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Possible 'iPhone 12' Battery Certifications Suggest Lower Capacities Than iPhone 11 Series
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Next month, we will see a rumor about at bigger battery, and all the people screaming how they will not buy this phone with a smaller battery will be screaming because they will not buy a bigger phone. Why can't Apple make everything else smaller to fit around the bigger battery, they'll ask.
Then in September, Apple announces the phones with the same capacity batteries, and the same people who screamed they wouldn't buy a phone with a smaller battery, and they wouldn't buy a phone with a larger battery, will scream how they won't buy this phone as it isn't a big enough upgrade.
Then, in October, they will post pics of their shiny new iPhones.
Then, in December, they will announce they are leaving for android and we will never see them again (again).
Then, in January, they will flame whatever rumor starts up the next iteration of iPhone.
Its like watching the same six episodes of a TV show being remade into a new show that gets cancelled after 6 episodes. In the 2021 reboot, we should gender-bend one of the posters. Who wants to be recast as a eunuch? Also, I think a talking animal would liven things up. Any takers on the role of a talking porcupine?
Then in September, Apple announces the phones with the same capacity batteries, and the same people who screamed they wouldn't buy a phone with a smaller battery, and they wouldn't buy a phone with a larger battery, will scream how they won't buy this phone as it isn't a big enough upgrade.
Then, in October, they will post pics of their shiny new iPhones.
Then, in December, they will announce they are leaving for android and we will never see them again (again).
Then, in January, they will flame whatever rumor starts up the next iteration of iPhone.
Its like watching the same six episodes of a TV show being remade into a new show that gets cancelled after 6 episodes. In the 2021 reboot, we should gender-bend one of the posters. Who wants to be recast as a eunuch? Also, I think a talking animal would liven things up. Any takers on the role of a talking porcupine?
But the only competition Apple has is with Android, which has notoriously bad standby battery drain. Android phones beats iPhones during actual usage due to its larger capacity, but nobody stares at their phone for 8 hours straight. They stare at it for like 2 minutes at a time before going on standby.
With this advantage, Apple can give the illusion of better battery life, which is more important than actually having better battery life.
Why should Apple go out of their way to improve experience and destroy their own margins when no one is challenging them? Do you know how businesses are run?
I read many years ago that Apple does not do focus groups.
Battery size, capacity and life are different things. If Apple has a smaller die on its SoC and maybe optimised battery consumption, a smaller battery capacity could easily mean the same or even better battery life.
Apple always had quite less RAM and battery capacity yet still manages to compete with Android due to their optimisation.
Just like I always have the feeling 60 Hz on OnePlus devices could have lower input latency but instead of optimising 60 Hz they throw in 90 Hz to decrease its latency while still not optimising the kernel. Their philosophy seems to throw in new shiny hardware numbers while leaving their trails of bugs and missing optimisations behind. Apple does the opposite and chooses to spend less on big hardware numbers but more on software to increase their profit margin after all.
Apple always had quite less RAM and battery capacity yet still manages to compete with Android due to their optimisation.
Just like I always have the feeling 60 Hz on OnePlus devices could have lower input latency but instead of optimising 60 Hz they throw in 90 Hz to decrease its latency while still not optimising the kernel. Their philosophy seems to throw in new shiny hardware numbers while leaving their trails of bugs and missing optimisations behind. Apple does the opposite and chooses to spend less on big hardware numbers but more on software to increase their profit margin after all.
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Excellent post, and I agree with everything, especially the part about increasing their profit margins.
That makes zero sense. (Real) Apple shareholders are never happy when customers are upset.
And where are Apple customers going to go? To Android? LOL...
Face it, Apple is in an enviable position of being the abusive person whose partner keeps coming back.
I bet Apple can put in a 500 mAH battery for the next iPhone and they'll still smash sales records.
No lightning or USB-C or other connection port is going to bite then in the butt. If the phone gets in some funky state - there'll be no connecting it to a computer to try and bust out of it. Then what? Take it to the Apple Store or send it in? People can't be without their phones any more.....Apple Pay, using it for 2FA, etc.
Not my 6S. It has two battery modes - “mayfly” and “Higgs Boson”...Actually, the iPhone has the best battery life. Make a little research.
Man, I haven't read any positive rumors about the 12 series, I hope it's not as lackluster as it sounds like it's gonna be. I'm on the upgrade program with the 11 Pro Max and I really don't want to upgrade to a phone with less battery life. I am still at 100% maximum capacity with my battery since launch because I only need to charge it overnight.
The rumour mill threw up the prospect of a 4G-only 12 5.4" with an LCD screen, so the 2,227 mAh Li-ion may well be destined for that model. A 2,227 mAh for an LCD phone with a chassis smaller than the 6/6s/7/8/SE 2 isn't all that bad - it's 300 to 400 mAh more capacious than the 1,800-1,900 mAh batteries typical to the slightly larger 6/6s/7/8/SE 2 form factor, and the software optimizations that will accompany the 5 nm A14 will also help with battery life.
The 5G 12 5.4" with an OLED, on the other hand, might be the intended model for the 2,775 mAh battery. The next step up would be the 3,687 mAh for the 6.1" 12 Max and the 12 Pro, while there may well be a 4,400~ mAh in the works for the 6.7" Pro Max.
