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I agree with that but they already know that it is going to be very popular in the stagnent PC market. They should not make people have so much anticipation. 1ghz front side bus. That pisses on Bill gates PC. I Can't wait any longer
 
****ty business practice if you ask me. I'm very teed off at Apple today. I spotted this and made the first post in the other thread last night. I have a supervisor calling me this afternoon (although the date is probably gonna be pushed to late September for that too, at least I have her phone number) to explain what happened. I am going to demand financial restitution to compensate for my loss of productivity. I start classes on Tuesday and this is very frustrating to me. They offered me a 1.8ghz, but I told them that is unacceptable. We'll post details of my conversation later...Still waiting for the obligatory, "we ****ed you over," email from Apple.
 
Definately, I start class tuesday too. On top of that I have my own design & consulting business that will lose productivety as well. I hear ya money!!!!
 
Originally posted by Flowbee
I think there are at least two reasons Apple does this: 1) To get an idea of how popular a product is before going into mass production

Hmm, maybe but i somehow doubt it. Pretty dumb way to run a business don't ya think?

and 2) It's easier to keep a product that's not in production a secret. If Apple tried to wait until there was a warehouse full of machines before announcing them, it's much more likely that specs would be leaked.

I think there's another reason which is that Steve _HAD_ to announce the G5s because MOTO had screwed Apple over an d they couldn't announce the Powerbooks they wanted to at the WDC. He probably had a better handle on when these were likely to ship and also trusted IBM to deliver the goods more or less on time.

I reckon a few weeks delay isn't that bad really. More than a month and it get's serious.

Chill out guys, they'll get there in the end.

e.
 
There will be some frustrated shoppers.

I got to play with a 1.6 G5 last night at a local CompUSA. They had only 1 demo unit - not for sale. The Apple rep there said they expect the 1.8 *demo* in a couple weeks and the dual 2GHz might not be in until October...:(
 
I dont rely on the G5 to do all my business work, but it will do it a hell of a lot faster than my Dual athlon PC....
 
STILL on the phone with Apple. Here are a few more details...

1. We will get an email in the next 24 hours explaining what the hell happened.

2. NO dual G5s are shipping anytime soon. If you think brick and mortar stores (Apple, CompUSA, etc.) are getting duals, think again.

Some people have suggested that Apple does this on purpose. No, they are losing money and customers right now. They are offering discounts of (at least) $75 just to keep your order. That is not part of business practice. Its a tough day for Apple customers, but also for Apple staff and Apple Computer in general...
 
This sucks.
I at the beginning of this week extra ram and a new hard drive so that they would come at the same time as the computer. Now i have a huge hard drive and a boat load of ram that will just be sitting around for a month!

Its that that they postponed it, it is that they waited till the last possible second to do so.
 
I just got off the phone with the Apple store. I was told all 2.0Ghz (bto and stock) have been pushed back. None are shipping and they expect the delivery dates to be pushed back again (further).
 
I just had to respond but Apple doesn't owe anyone anything until they have charged your credit card.

Yeah, it sucks but they can delay all they want and to the same token, you can cancel your order. I waited about a month before ordering because I was on the fence about what to order. My ship date is on or before 9/30 and it hasn't changed yet, I'm also an edu customer so it'll be interesting to see when I get it.
 
Not all 2.0GHz machines

I was running a Demo Day at a local retailer last weekend, and a very happy shopper told me his credit card had been billed. If that happened, the computer must have shipped shortly afterwards. If there's a problem with some orders, maybe the software has moved them to the end of the line. My suggestion is that they call Apple to complain, since going from the beginning to the end of the line isn't very fair.
 
I could be wrong, but I believe the FTC rule is that shipments must be made with 30 days of a credit card charge.
 
Au contraire...

Originally posted by jZilla
If they announce a speedbump at Paris Expo (almost entirely unlikely) there'll be wars!

Appreciate the sentiment re secrecy but they took orders and gave 7-10 ship times - clearly unable to hit them. Not good IMO.

I would expect a riot if there aren't speedbumps at MWP.

Let's face it, how else are they going to get to 3 gig by June?

Macusers need to get their heads out of the '6 month' upgrade cycle in any case, as does/do (oh, I'm so confused now...) Apple.

Things should be shifting every 3 months - just like the rest of the PC world.

Unless you want to go back to the slow upward grind of Motorola?

Cheers

Brother Mugga
 
Thinking?!?!

Has anybody thought about that it might not be an hardware issue, rather a software issue?!?!!? Were 10.2.7, doesn't effectivly run the duals like they want too!?!? And they are waiting to include Panther with the dual's?!?! I'm running 7B44, and it's the best build so far...So Apple has to be close!!

This could all just be for showing that the benchmarks, for the dual's are true....

It's just a thought...



CS...out
 
Well.....

I posted on the 27th July that 1.8's and 2 Ghz mac would not be seen until the third week in September.
If we were given that information by Apple in July why did they wait till the last few hours before showing the delays.

