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Don't know why anyone is shocked that the SE will be 16GB for the base model. It's the lower-end entry level device so of course it's only going to start at 16GB if the 6S flagship starts at 16GB.

Apple will keep peddling 16GB as long as enough people keep buying them. It then keeps people like us who post on MR paying $100 more for the 64GB. All about the profits.
 
Me selling phone and getting new one sets me off $200 or so, Apple making 32gb default is $5, why is Apple greedy after 9 years of 16gb and the rest of the industry already at 32gb?

Because they can and there is no penalty for them not to.
It makes perfect business sense to squeeze every last drop of blood, er, profit out of the turnips.
 
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Um...

The girlfriend at the time was a little less than pleased...

But I did have a spectacular head crash on one of the RK-06 drives. It was AWESOME!!! Sounded like a washing machine in fast spin being dragged behind a truck at highway speed! :eek:o_O Chunks of head all over the place inside. Those heads were the size of large postage stamps too. It actually bent the end of the actuator arm the heads were attached to. Apparently those 'Archaic-Ohh-Six' drives were widely known to head crash, and one of mine coincidentally did.

The 'Owners Manual' for both DEC systems had wire-wrap diagrams from actual working blueprints, with corrections on them by hand! That was back in the 'romantic times' of computing... :) And sadly, long gone...:( (The then new wife 'misplaced' my box of PDP disk platters, head fragments, and punk rock memorabilia when we were moving)
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Are they paying homage for an earlier time? I didn't mean to trash 16gb as hard as I apparently did. One would think that they WOULD up the minimum to something like the aforementioned 32gb for not other reason than the size of future OS installations. (How much does the OS take off the top now?)

I remember the old days when people would say that Windows 'x' would run on a 486 with 256M RAM, but that was only using Solitaire!

You didn't do anything the forum just meshed my two post together. The second half wasn't for you if you know what I mean.
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Yep, and Apple is laughing all the way to the overseas bank.

Jerks.
 
:D

I'm a 'He'. Always have been. I guess I'm not much of a 'princess'. Long story really short: No other username I could think of would work. I've thought of changing it, but I really went through almost a dozen, not realizing they were all so outrageously fantastic that they would already be used. So this one was desperation/frustration, and it's stuck.

I even had someone flirt with me a few years ago. This princess is packing...:eek:

But, on a physics basis, does memory increase in weight when things are written to it? Interesting question, but yeah, if there were a weight gain, the amount would be so far into the quantum mechanics realm, it would be worth talking about, short of a 'Huh. Really?' basis. I'd say no weight gain at all... Possibly a charge change over the entire chip, but no weight change. (Hey, give me a break. It's Thursday and I've been stuck cleaning all day)
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What new 5k thunderbolt display?

Sorry, Mr. Goddess!

Re weight of data: I'm certainly no expert, but I remember reading an internet conversation between a couple of geeks who seemed to know what they were talking about, and apparently there is a tiny difference in weight between, say, a full hard disk and an empty one. It's obviously measured in ridiculously tiny measures, if not at the atomic level.
 
Sorry, Mr. Goddess!

Re weight of data: I'm certainly no expert, but I remember reading an internet conversation between a couple of geeks who seemed to know what they were talking about, and apparently there is a tiny difference in weight between, say, a full hard disk and an empty one. It's obviously measured in ridiculously tiny measures, if not at the atomic level.
Wow, at the atomic bit level a "1" weighs more than a "0". Whoda thunk?
 
Don't know why anyone is shocked that the SE will be 16GB for the base model. It's the lower-end entry level device so of course it's only going to start at 16GB if the 6S flagship starts at 16GB.

Apple will keep peddling 16GB as long as enough people keep buying them. It then keeps people like us who post on MR paying $100 more for the 64GB. All about the profits.
Spot on dude
 
Well if iphone se is going to have a base storage of 16gb then hopefully iphone 7 will have 32gb as its base storage.
 
Don't flame me. But I can live with 16GB storage.
Same here. I don't take many photos, I've no interest in video, and I download'n'delete podcasts. But in a couple of years' time 16GB will be an increasingly difficult second hand sell, and if I tried to give it to either of my kids she'd turn round and say "what am I supposed to do with THAT?!?"
 
Complaining about 16GB and buy something else that does provide better value is perfectly fine.
Not having issue with 16GB is fine also.

But I don't understand the point of complaining up and down about 16GB (ignoring the fact that higher storage options existed) and yet still buy it anyway. I am curious where do these people live, a world where the only option for a smartphone is a 16GB iPhone. That's kinda sad. Maybe it's a market opportunity for other OEMs to enter. :D
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Same here. I don't take many photos, I've no interest in video, and I download'n'delete podcasts. But in a couple of years' time 16GB will be an increasingly difficult second hand sell, and if I tried to give it to either of my kids she'd turn round and say "what am I supposed to do with THAT?!?"
Well that's a different problem right? When you buy the 16GB iPhone, for you, the price for the GB is appropriate. That's what recorded in Apple's book, the sales to you, and it meets your demand. Whether or not somebody else that want to buy it from you think it's not enough is your problem in pricing your second hand unit.
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The rest of the industry already offers 32gb default, I'm arguing there is no reason other than greed for Apple not to offer 32gb default to improve the experience of mainstream users.
Luckily, there are great alternatives out there. Google is selling Nexus 5X 32GB for $399. This is the beauty of free market. A greedy company can be left behind as people would simply buy the better option.

So, stop buying the freaking iPhone if you think it's not a good value for you. ;)
It's not that hard, really. I decided to not buy the 5S nor the 6 since after the iPhone 5, I want my next phone to have at least 2GB of RAM. Easy. Buy what you want.
 
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16G: Yes very likely
very low priced iphone: very unlikely

Look at how iphone 5c is priced...
 
Don't want the 16GB iPhone? Don't buy it.

Apple will continue to sell it because profit margins. The entry level 16GB option sells the best and will continue to be well into 2020. There's no escape. If less people opted for it and instead purchased the next in line 64GB version then Apple may reconsider.
 
Or, they could just see that there is more demand for 64 and 128GB model, and produce more of those while keeping the pricing the same. Of they could just get rid of 16GB model, without any changes in price. I mean in the end, people are still paying the same amount of money right?

They know there is more demand for the 64 and 128 gig models. But by making the base model useless, they encourage people to pay an extra $100 or 200 for $5 or $10 worth of flash memory.

If a 32 gig model existed as the base model for the same price, they'd sell a lot more of those and lose all their extra profits.
 
9to5 has just reported new sources that the 5se will be same exact design as 5s and visibly you won't be able to tell the difference. The only change will the the internals, camera and will shoot 4K video. Same 16GB and 64GB and same colors.

I think this is basically true as 5s cases will fit 5se. I wonder with the new internals if battery will be better on 5se.
 
Re weight of data: I'm certainly no expert, but I remember reading an internet conversation between a couple of geeks who seemed to know what they were talking about, and apparently there is a tiny difference in weight between, say, a full hard disk and an empty one. It's obviously measured in ridiculously tiny measures, if not at the atomic level.
Any lady would notice the difference. And if the difference is in the negative, you better notice it too.

On a little bit more serious note, there has been tests done on people leaving their body and the after the moment of departure the body becomes measurably lighter, and no it's not due to the air in the lungs.
 
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