Powerbook G5 Hints?

[Rootman]

An October press release from Delphi Automotive, formerly a GM division, announcing a thermal cooling breakthrough application for a confidential computer company (AKA Apple):

http://delphi.com/news/pressReleases/pr29958-10122004

Part of the text:

"Prior to the introduction of our advanced liquid cooling system, some industry observers noted that liquid cooling could only handle heat fluxes up to 100 watts per square centimeter," said Ray Johnson, thermal solutions business line executive, Delphi Thermal & Interior. "By capably addressing heat fluxes of over 200 watts per square centimeter, the Delphi liquid cooling system has broken through that observed limit by over 100 percent. Some of our available designs can handle even higher heat loads than that. This capability might therefore open the door to thermally-enabled CPU performance that had previously been deferred by the industry."

"This business represents our first original equipment application of this exciting technology," said Ron Pirtle, president, Delphi Thermal & Interior and vice president, Delphi Corp. "We are proud to be engineering innovative applications for computer users and to be working with new customers in the electronics industry. With future generations of these systems in our design and program application pipeline, we're putting ourselves in a position to be an attractive thermal management technology provider to this industry over the long term."

 

[MacNeXT]

No. Wozniak is not at Apple any more. He co-founded Apple with S. Jobs.

Mr. Joswiak is Apple's first man for Mac products.

Ah ok, didn't know about a Mr. Joswiak. The similarity was so obvious to me that I was almost sure you were making a mistake, I'm sorry.

Regarding Mr. Wozniak, he's still on Apple's payroll and represents Apple now and then, altough he doesn't actually work there anymore for quite some time now.

 

[brian4610]

Maybe this has been said since I didnt read all 193 posts but wouldnt an announcement this big have been mentioned in Jobs' Keynote?

I say no. MWSF was more for the mac-mini and shuffle...more for the non-apple rubes.....

I think Apple will devote an entire day/conference to the G5PB (when ever it happens, next week, next year, etc.)...Among the Apple faithful, i have to think this it one of, if not THE biggest release they've had....

I said this earlier, if we hear of an "announcement" from apple, i.e., conference, then it's on....otherwise, no dice, minor speed bumps...

I'm obviously hoping for the G5, and a lot of these rumors we've heard over the last couple of weeks are fun to believe...but i wonder how possible it could be.....Also, how often is 'TS' wrong with their predictions? (seriously, i don't know)

 

[Jo-Kun]

what happens when they do eventually bring out the g5 powerbook? what do we wait for then?

well like allways: the RevB-C-D... people will always think about the new product and say, I'll wait for the next Rev to come out

 

[Caiwyn]

I say no. MWSF was more for the mac-mini and shuffle...more for the non-apple rubes.....

I think Apple will devote an entire day/conference to the G5PB (when ever it happens, next week, next year, etc.)...Among the Apple faithful, i have to think this it one of, if not THE biggest release they've had....

I agree with you about MWSF, but I want to point out that the "Apple faithful" are a fraction of Apple's market. The Powerbook G5 will be huge for us, sure, but the iMac G5 was much bigger for Apple, and that wasn't released during MacWorld *or* WWDC, and there was no conference or big event.

I'm obviously hoping for the G5, and a lot of these rumors we've heard over the last couple of weeks are fun to believe...but i wonder how possible it could be.....Also, how often is 'TS' wrong with their predictions? (seriously, i don't know)

Excellent point. TS has a pretty good track record at this point. I would think their prediction of a G4 speedbump is a major blow to the credibility of Powerbook G5 rumors.

As I've said before, either way, I'm buying the next version of the 15" Powerbook that's available.

 

[Caiwyn]

well like allways: the RevB-C-D... people will always think about the new product and say, I'll wait for the next Rev to come out

True, but I think once the Powerbook G5 comes out, people will start screaming for the iBook G5.

