure they had their recent price slash but they doing that to gain marketshare, if you want to name a brand that is racing towards the bottom is kia/hyundai, their ioniq range is a whole class below what tesla offers and one test drive confirms that. the same can be said about VW's ID range.
people don't buy tesla cause of price, i sure as hell didn't. folks are choosing tesla cause the superior combination of range/charging stations, and the best hardware/software integration. but most importantly, how well tesla's AP is. sure the basic AP is pretty much lane keeping and advance cruise control, but tesla does it better than anyone else i seen. and once you step up to FSD, tesla is pretty much in a league of itself. their HW4 with 5 mp setup is already miles ahead of even lucid whom i test drove the other day.