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Powerbook Rumors Again

Originally posted by jstef
If the updated Powerbooks are released BEFORE Panther is released, then you won't be getting it. Maybe Apple would be kind enough to offer some kind of free upgrade, but don't bet on it.
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If Panther is released within 30 days of any machine purchase, you can use the included software update coupons for a free copy of Panther.


In either case, the PB's won't come with OS9 and they will not be able to boot into OS9. Steve said something along the lines of 'no Apple released past Feb. this year will boot into OS9".
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It is any 2003 model, however this hasn't been the case (iBooks etc). Also the PowerBooks will come with OS 9, they just won't be able to boot (officially) into OS 9. You still need it for classic, it will be on the Restore DVD as it is now for the 2003 PowerBooks.

AppleMatt
 
Re: Students with top of the line *PowerBooks*?!

Well said, Matt.

Guess times have changed since college in the late 80's?

On a side note, I'd still like to brain the marketing folks at Apple who, for some reason or another, equate the desire for a compact Powerbook (a.k.a. the 12") with a desire for a slower machine (a.k.a. missing the L3).

Just hoping that with the new 15's out, we might see a improved 12" line as far as total package goes.

Cheers.

Originally posted by slightly
This must be a new definition of the word "student" that I wasn't previously aware of. When the fastest possible PowerBook model becomes a mandatory purchase for students, I'll eat my words. Until then, you're *students*. Spend your money on beer and loose women like we had to.

Matt
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baltimore... pfff!!!

Baltimore sucks! go D.C. wooo!! Woooo!! ohh and what! Woooo!!

End drunken football game type jeer... my appologies to all who live in the industrial wasteland up north of the Potomac... seriously i'm sorry... i have my moments... 😕
 
Re: baltimore... pfff!!!

Originally posted by capitalhood
Baltimore sucks! go D.C. wooo!! Woooo!! ohh and what! Woooo!!

End drunken football game type jeer... my appologies to all who live in the industrial wasteland up north of the Potomac... seriously i'm sorry... i have my moments... 😕
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Baltimore can suck.. atleast it's not overpriced like DC. BTW, I go to school in DC, more exactly Roslyn in Arlington.... ah the best of both worlds. 😉
 
just got confirmation from the Owner at our local Mac store, that Alum 15" powerbooks are shiping into Huntsville....
 
I was asking for prices on used PB's so i could sell and upgrade, he told me to wait and come down to see the new ones next wook, or so (you know how long it takes for Apple to really do anything) he gave me no specs, I forgot to ask, but hold on and I'll call.....
 
Originally posted by big
I was asking for prices on used PB's so i could sell and upgrade, he told me to wait and come down to see the new ones next wook, or so (you know how long it takes for Apple to really do anything) he gave me no specs, I forgot to ask, but hold on and I'll call.....
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Oh you better be telling the truth and he better be right!!!! 😀 Let us know asap what he says... oh yippers! (gay elation)
 
ok, aparently they have the 17" & 12" aluminum in stock, he said they range from 867 mhz to 1ghz, you can call them at 256-721-1700. he told me the 15" are not in stock, and he forgot what the L cashes were, either 1 or 2 mb (which doesn't tell us much there eh?) then he said to stop asking about them and buy one (just kidding, I said I wish I could stop asking about them and just buy one)

I'm gonna go see them later this week me thinks!
 
Originally posted by big
ok, aparently they have the 17" & 12" aluminum in stock, he said they range from 867 mhz to 1ghz, you can call them at 256-721-1700. he told me the 15" are not in stock, and he forgot what the L cashes were, either 1 or 2 mb (which doesn't tell us much there eh?) then he said to stop asking about them and buy one (just kidding, I said I wish I could stop asking about them and just buy one)

I'm gonna go see them later this week me thinks!
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867Mhz - 1Ghz??? Those are the current models, NOT the new ones. 😡
 
I kinda doubt it, but...