 

[Jo-Kun]

True, but I think once the Powerbook G5 comes out, people will start screaming for the iBook G5.

yes and when thats finally out, end 2006 people will start to talk about the Mac Mini G5 and heat issues so that one will be known as the "mac lunchbox 2.0 includes toaster..."

there is allways room for rumors and people wanting more, more, more...

but then we will get the iPod Shuffle XL (2-4gb) iPod mini XL (10gb) iPod XL (80GB) iPod Photo XL (100GB with 6Mpixel camera and cardreader) and off course don't forget the HPPod Photoprint with built-in inkjet printer

people like dreaming

I do allso

J

:edit:

I just fooled around with the link, and you can design any link you want...

for instance:

http://switch.atdmt.com/action/appl...have_some_fun_and_read_all_the_posts_about_us

:edit:

 

[iChan]

Honestly even if they did release a new Powerbook with a G5 in it, I think the majority of people will wait for the second or third revisions to allow Apple to get it right.


Now Playing: Nick Drake "Bryter Later"

majority of people on this board maybe...

 

[Eastend]

The slip that Apple made was interesting, I saw it too. When all is said and done still waiting on whatever PowerBook comes out. If it is a tiny bump forget it, if it is a good solid bump?

Brian

 

[KindredMAC]

An October press release from Delphi Automotive, formerly a GM division, announcing a thermal cooling breakthrough application for a confidential computer company (AKA Apple):

http://delphi.com/news/pressReleases/pr29958-10122004

Part of the text:

"Prior to the introduction of our advanced liquid cooling system, some industry observers noted that liquid cooling could only handle heat fluxes up to 100 watts per square centimeter," said Ray Johnson, thermal solutions business line executive, Delphi Thermal & Interior. "By capably addressing heat fluxes of over 200 watts per square centimeter, the Delphi liquid cooling system has broken through that observed limit by over 100 percent. Some of our available designs can handle even higher heat loads than that. This capability might therefore open the door to thermally-enabled CPU performance that had previously been deferred by the industry."

"This business represents our first original equipment application of this exciting technology," said Ron Pirtle, president, Delphi Thermal & Interior and vice president, Delphi Corp. "We are proud to be engineering innovative applications for computer users and to be working with new customers in the electronics industry. With future generations of these systems in our design and program application pipeline, we're putting ourselves in a position to be an attractive thermal management technology provider to this industry over the long term."

I believe this press release was mainly aimed at announcing to the public that Delphi had created the liquid cooling system for the Dual 2.5 Ghz Power Macs. The Delphi plant in Lockport, New York was one of the plants that designed the system. I found out back around September that Delphi had created the liquid cooling system for Apple and I told my folks (I am from Lockport, NY originally and my folks still live there). My Mom called me up one day in November and said that the Lockport Journal had a huge article stating almost the same thing this press release says that you found on Delphi.com.

There is NOTHING saying that Delphi is NOT creating or has created a closed sooling system for the G5 PB's though.... I truly believe that is the only way we will get a G5 chip in a 1 inch thick laptop.

 

[Lz0]

Someone @ Apple is having a good giggle right now.

 

[kirk26]

"The Register"?? pftt. Move along. Nothing to see here....

 

[oskar]

Honestly even if they did release a new Powerbook with a G5 in it, I think the majority of people will wait for the second or third revisions to allow Apple to get it right.


Now Playing: Nick Drake "Bryter Later"

Well I wouldn,t... And I bet more than half the people that post talking about G5's wouldn't wait either.

It also seems that everybody here now seem to be engineers and KNOW that dual core and G5's aren't possible. Unless you're working at IBM or Apple or whatever, you really don't know what you're talking about so don't make a big deal about these things. We like to hope and speculate!
Okay and then let's say Apple finally releases a PBG5... the reason to not get one is that it would be nothing but trouble because it is a Rev. A. I mean come on... I'd like to see you guys be the first in line spending over two grand once the next PowerBook models are released, that is if you have the money to spend, because that could be the only real reason to make up those lame Rev A excuses. Many of us have had Rev A that work great and Rev B and so on that suck, so there's no real pattern to go by.

