DPazdanISU said:i heard that some of the people that got to test the first PB G5s for a few months can't have kids now...Apple is rumored to suggest icepacks in ur pants during use
You mean dry ice packs, right?
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You mean dry ice packs, right?
deputy_doofy said:
Yes, there is. Check the iBook page's source code. See any reference to Avenue A or the 1-pixel gif file at the bottom? That entire section exists on the Power Mac G5, the XServe G5, and the iMac G5, but not on the G4 products.
We also checked out the Internet Archive (archive.org) and found that the section didn't exist at ALL back in May.
It could be a typo, yes. But it could also be something more. It's really anybody's guess now.
Personally, I suspect it IS meant to be in preparation of the G5 Powerbook, but that still doesn't mean that such a product will be coming next week. They may be planning much farther in advance.
Regardless of the veracity of the link on the webpage, it is certainly in Apple's best interest to get the G5 into a PB as soon as they can. The first rev PB G5 might only reach 1.7GHz processor speed. This means performance will likely be similar to the existing PB's and regardless of the Megahertz myth and purely from a marketing perspective there is no way the PB will be released with a slower processor than the latest G4 PB. So if a 1.7GHz G4 rev is released, the top model G5 PB must be at least 1.8GHz. Every increment in processor speed in the current lineup is just raising the bar for the PB G5.
In the interests of winding up the PB G5 rumour mill and generally just helping Apple out of a bind, maybe we should petition Apple not to release any more G4 PB revs.
In the interests of winding up the PB G5 rumour mill and generally just helping Apple out of a bind, maybe we should petition Apple not to release any more G4 PB revs.
Pringolian said:The problem they have got is they forgot to buy the advertising space and they are not listed on the ad list. I bet Steves kickin himself.
Nah, they don't really need the Super Bowl any more. I'd thought they might advertise there too, until someone pointed out that they're not on the list of advertisers. But the fact of the matter is that they really don't need to. Look at the iMac G5. It wasn't released at MWSF *or* WWDC, and it's become their biggest seller. It stands to reason that the PowerBook G5 is actually not as big a deal. The iMac is, after all, the machine that brought Apple back from the brink. So maybe we're wrong to say that there's no way Apple would release a Powerbook G5 until WWDC.
That's not to say that a Powerbook G5 wouldn't be immensely popular, but it'll be interesting to see the sales numbers in comparison with those of the iMac G5.
Does this mean that my almost year old powerbook will be outdated Oh well, I was top-notch for a while eh.
Oh well, I was top-notch for a while eh.Caiwyn said:
At this stage (after 100's of PB Forums) it's becoming increasingly more complicated to form an opinion on Apples ideas/motives. Most of the posts on here have an element of truth/reasoning behind them and I semi-agree with everybodys point of view BUT I can't help but think there is something 'fishy' going on with the PowerBook line. The longest time to update a PBook ever? Random statements coming from the Apple giants, leaked documents, weird HTML slip ups, endless typos.
I think we all need to take a break and grasp reality. The PowerBook updates are not happening until Apple say so...
We have absolutely no real idea of when this is going to happen, their is so little news on the revisions that, this leads me to be even more suspicious. (TSecret originally said the updates would happen at MWSF, it's been and gone and now they have extended their deadline too. They have no idea for a change. Just like the god dam rest of us)
PowerBook Rev Anonymous - Check me in too!
Caiwyn said:
Exactly. Like any other "premium" company, Apple has cutting edge (in design if not always performance) products, and though they would love to advertise the showiest (PowerMac, PowerBook) ones, the bulk of their money is made on more moderate sales. Everyone would love to have a nice Lexus, but Toyota sells a lot more cars and makes more money. Apple's pro lineup attracts customers, but the consumers buy the ones with the smaller price tags. Both are well made and share most of the same parts, but the less stylish one gives a little less performance for substantial price savings. The best-performing cars still have to obey speed limits and traffic laws, and similarly most computer users stick to practical software (Internet, messaging, mail, photos/videos, music, word processing, etc.) that is equally non-taxing on the best hardware money can buy. That said, there are the car racers among us, that need and breathe the performance of our machines.
In this way, it would make sense for Apple to advertise at big events like the Super Bowl OR just to release at a random time. Apple certainly doesn't rely on the PowerBook for its sales (even at the last update, it wasn't their most popular or profitable product, but it was the sexiest).
With stories and media attention piling up, it would make sense to have a special event for the PowerBook. No mention of it at MWSF is in line with the theme of the keynote: lower priced hardware, iLife, new mass appeal products. A PowerBook announcement would have been out of character at this event, and also might have stolen too much of that media blitz that has made the Mac mini and iPod shuffle so well-known.
is this HONESTLY worthy of the front page? It's that flimsy, and people's comments are that predictable... (including my own).
however, the typo idea is kinda funny, too. I mean, what would happen if the typo went the other way, G3 instead of G5? Or G6, that would have HILARIOUS speculation...
however, the typo idea is kinda funny, too. I mean, what would happen if the typo went the other way, G3 instead of G5? Or G6, that would have HILARIOUS speculation...
Hehe yep! Maybe Jesus himself will be at the launch?!Mechcozmo said:
In the meantime, don't be worried about the performance of your G4 iB's and PB's people! OS X still runs well enough on them doesn't it? Well, that's what the adverts tell me anyway...
t500 said:Hey, This story made it to Cnet.com News section. Could it be true?
I hope so but i don't know how they can cool the G5 in such a small space.
Maybe Joswiak knows more about it
During Paris Expo last year (September), I had I had a chance, together with my friend (a journalist) to talk with Mr. Joswiak. Quite nice guy, indeed, willing to talk about everything, both successes and failures Apple made through the years. On the question what's the next challenge for PowerBook line (upgrading to better proc), he said that it's definitely thermal issues ... BUT, that they're working on two different solutions to cope with that.