I don't think there's cause for alarm... yet. We have no indication as to whether the leak that has sparked all this hysteria offers a comprehensive overview of the entire battery line-up. It would be extremely foolish on Apple's part to offer a near-4k mAh option for the 11 Pro Max only to dial back the capacity on the even bigger, 5G-equipped 12 Pro Max. Nothing about it makes sense at all, so the logical conclusion is that there are other battery sizes in the works.
The 5G 12 5.4" with an OLED, on the other hand, might be the intended model for the 2,775 mAh battery. The next step up would be the 3,687 mAh for the 6.1" 12 Max and the 12 Pro, while there may well be a 4,400~ mAh in the works for the 6.7" Pro Max.
I don't think there's cause for alarm... yet. We have no indication as to whether the leak that has sparked all this hysteria offers a comprehensive overview of the entire battery line-up. It would be extremely foolish on Apple's part to offer a near-4k mAh option for the 11 Pro Max only to dial back the capacity on the even bigger, 5G-equipped 12 Pro Max. Nothing about it makes sense at all, so the logical conclusion is that there are other battery sizes in the works.
Yes the 2,227 mAh for the 5.4” iPhone is not actually that bad to be honest, could be better but its ok. If it’s 4G only then that’s perfect for me also, as not interested in 5g at this stage. Like you said with the A14 and software optimisations, the battery should last 2 days for me like my SE.
edit - hang on, just realised you said LCD screen, very interesting indeed.
LCD for the 4G 5.4" (2,227 mAh), OLED for the 5G 5.4" (2,775 mAh). I mean that's the only thing that makes sense.
And if there is a non-premium (LCD and 4G-only) 5.4", then logic dictates there will be an LCD and 4G-only 6.1" to directly succeed the XR and 11. I'm not sure what the battery capacity will be on that one.
The more concerning thing Is that these will support 5G, and those battery capacities are not ideal
5G will consume more power than any gains in SOC efficiency to 5nm, and keep in mind the SOC is Not staying stagnant in performance, It is rumoured to have a significant transistor increase this generation.
I am sure they will be fine in terms of battery life, in terms of all day use, but I have doubts they will last longer than the current generation of iPhones, iPhone SE 2020 aside
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To be fair, that is a toss up - I understand it highlights the point of efficiency, but 30 mins longer battery life isn’t a headliner. Certainly not like the “4 hours longer” battery of the 11 Pro over the XS, which also had the same 7nm process on the A13 as the A12
5G will consume more power than any gains in SOC efficiency to 5nm, and keep in mind the SOC is Not staying stagnant in performance, It is rumoured to have a significant transistor increase this generation.
I am sure they will be fine in terms of battery life, in terms of all day use, but I have doubts they will last longer than the current generation of iPhones, iPhone SE 2020 aside
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To be fair, that is a toss up - I understand it highlights the point of efficiency, but 30 mins longer battery life isn’t a headliner. Certainly not like the “4 hours longer” battery of the 11 Pro over the XS, which also had the same 7nm process on the A13 as the A12
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Is it possible there are two batteries in the 12 series? like how the X did? maybe a smaller 500or 1000 mah? Battery tech does get better each year at cramming more storage in smaller space/form factor.. so is it possible there's a base battery in all models and supplemental?
It would surprise me to see a battery drop in capacity without a substantial drop in size and weight.... if if this really is the single battery in the new models, then we should get a fairly notable size/weight drop across all devices.
with that said - my 11 pro has always lasted a full day of use and have plenty left over... so I could absorbe a 10% loss in battery life.. but that's about it.
It would surprise me to see a battery drop in capacity without a substantial drop in size and weight.... if if this really is the single battery in the new models, then we should get a fairly notable size/weight drop across all devices.
with that said - my 11 pro has always lasted a full day of use and have plenty left over... so I could absorbe a 10% loss in battery life.. but that's about it.
At first, the X felt notably different than the 6 I upgraded from. However, I don't think the iPhone X is too heavy, and the weight gives the device a more solid, durable feeling.
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If only the majority of people complaining about Apple products in these forums were actual customers.
For the few that are no change will make everyone happy. If they made the phone thicker with larger battery someone here would swear they're never buying another iPhone. If they made the phone thinner with a smaller battery someone here would swear they're never buying another iPhone.
The only thing Apple can do is make a product that they feel the majority of their customers will like. So far they've succeeded in that by a large margin.
Nice! My launch day XS Max is STILL at 100%. Only 3 more payments and it's all mine. It'll make a great backup phone for whatever i decide to get come October.
If these “rumors” are true, I won’t be buying a 5G phone with a smaller battery... though... those square sides .... I’d love to be able to use my phone nekid again.
The battery life on the 11 series is really great. My wife and I have the 11 Pro Max and I can go for days without having to charge mine.
A smaller battery definitely would have my attention. But I don’t think there are many people like me.
The battery life on the 11 series is really great. My wife and I have the 11 Pro Max and I can go for days without having to charge mine.
A smaller battery definitely would have my attention. But I don’t think there are many people like me.