And besides, for those who claim they'll wait for a Rev B or C.. What do you mean? You're not getting a new laptop in the next 16 months??? Well you must be very patient....

I'm not saying that a G5 is around the corner, but we've been waiting long enough, and something is bound to arise. So let us hope it's just something that makes us G5, Dual Core and speedbump whiners happy.

 

[ASP272]

I dobut it, for all we know it could be a template for the site. Thus it's used for G5 and G4 images.

I dobut it? Sorry, just had to point it out it's so funny! Anyway, I doubt it too, but we can all hope for a Tuesday surprise!

 

[oskar]

I sure as heck hope that you were kidding, and based you your , you were. Nonetheless, I was simply ranting about the constant barrage of Powerbook G5 next Tuesday people. It does get annoying after a while. Even if someone is making fun of the "Powerbook G5 next tuesday" people, it is still unnecessary. I just don't get it. Every thread about Powerbooks starts out with a member saying "Powerbook G5s next Tuesday". If you aren't annoyed, then I commend you for your patience.

To all the established members who make fun of them, you are part of the problem. Maybe we should just let them say their crap without repeating what they say. Let the newbs be...

I agree. I'm new to posting but have been following the rumors for some months now, especially ever since I've decided to get a new PowerBook. Those "PowerBook next Tuesday" are very annoying, but I am farther annoyed by the members that answer angrily to the rest of us telling us to shut up and stop talking about PowerBooks, and giving us a billion reason as to why it isn't going to happen. I mean, isn't that the point of these forums, especially when we're in thread called Powerbook G5 Hints? ??? IMHO we should all just chill, and to us new posters, give us break.

So here's to new PowerBooks ANYDAY!

 

[Rob587]

typical steave jobs taunting us.... this is soo cruel, but its marketing genious.... he has managed to create all of this interest and hubbub with a small processor speedbump rumor.

 

[aesth3tic]

I agree with you about MWSF, but I want to point out that the "Apple faithful" are a fraction of Apple's market. The Powerbook G5 will be huge for us, sure, but the iMac G5 was much bigger for Apple, and that wasn't released during MacWorld *or* WWDC, and there was no conference or big event
....

the iMac G5 to my knowledge was released at MacExpo in Paris, which is actually quite a large event...

 

[ThomasJefferson]

I have to wonder if Steve has a trophy case with the fingers of failed webmasters on display.

 

[oskar]

I just fooled around with the link, and you can design any link you want...

for instance:

http://switch.atdmt.com/action/appl...have_some_fun_and_read_all_the_posts_about_us

:edit:

I think many people that posted in this thread weren't following the 5G iPods, PowerBook Updates? thread here in MacRumors, that is where the whole thing about the html arised. It was noelister who discovered it, yesterday I think, and it was until today that The Register published the story followed by MacRumors AFAIK.
I was one of the first to view what noelister was talking about and saw the code that said "g5_powerbook" and was today changed to "g4". Copying the address to your browser doesn't mean anything, and neither does altering the last part of the URL as many did to supposedly prove it was a lie. A few months ago this part of the code wasn't there and it is not just an imageholder as others say. It is supposed to be a way that marketing company Avenue A has to track traffic on Apple's webpage. And being that the code was changed very little time after the story surfaced "officially" could possibly mean something. It could have been a typo, but why would anybody at Apple pay attention to it if it was nothing more than just a mistake?

 

[Eastend]

Well I wouldn,t... And I bet more than half the people that post talking about G5's wouldn't wait either.

