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We keep forgetting this part of the thinksecret report:
Sources were unable to confirm at this time whether the systems will sport the dual-core PowerPC 970MP processor or the single-core PowerPC 970GX, although unconfirmed notes point to the PowerPC 970MP. The second core would deliver performance gains far greater than the 200-300MHz bumps each processor is receiving alone with the update.
..........although unconfirmed notes point to the PowerPC 970MP
Sources were unable to confirm at this time whether the systems will sport the dual-core PowerPC 970MP processor or the single-core PowerPC 970GX, although unconfirmed notes point to the PowerPC 970MP. The second core would deliver performance gains far greater than the 200-300MHz bumps each processor is receiving alone with the update.
..........although unconfirmed notes point to the PowerPC 970MP
ifjake said:
Yes, it was in a new version of CHUD Tools..........
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=114583
Roz said:Actually the 18th is a Monday. Sorry for nitpicking
Aha, you are right, oops. But still, why would you release new products on a Sunday? Companies are creatures of habit, especially Apple when it comes to releases and i don't ever remember Apple releasing anything on a Sunday. They have released/announced on a Monday before though. If they were going to do it on the weekend, Saturday would make more sense.
I remember when Apple updated Final Cut, Shake, and Dvd SP on a Sunday two years ago at Nab and people said "how weird, a Sunday update"(https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/04/20030406160007.shtml). Things always seem to repeat themselves around here.
P4 4GHZ In Flames
If i recall correctly, the p4 4ghz was pulled from production once it had been realized that after running while the chips burst into flames and started a couple computers on fire. Only a select group of ppl had them at the time. From what i understand 3.8 is the top right now.
broken_keyboard said:
If i recall correctly, the p4 4ghz was pulled from production once it had been realized that after running while the chips burst into flames and started a couple computers on fire. Only a select group of ppl had them at the time. From what i understand 3.8 is the top right now.
I remember that too now, but hardware? hmmmm maybe if the specs ARE as horribly underwhelming as TS reported they will be 'updated' sunday well below the radar, possibly to avoid some of the embarrassment. Stealth update.
P4 has special fire-prevention circuitry
You obviously forgot the smileys on that post
In fact, you don't even need a heatsink on a P4 - it will monitor its own temperature and throttle back to stay cool.
Here's a photo of Intel and AMD chips after they've been run without a heat sink: http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/heatvideo-01.html
drewyboy said:
You obviously forgot the smileys on that post
In fact, you don't even need a heatsink on a P4 - it will monitor its own temperature and throttle back to stay cool.
Here's a photo of Intel and AMD chips after they've been run without a heat sink: http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/heatvideo-01.html
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AidenShaw said:You obviously forgot the smileys on that post
In fact, you don't even need a heatsink on a P4 - it will monitor its own temperature and throttle back to stay cool.
Here's a photo of Intel and AMD chips after they've been run without a heat sink: http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/heatvideo-01.html
First of all... i could do that test myself.. and uh.. have things turn out differently. It's called simply dont actually test teh intels. Secondly, these are really old chips.. 2ghz and 1.4?? I just wanted to clarify i was talking 4ghz which started on fire.
AidenShaw said:You obviously forgot the smileys on that post
In fact, you don't even need a heatsink on a P4 - it will monitor its own temperature and throttle back to stay cool.
Here's a photo of Intel and AMD chips after they've been run without a heat sink: http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/heatvideo-01.html
Well it all ende in shutdown with all of them though.....so I think ill keep my heatsink on
Also this is older vrsions of AMD and Intel, so don'y really apply 
This has to be wrong!
I don't think TS got it right this time. If apple is interested in increasing their sales they wouldn't go with anything less than a Dual Dual Core 3.0 Ghz G5 for their top of the line desktop. They cannot possibly compete with AMD with anything less than that.
I am in the market for a new worksation and i know for a fact that if these rumors were true, i wouldn't be interested in getting something so underpowered. I'm pretty sure that alot of people will agree with me on this.
sorry TS but i don't think so...
I don't think TS got it right this time. If apple is interested in increasing their sales they wouldn't go with anything less than a Dual Dual Core 3.0 Ghz G5 for their top of the line desktop. They cannot possibly compete with AMD with anything less than that.
I am in the market for a new worksation and i know for a fact that if these rumors were true, i wouldn't be interested in getting something so underpowered. I'm pretty sure that alot of people will agree with me on this.
sorry TS but i don't think so...
wrong - read it again
The P4 did not shut down - here's the quote
Intel hasn't removed the thermal controls from newer P4s, but it's possible that AMD has added similar circuitry.
Platform said:
The P4 did not shut down - here's the quote
Platform said:Also this is older vrsions of AMD and Intel, so don'y really apply
Intel hasn't removed the thermal controls from newer P4s, but it's possible that AMD has added similar circuitry.