Originally posted by big
ok, aparently they have the 17" & 12" aluminum in stock, he said they range from 867 mhz to 1ghz, you can call them at 256-721-1700. he told me the 15" are not in stock, and he forgot what the L cashes were, either 1 or 2 mb (which doesn't tell us much there eh?) then he said to stop asking about them and buy one (just kidding, I said I wish I could stop asking about them and just buy one).
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You're talking about the Mac Resource store over close to the mall, right? Perhaps I need to pay them a visit in person to see what's up...
 
yeah, you know I designed that store with the Principal here in our firm (all done on Macs of course!)

I thought I'd just give you guys a heads up, not to buy the 12" alum, since the new 15" will be shipping soon (apparently) I was only passing on what they told me....
 
yea....those 12 and 17s are the old models....but if he did say 15" alums are coming out...that would be sweet....did he give a date or any inkling as to when they would be coming
 
Mac Resource Says "No Way, Jose"

Originally posted by Lyle
You're talking about the Mac Resource store over close to the mall, right? Perhaps I need to pay them a visit in person to see what's up...
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Just called over to Mac Resource and they deny having said anything about an updated 15" PowerBook arriving in Huntsville anytime soon. The salesperson I spoke to did acknowledge that one of their (non-Apple) suppliers is offering some special incentive(s) to try to move their remaining TiBook inventory (e.g. discounts if you buy a TiBook and monitor together), but this is not a surprise.

There is no doubt that updated PowerBooks are coming soon (for some value of "soon") but it doesn't sound like the fine folks at Mac Resource have any insider information that the rest of us don't. That doesn't mean, however, you shouldn't stop by the store the next time you're in Huntsville -- they're a very friendly and knowledgeable bunch of guys. 😉
 
Possible Specs, Possibly Soon

An anonymous friend of mine sent this to me. Fiction or fact, it's at least something to hope for. Or gripe about. Take your pick.

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iBook

Good Better Best

867MHz G4 867MHz G4 1GHz G4
256MB DDR SDRAM 512MB DDR SDRAM 512MB DDR SDRAM
12.1" TFT LCD 15.2" TFT LCD 15.2" TFT LCD
Combo Drive Combo Drive SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 420 Go NVIDIA GeForce 420 Go NIVIDIA GeForce 420 Go
32MB DDR Video Memory 64MB DDR Video Memory 64MB DDR Video Memory
40GB HD 40GB HD 60GB HD
AE Ready AE Ready AE Built-in
(Airport Extreme, FireWire 2, USB 2, & Bluetooth Standard.)

$1299 $1499 $1799

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PowerBook

Good Better Best

867MHz G4 Dual 867MHz G4 Dual 1GHz G4
512MB DDR SDRAM 512MB DDR SDRAM 1024MB DDR SDRAM
15.2" TFT LCD 17" TFT LCD 17" TFT LCD
Combo Drive Super Drive Super Drive
NVIDIA GeForce 440 NVIDIA GeForce 440 NVIDIA GeForce 440
32MB DDR Video Memory 64MB DDR Video Memory 64MB DDR Video Memory
40GB HD 60GB HD 60GB HD
AE Ready AE Ready AE Built-in
(Airport Extreme, FireWire 2, USB 2, & Bluetooth Standard.)

$1999 $2599 $3299
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Jaedreth

(And I had it so nice and pretty when posting, it's all jumbled now.) 🙁
 
somehow i doubt dual processor portables makes much sense as far as battery life is concerned.

"Oh my computer is blazing fast! Too bad by the time i boot photoshop, the battery's dead...."
 
Re: Possible Specs, Possibly Soon

Originally posted by jaedreth
An anonymous friend of mine sent this to me. Fiction or fact, it's at least something to hope for. Or gripe about. Take your pick.

🙁
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These specs are the product of a deranged mind...

I don't think there's any chance of SMP in a powerbook - just too much heat. The tradeoff is not worth it.

Also, there is no mention of a CPU speedup.

Also, it would be sheer idiocy for apple to put old Geforce4 440 chips into the next revision of the powerbooks when other performance laptops are using Geforce FX and ATI 9600.

I wouldn't buy one of these! I want something that can make Quartz extreme scream, and do smooth, full-featured 3d rendering at 1440x900 (assuming that they don't increase the res on the displays, which I personally hope they do not.)

And, even if they do come out tomorrow, I'll wait until I can get Panther bundled with it, I'm not going to pay extra for the latest version of the OS...