It also seems that everybody here now seem to be engineers and KNOW that dual core and G5's aren't possible. Unless you're working at IBM or Apple or whatever, you really don't know what you're talking about so don't make a big deal about these things. We like to hope and speculate!
Okay and then let's say Apple finally releases a PBG5... the reason to not get one is that it would be nothing but trouble because it is a Rev. A. I mean come on... I'd like to see you guys be the first in line spending over two grand once the next PowerBook models are released, that is if you have the money to spend, because that could be the only real reason to make up those lame Rev A excuses. Many of us have had Rev A that work great and Rev B and so on that suck, so there's no real pattern to go by.

And besides, for those who claim they'll wait for a Rev B or C.. What do you mean? You're not getting a new laptop in the next 16 months??? Well you must be very patient....

I'm not saying that a G5 is around the corner, but we've been waiting long enough, and something is bound to arise. So let us hope it's just something that makes us G5, Dual Core and speedbump whiners happy.

Great Post, I'll second that. Hope is Alive.

Brian

 

[Caiwyn]

I agree. I'm new to posting but have been following the rumors for some months now, especially ever since I've decided to get a new PowerBook. Those "PowerBook next Tuesday" are very annoying, but I am farther annoyed by the members that answer angrily to the rest of us telling us to shut up and stop talking about PowerBooks, and giving us a billion reason as to why it isn't going to happen. I mean, isn't that the point of these forums, especially when we're in thread called Powerbook G5 Hints? ??? IMHO we should all just chill, and to us new posters, give us break.

So here's to new PowerBooks ANYDAY!

Well said! As has been pointed out, this is a rumors site. It's not a news site or a confirmed reports site. We talk about rumors and speculation here.

It wouldn't surprise me if many of the people who are angrily telling the optimists to shut up are folks who bought a PB recently and don't want to see it replaced by a G5 so soon.

 

[Caiwyn]

Okay and then let's say Apple finally releases a PBG5... the reason to not get one is that it would be nothing but trouble because it is a Rev. A.

I'll buy a whatever's released. If it's a G4, I'll be happy with the stability. If it's a G5, I'll shell out for the AppleCare extension.

 

[oskar]

Well said! As has been pointed out, this is a rumors site. It's not a news site or a confirmed reports site. We talk about rumors and speculation here.

It wouldn't surprise me if many of the people who are angrily telling the optimists to shut up are folks who bought a PB recently and don't want to see it replaced by a G5 so soon.

The thought had crossed my mind, too. I just didn't want to say it.
That is the reason by the way that we haven't bought one. We don't want our new books to have a sudden next-week price drop or to be "outperformed" by a book that costs the same only a couple of weeks after we just got ours. Or at least that's why I haven't gotten one. I should have bought one last November, but look what MacRumors has done to me, it's almost February now and I'm still waiting for an update...
I'd be very excited about a PowerBook G5, but will be more than satisfied by getting a new G4.

 

[panphage]

The thought had crossed my mind, too. I just didn't want to say it.
That is the reason by the way that we haven't bought one. We don't want our new books to have a sudden next-week price drop or to be "outperformed" by a book that costs the same only a couple of weeks after we just got ours. Or at least that's why I haven't gotten one. I should have bought one last November, but look what MacRumors has done to me, it's almost February now and I'm still waiting for an update...
I'd be very excited about a PowerBook G5, but will be more than satisfied by getting a new G4.

Buy it. There's always ebay, and macs tend to hold their value pretty well...even G4's vs new G5s. The current powerbook is a fine machine. And I mean fine like a 16-year-old hoo....umm...forget I said that.

 

[noelister]

The thought had crossed my mind, too. I just didn't want to say it.
That is the reason by the way that we haven't bought one. We don't want our new books to have a sudden next-week price drop or to be "outperformed" by a book that costs the same only a couple of weeks after we just got ours. Or at least that's why I haven't gotten one. I should have bought one last November, but look what MacRumors has done to me, it's almost February now and I'm still waiting for an update...
I'd be very excited about a PowerBook G5, but will be more than satisfied by getting a new G4.

I am with you oskar.

Also, I would like to think that I was the one that started the hype of that HTML code.