Now I admit the 1.6's came in earlier than expected. The 1.8 's seem to be earlier also which did give me hope that the 2.0 's were about to hit the channels.

Looks like my original post about the third week of September was about on the button for the duals at least.

At least I wasn't gullible enough to have put my MDD on Ebay already :).
I'll wait till I have the shipping confirmation.
 
Originally posted by trog
. Its a tough day for Apple customers, but also for Apple staff and Apple
Computer in general...

You are correct. Apple is most certainly not trying to tee off people. The comments about Apple doing this are ludicrous. I guess Apple should always say, "Shipping within the next 12 months" although I already know the reaction to that.
 
Re: Au contraire...

Unless you want to go back to the slow upward grind of Motorola?

Cheers

Brother Mugga [/B]

If I was typing this on a dual G5 2ghz I may agree ;-)

As it stands, if they "launch" the 3ghz my 2ghz order will be cancelled.

is it me, or is the G4 actually getting slower by the day? ;-)
 
Re: Au contraire...

Originally posted by Brother Mugga
I would expect a riot if there aren't speedbumps at MWP.

Let's face it, how else are they going to get to 3 gig by June?

Macusers need to get their heads out of the '6 month' upgrade cycle in any case, as does/do (oh, I'm so confused now...) Apple.

Things should be shifting every 3 months - just like the rest of the PC world.

Unless you want to go back to the slow upward grind of Motorola?

Cheers

Brother Mugga

Yes, we all have to get used to "normal".

This is horrible for those who ordered G5s shortly after the keynote. I can't believe how after waiting a whole summer, they still aren't ready.

Remember how ThinkSecret reported that Apple knew there would be a long delay in shipping the 17" PB almost immediately after MWSF. They did say anything though. I wouldn't be surprised if a few weeks down the road, we hear that Apple knew G5s would be shipping in volume at the promised time......back in June. :(
 
i'm holding to speak with someone right now with apple... here is how things went for me last night:

8/29
9/26
8/29
9/26
8/29
9/26
9/29

i am so frustrated right now.... i need this thing for school, like, badly. i would just order a powerbook, but those are being updated in like, a minute, so i'm not ordering an obsolete machine. i might just get a 1.8... i'd hate to do it because i really want a dual, but school is starting, and i simply won't have the time to configure and move documents and set up a maching 2-3 weeks AFTER school starts... and it's not like college is high school, we get homework before the 4th week starts. i'll keep ya'll updated to the backpedaling and promises from apple computer, inc.....
 
My dual G5 ordered 6/23 now shows a ship date of 9/29.

Thanks apple! :mad:

At the very least, I expect Panther to be a FREE upgrade for my Patience!!!!!
 
Originally posted by zoozx
My dual G5 ordered 6/23 now shows a ship date of 9/29.

Thanks apple! :mad:

At the very least, I expect Panther to be a FREE upgrade for my Patience!!!!!

Unless it slips itself :eek:

The worst thing is the publicity, my PeeCee 'friends' all say "how can it be the fastest when it doesn't exist". They have a point!
 
update:

they are currently trying to sucker me by removng my $57 overnite shipping charge, but still shipping it overnight... i told the woman thanks but no thanks, and i'm on hold waiting for a supervisor...

ok, still on hold, and they went on ahead and removed the shipping charge, even though i told them thanks but no thanks...
 
stock manipulation?

I wonder if the e-mail "later today" will appear after the markets close....

Just to let the investors cool down over the long weekend, rather than dumping Apple stock today.


Nahh, it would be paranoid to think that....
 
Not just Duals

I ordered a 1.8 the day they were announced and my "order status" now says that it will ship by 9/15. What the heck. I should have been one of the first to get this dang thing and now all I hear about is that the dauls are being pushed back, but am I the only one with my order pushed back. I'm not to happy.

I just got a 15" PB from Apple's store, it was shipped from Taiwan, not a warehouse in CA. So I'm guessing they are still running through production.
 
I just got off the phone with Apple regarding my stock dual 2.0 order that went from 8/29 to 9/26 (about 10 times back and forth). While I have absolutely no trust in what Apple says anymore (esp what a phone rep says), he explained that "no dual 2.0 machines are shipping anywhere." The 9/26 date is a "worst-case scenario to make sure everyone gets it by the ship date" (gee, what about the 8/29 ship date?) and "machines will hopefully ship out in 1-2 weeks" (although the expected ship date will never change to a sooner one).

When I complained about how they had 2 months to figure out they couldn't build enough computers in time and warn people, the guy could only manage an embarrased, "It's very unusual to have such a long delay announced right on the ship date." When I asked if the machines would be priced the same as when they came out despite their being 3 months old by late Sept, he said, "the price is the same." However, upon complaining, I got a free upgrade to 2-day shipping (wow, now I can get my computer in time for spring 2004!).

He said time and time again that "a very long and detailed email about the delay is being composed and will be sent out today explaining the situation and what to expect." I'll wait to see what's mentioned in that email, but there's a good chance I might just cancel. . . .
 
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