..just my highly opinionated $0.02

-chomsky
 
perhaps Apple will let you turn off one of the processors.... or severly disable it if you want to, you can already do some of that now if you like... and in the 17" & 15" model, it makes sense, the pro wants a laptop to carry & one hell of a powerful computer
 
Re: Possible Specs, Possibly Soon

The iBooks sound good but the rest of the stuff listed doesn't sound like much of an improvement over the current product performance wise. They really need to hit 1.6 GHz on the G4 installed in the Power Books. Otherwise one might as well get an iBook.

Thanks
Dave


Originally posted by jaedreth
An anonymous friend of mine sent this to me. Fiction or fact, it's at least something to hope for. Or gripe about. Take your pick.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
iBook

Good Better Best

867MHz G4 867MHz G4 1GHz G4
256MB DDR SDRAM 512MB DDR SDRAM 512MB DDR SDRAM
12.1" TFT LCD 15.2" TFT LCD 15.2" TFT LCD
Combo Drive Combo Drive SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 420 Go NVIDIA GeForce 420 Go NIVIDIA GeForce 420 Go
32MB DDR Video Memory 64MB DDR Video Memory 64MB DDR Video Memory
40GB HD 40GB HD 60GB HD
AE Ready AE Ready AE Built-in
(Airport Extreme, FireWire 2, USB 2, & Bluetooth Standard.)

$1299 $1499 $1799

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PowerBook

Good Better Best

867MHz G4 Dual 867MHz G4 Dual 1GHz G4
512MB DDR SDRAM 512MB DDR SDRAM 1024MB DDR SDRAM
15.2" TFT LCD 17" TFT LCD 17" TFT LCD
Combo Drive Super Drive Super Drive
NVIDIA GeForce 440 NVIDIA GeForce 440 NVIDIA GeForce 440
32MB DDR Video Memory 64MB DDR Video Memory 64MB DDR Video Memory
40GB HD 60GB HD 60GB HD
AE Ready AE Ready AE Built-in
(Airport Extreme, FireWire 2, USB 2, & Bluetooth Standard.)

$1999 $2599 $3299
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jaedreth

(And I had it so nice and pretty when posting, it's all jumbled now.) 🙁
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Re: Re: Possible Specs, Possibly Soon

I tend to agre with most of your opinions except to the issue of dual processors. Depending on how successful Motorola was in reducing heat output SMP could be found in a laptop.

SMP in a laptop could give Apple a marketing edge against Centrino. Much in the same way as the SMP G4 Power MACs gave apple and advantage in contrived bake offs agianst intel boxes. The nice thing with this sort of move is that Intel would take sometime reacting due to bus interface on the Centrino system.

Marketing or not I'd much rather see a much faster G4 in the Power Book line. I'm talking 50% or more faster. Apple is going to need the faster hardware to compete against Intels Centrinos and remain viable against the G5 PMACs.

It is interesting that the IBooks are being configured in what I would consider an ideal manner for a low end knock about portable. Its to bad that Apple isn't offering a more robust machine for the top end of the market.

Dave


Originally posted by chomsky
These specs are the product of a deranged mind...

I don't think there's any chance of SMP in a powerbook - just too much heat. The tradeoff is not worth it.

Also, there is no mention of a CPU speedup.

Also, it would be sheer idiocy for apple to put old Geforce4 440 chips into the next revision of the powerbooks when other performance laptops are using Geforce FX and ATI 9600.

I wouldn't buy one of these! I want something that can make Quartz extreme scream, and do smooth, full-featured 3d rendering at 1440x900 (assuming that they don't increase the res on the displays, which I personally hope they do not.)

And, even if they do come out tomorrow, I'll wait until I can get Panther bundled with it, I'm not going to pay extra for the latest version of the OS...

..just my highly opinionated $0.02

-chomsky
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My dream PBook

I'd probably buy a 12" SuperDrive model today except for 2 things: 128MB on motherboard cripples max RAM - should be 2 slots IMO, and no L3 cache.

BTW, a DP PowerBook would be awesome. Like others have said, just shut down the 2nd proc' when on battery power (as an option of course).
 
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