Apple better be quick with the dual core's
or someone will beat them too it !
vague link here! : http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050414_185759.html
or someone will beat them too it !
vague link here! : http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050414_185759.html
I do not expect we will see dual cores being released until at the earliest the WWDC timeframe but more likely 4th quarter.
The reason I think that is because IBM will not be introducing the dual core processors for their JS20 Blade servers until early 1st Quarter 2006.
We are in talks with them about purchasing 512 Processors of their JS20's Blade Center.
Currently their line is single core at 2.2 Ghz. They are speed bumping these to 2.5 in August( which will be the ones we buy). We wanted the dual cores but can't wait because we have to spend the money for this particular project in this fiscal year.
Since Apple has a deal with IBM to get the faster speed processors I expect that the PowerMac will get a speed bump soon at around 2.7 to 2.8 Ghz. We might see 3GHz in the single core as a top end but I wouldn't bet on it.
When the dual cores arrive later this year, I don't expect them to be any faster that 2.5 to 2.7 GHz.
I will have better info by the end of this month because we will be meeting with Apple about the status of their Xserve roadmap.
Unfortunately I won't be able to share that info with my fellow Macrumor's members due to NDA.
The reason I think that is because IBM will not be introducing the dual core processors for their JS20 Blade servers until early 1st Quarter 2006.
We are in talks with them about purchasing 512 Processors of their JS20's Blade Center.
Currently their line is single core at 2.2 Ghz. They are speed bumping these to 2.5 in August( which will be the ones we buy). We wanted the dual cores but can't wait because we have to spend the money for this particular project in this fiscal year.
Since Apple has a deal with IBM to get the faster speed processors I expect that the PowerMac will get a speed bump soon at around 2.7 to 2.8 Ghz. We might see 3GHz in the single core as a top end but I wouldn't bet on it.
When the dual cores arrive later this year, I don't expect them to be any faster that 2.5 to 2.7 GHz.
I will have better info by the end of this month because we will be meeting with Apple about the status of their Xserve roadmap.
Unfortunately I won't be able to share that info with my fellow Macrumor's members due to NDA.
Woefully underpowered!
Very unimpressed with the spec if it proves true. There have been no revisions to the motherboard since the G5 was released 2 years ago. Where's the DDR2 memory or PCIe graphics. I don't think you can buy a mid rnage PC with an ATI9600 anymore that card alone must be 2 years old. Why not an X800 in the top machine. As far as the processor goes, looks more like it will be the existing 970FX as they include 512Kb cache in the spec. Most rumours suggest the 970MP will have 1Mb per core.
If Apple arn't careful these machines could provide the biggest PC/Apple hardware/performance gap to date!!
Wont be upgrading my computer this time round.
PowerMac G5 Dual 2Ghz
Very unimpressed with the spec if it proves true. There have been no revisions to the motherboard since the G5 was released 2 years ago. Where's the DDR2 memory or PCIe graphics. I don't think you can buy a mid rnage PC with an ATI9600 anymore that card alone must be 2 years old. Why not an X800 in the top machine. As far as the processor goes, looks more like it will be the existing 970FX as they include 512Kb cache in the spec. Most rumours suggest the 970MP will have 1Mb per core.
If Apple arn't careful these machines could provide the biggest PC/Apple hardware/performance gap to date!!
Wont be upgrading my computer this time round.
PowerMac G5 Dual 2Ghz
JesterJJZ said:
And was this little birdie Apples Marketing/manfacturing team.. or did they have little stubby wings and a red breast.
You can't make a statement like that without giving us some sort of story...
Then and only then can we either start ripping your statement to bits or simply perpetuate the romour mill.
Dan1976 said:
Actually I think the processor is being changed to the 970GX with 1MB cache instead of 512KB. This processor is suppose to allow speed increases up to 3GHz.
As I said in my above post I really don't think we will see the dual core 970MP until at least WWDC. But the again I could be wrong.
pgre said:
I think threads just die on their own.
When people stop posting to them they eventually reach the second page of the topic and just wither away.
nospleen said:
I hope your right. For the casual user like me, getting a dual 2, especially with the educators discount, will have me ordering asap. It would meet all my needs and give me more money to update my monitor to a larger apple display.
Mhz
Don't u know mhz don't compare.
Whats wrong wit u, is ur hearing impared.
The lot of u mhz hungry,
2.7 is more than enough for me.
Proffesionals,
I don't know maybe.
Doesn't 2.5,
G5,
piss on the P3.6.
Wot more do u want guys.
These updates are good what more do you want.
I'm not sure on the benchmarks but how does the G5 2.5ghz compare with the latest pentium 4.
Don't u know mhz don't compare.
Whats wrong wit u, is ur hearing impared.
The lot of u mhz hungry,
2.7 is more than enough for me.
Proffesionals,
I don't know maybe.
Doesn't 2.5,
G5,
piss on the P3.6.
Wot more do u want guys.
These updates are good what more do you want.
I'm not sure on the benchmarks but how does the G5 2.5ghz compare with the latest pentium 4.