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Not a fan of the rear touch ID, but I do like that it seems to have a flat screen.

However, the corner of the display being so close to the corner of the phone looks a bit odd with the two having different radii. I'm hoping Apple will somewhat curve the corners of the display to make it blend in better.
 
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Are the Touch ID and camera far enough apart for the people here who don't have fine motor control over their sausage fingers? lol.
 
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This better be a hoax. If Apple thought the negative reactions to the nMBP were bad, just wait until they release this monstrosity.
 
Well the GOOD NEWS is that a lot of us will have something to look forward to when the technology is finally ready on the 8s...when I'm ready to trade in my 7 Plus
 
Was it? I thought he was involved with the 6?

Depends who you ask. He was certainly involved with the 5 series, and likely wasn't unaware that Apple were prototyping larger screened iPhones and NFC payments.

I've heard people who don't know better use the iPhone 5 as proof Apple is in trouble without Steve because it was such a boring update!
 
Well this is interesting in all this: https://www.behance.net/gallery/46707925/iPhone-X-concept-(Updated-2017)

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Not mine but it has the camera going the other way.
 
Samsung Galaxy S8 is bad design. I'm going by experience here having used an S7 Edge. Bad experience (accidental touches everywhere) but just looks great and the S8 will be no different. Like Steve Jobs once said design is more about how it "works" not just how it looks, the latter is exactly what the S8 goes by on and what it thinks (and many others think) is great design.


Whether the S8 design is bad is certainly your opinion.

How long did you use the S7 Edge? Were you an iPhone user prior to that?

There are many variables when moving from one design philosophy to another, and certainly a learning curve in most cases, I'd say.

My teenage kids LOVE their S7Edges, and they were coming from iPhone, and were given the option to stay Apple and jumped at the chance to switch.

If we're going to go with Steve's design philosophy, then the (current) iPhone needs to be shot in the head. Android (devices) solved many of its design problems and Apple STILL hasn't addressed many of them.
 
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This looks like something Tim Cook would approve. The iPhone 5 was the last iPhone design Steve was personally involved in. Even today it is the gold standard in smartphone design.

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Heck, I had forgotten how good it looked. It looks great even compared to the current smartphones from any company. The definition of industrial design.
 
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When are people,going to stop getting excited about the shape of a smartphone!? It's like talking about the shape of a TV set.
 
EW... That's unbelievably ugly. Really hoping it's a scrapped design...
 
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there have already been reports that, while this is one of the designs, Apple chose not to go with it due to the finger print sensor being in an awkward location.
 
LOL! This will be another out dated release before its released. LOLOL! Apple is once again looking at "milking" a design. Now this could be fruitful if only the design was something new and fresh which in this case is not, and regardless if this rendering holds to be true we already know that it won't be until the year 2025 by the time Apple escapes from the bezels from its products which by the time our mobile phones will be fully automated robots that will most likely also be able to fly like pocket drones. I mean seriously why on earth is Apple so far behind on things? Maybe they took a time machine back to 1985 or something.
 
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They'll probably justify this by say something like "You can unlock your phone when face down, with the fingerprint scanner on the back, or from the front with our all new Iris Scanner! Twice as convenient!"
 
Played with the Galaxy 8 and 8 plus the other day. Curved glass on those models gave me a headache. Rear Touch ID doesn't work for me either because it limits case choices. So I'm hoping the OLED iPhone has neither of things. Otherwise I'll just hold on to my 7.
 
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Rear touch ID? Curved edges? No & no. I will pass.

I think curved edges could be ok but not necessary. The one thing I miss about my iphone 5S and galaxy s6 is having the touch id on the front. Very inconvenient having it on the back both when using on a flat surface or just trying to find it blindly.
 
If Apple released a phone without smaller top and bottom bezels they would be killed in the media and people would be talking about how some no name Chinese brand can release a phone with smaller bezels but Apple can't. I can already see the posts here that Tim needs to be fired and Apple is doomed and I'm getting a Samsung.

For me personally if they move Touch ID to the back of the phone I'll keep my iPhone 7 and hope it was only temporary placement.

Temporary in the grand scheme of things, but still a most definitive deal for anyone who bought it, and a glaring inconsistency in their line-up. Kind of like the USB-only 12'' Retina MacBook (which still doesn't have a Thunderbolt 3 port), the 5K iMac (which still doesn't support Target Display Mode because the standalone [mini-]DisplayPort spec it uses still doesn't have enough bandwidth for that), the first-generation unibody MacBook (that obviously should've began its life as a Pro model and featured a FW800 port, removable battery be damned, duh), or even the two-port 2016 13'' MacBook Pro (I'm willing to bet that if they will come up with a 15'' F-keys model, they are probably coming up with a 13'' F-keys model with four ports as well, and soon), just to name a few oddities in Apple's long history of oddities, road Apples and lemons.

But all those oddities notwithstanding, they managed to keep the iPhone (and iPad!) line very cohesive throughout the years. And much like Apple stood their ground and refrained from putting out models with larger screens (and other different kinds of tech like, say, Bluetooth earphones) for quite a while until they got it right, I'd rather see them wait another year than going after the latest, greatest, newfangled thing just because “Samsung did it first” (what if Samsung got it wrong and came up with an overall uglier, less polished device regardless of its superior tech? Sure, that near bezel-less scree on the S8 looks very cool, but I already played with it for a while and I felt that its curved edges are stupid and useless as hell, the case looks ugly as sin – yes, it does… even though it's probably made out of metal, its finish feels warm to the touch and plasticky, its curves don't feel right, and all the buttons and cutouts are, as usual per Samsung's “design language”, grossly misaligned and badly proportioned – and the fingerprint reader on the back is, to put it nicely, unfriendly; the whole thing feels wrong, as if it wasn't really designed but instead put together haphazardly).

Give me an internally-upgraded iPhone 7S (or even an upgraded iPhone 5/5S/SE-sized device, with a redesigned exterior case, upgraded internals and 3D Touch/Taptic Engine) over this prototype (or a Samsung/Android monstrosity) any time of the day. For all of Apple's weird and debatable design decisions (antenna lines, I'm looking at you), they surely felt much more thought-out than even the “prettiest” of Samsung (or even, say, Microsoft, which has been doing interesting stuff lately) devices, and this would really mark a departure from the Apple of old. The Apple that wasn't afraid of selling you the same Mac, the same iPod and the same iPhone design for years on end, because it just worked right. Hence me referring to this as a “Mac Pro moment”, something they are apparently doing just to prove they can “innovate”.
 
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render folks...it's called a render

highly unlikely it will look like this. i'm sure apple have plenty of different ideas what the new phone will look like
 
You mean like something that looks like an actual product and not a cad drawing?


Nooooo. I make CAD drawings for a living so I can seeeee as others with "eyes" that the CAD drawing shows a metal case, not a separate GLASS back, a prominent fingerprint reader on the back as well a reposition of the flash. VERY DIFFERENT.

Like I said; details matter.
Certainly mattered in making the iPhone 7 look so much nicer than the 6 series.
 
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