One of them is so called "liquid cooling' (I don't know what that means in PowerBook terms and how it's executed) on which guys from GM are working together with Apple engineers. They were on contract, and that they had two more months to finish last details. In other words, if Mr. Joswiak is correct and not just making jokes with the press, the fully working model of a liquid cooled PowerBook G5 was made somewhere in October/November 2004.
He also mentioned the other way of cooling the system, which is a variation of more traditional approach (fans) together with some new inventions from Apple. Well, I don't know what that means, but it seems that for this product, they've decided to go safe way -- to do 2 working prototypes, based on two completely different cooling systems and to examine which one brings better results in everyday use.
He also didn't specify what G5 they're going to use -- if that's a low-power derivative of an IBM 970(XY) processor, or something else from Motorola (or whoever else). So, it could be anything. Hope we'll see that soon.
Blame me for this one, but that's what happened in Paris.
sjpetry said:
During Paris Expo last year (September), I had I had a chance, together with my friend (a journalist) to talk with Mr. Joswiak. Quite nice guy, indeed, willing to talk about everything, both successes and failures Apple made through the years. On the question what's the next challenge for PowerBook line (upgrading to better proc), he said that it's definitely thermal issues ... BUT, that they're working on two different solutions to cope with that.
One of them is so called "liquid cooling' (I don't know what that means in PowerBook terms and how it's executed) on which guys from GM are working together with Apple engineers. They were on contract, and that they had two more months to finish last details. In other words, if Mr. Joswiak is correct and not just making jokes with the press, the fully working model of a liquid cooled PowerBook G5 was made somewhere in October/November 2004.
He also mentioned the other way of cooling the system, which is a variation of more traditional approach (fans) together with some new inventions from Apple. Well, I don't know what that means, but it seems that for this product, they've decided to go safe way -- to do 2 working prototypes, based on two completely different cooling systems and to examine which one brings better results in everyday use.
He also didn't specify what G5 they're going to use -- if that's a low-power derivative of an IBM 970(XY) processor, or something else from Motorola (or whoever else). So, it could be anything. Hope we'll see that soon.
Blame me for this one, but that's what happened in Paris.
Nemesis said:
Outstanding. Maybe I'm so desparate that I'm looking for anything, but I see no reason for you to lie, and the dual design system is very common among designers. I believe you, but if there's any more evidence of this "conversation" (perhaps your friend's article or notes?) it'd make a more credible story.
-Chase
Sorry, but it's wishful thinking... for now!
The typos are getting MORE believable?
On US keyboards they put the "4" next to the "5." It's very easy to hit the wrong one.
Sorry, I remain a pessimist
I predict minor PB G4 revisions within 2 weeks. G5s... eventually.
The typos are getting MORE believable?
On US keyboards they put the "4" next to the "5." It's very easy to hit the wrong one.
Sorry, I remain a pessimist
I predict minor PB G4 revisions within 2 weeks. G5s... eventually.
FWIW, I remember reading about an Apple-GM liquid-cooling collaboration somewhere last year. News or rumor? PowerBook or PowerMac? I don't recall. Maybe it was just this same anecdote being relayed here in the forums!
If true, I give a PBG5 a good chance in the rev AFTER next.
But two more G4 revs wouldn't surprise me. We'd all love PBG5s, Apple included, but if it's a challenge to create, we'll have to settle for the world's best OS on some very nice G4 laptops. For now.
If true, I give a PBG5 a good chance in the rev AFTER next.
But two more G4 revs wouldn't surprise me. We'd all love PBG5s, Apple included, but if it's a challenge to create, we'll have to settle for the world's best OS on some very nice G4 laptops. For now.
MacNeXT said:
No. Wozniak is not at Apple any more. He co-founded Apple with S. Jobs.
Mr. Joswiak is Apple's first man for Mac products.
Maybe this has been said since I didnt read all 193 posts but wouldnt an announcement this big have been mentioned in Jobs' Keynote?
New PowerBook won't be thicker
The story was all about iMac G5, and that's what people who read everyday newspaper like to hear. Mr. Rubinstein was also there, interviewed by some fashion and life-style magazines about an iPod mania ... heck, he was so happy about it
One more thing that I recall was question about product's thickness and all those severe thermal issues related to it: Joswiak said that it was Apple's most important issue -- NOT to change product's thickness. Not thicker G5 Powerbook, he said, only thinner (if possible).
Only God knows how they're going to do that.
rendezvouscp said:
The story was all about iMac G5, and that's what people who read everyday newspaper like to hear. Mr. Rubinstein was also there, interviewed by some fashion and life-style magazines about an iPod mania ... heck, he was so happy about it
One more thing that I recall was question about product's thickness and all those severe thermal issues related to it: Joswiak said that it was Apple's most important issue -- NOT to change product's thickness. Not thicker G5 Powerbook, he said, only thinner (if possible).
Only God knows how they're going to do that.
G5PB
Its a pleasurable fantasy, but Steve isnt gonna let one of these on the shelves until he gets to show it off at WWDC to all of the ooooing an ahhhing fans. I hope we can wait till then, but in the mean time, the 1.5/1.67 will be nice. I also wonder how the g5 is gonna be different design wise how do u improve on the sexiest laptop on the market.
lalcan said:Powerbook G5 next tuesday!!!
Someone had to say it
Its a pleasurable fantasy, but Steve isnt gonna let one of these on the shelves until he gets to show it off at WWDC to all of the ooooing an ahhhing fans. I hope we can wait till then, but in the mean time, the 1.5/1.67 will be nice. I also wonder how the g5 is gonna be different design wise how do u improve on the sexiest laptop on the market.