PowerMac G5, iMac G5, eMac Specs

[Little Endian]

AMD and Intel will have Dual Core CPU's on store sheveles by summer. I'm sure we can expect An Singel Core Athlon FX-59 3.0ghz 1MB L2 by November since the FX-55 2.8ghz 1MB L2 is expected in May.

Apple is in some seriously deep Sh*t , once those AMD/Intel Dualcore's hit the streets, If anyone has been paying attention to Anandtech , Cnet , and Tomshardware, you will see what I mean. Those performance numbers can temp even the most loyal Mac Zealot, especially the Multitasking results.

True but so far most consumer PC Mobos available and soon to be available for Dual Core Processors will still only support one Processor for both Intel and AMD. Seeing how most PowerMacs are allready Dual Processor the difference won't be that big comparing Dual Processor Power Macs to Single Processor Dual Core AMD and Intel Machines.

I have seen the Anandtech articles about Dual Core and the performance does not impress me the least. In fact the Multitasking on Windows machines using Dual Proccessors or Dual Core is poor when comparing to OSX. OSX while not perfect at multitasking can still handle better than Windows. Remember OSX was built with SMP in mind and has much more optimizations in the OS to take advantage of multiple threads. Apple's entire PowerMac lineup has been built around Dual processors at times for years now and that's why OSX is better than Windows when we are talking about multitasking. In fact Apple has been building MP machines for the past 10 years since the days of the PowerPC 604.

Anyhow even if the next update is not Dual Core I imagine we should have Dual Cored PowerMacs or Xserve by the end of the year and hopefully we should be up to 3Ghz by then which would put Apple in the same leauge as AMD.

 

[logical001]

If these PM specs turn out to be true and not MP then Apple will be in real trouble.

In fact at somewhere like NAB you will just push everyone into the AMD and Avid camp as you can have a faster PC at a lower price comapred to an under spec 2.7 Mac with sod all ram and soon to be redundant AGP.

What is the point in having a load of power hungry apps that are effectively running on 12month old hardware. It isn't as though you can say, well here is the ultimate editing laptop either. Overall serious f*ck up.

Hate to say it, but without dual core, I will probably be moving to AMD in the summer as per the earlier poster.

 

[BWhaler]

Does anybody else starting to feel that Think Secret is really taking the fun out of this. I mean the last 3-4 years have been great for macrumors and we all have had some fun here. But I am starting to feel the mystery beginning to slip. First we'll all comment on these NEW specs, then sit around later and talk about the REAL specs, and then how they compared, so on and so on. It used to be tantalizing to follow rumor sites, but now with Think Secret getting the inside track all the time, it's all getting rather dull.

I totally agree.

But don't worry. Apple is going to win the case, hands down. Despite some brilliant PR by the defense, TS doesn't have a chance of winning the case.

 

[yoji]

Holy Crap people, can we all take a step back and say rumor not fact.

 

[eric_n_dfw]

I knew i could rely on apple to blow it again , they should just quit the computer business sell OSX to M$ , make iPods and consumer electronics.
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AMD and Intel will have Dual Core CPU's on store shelves by summer. I'm sure we can expect A Singel Core Athlon FX-59 3.0ghz 1MB L2 by November since the FX-55 2.8ghz 1MB L2 is expected in May.

Unless they do port OS X to AMD or Intel then all of your points are fairly irrelevant to me and the majority of people here.

If OS X ran on those processors, I'd switch immediately. But it doesn't. Oh well.

 

[HiRez]

What about PCI Express? I'm quite happy with my dual 2.0 G5 with PCI-X at the moment, but I would not buy a new PowerMac at this time without PCI Express. That is clearly going to be very important, and soon.

 

[BakedBeans]

Holy Crap people, can we all take a step back and say rumor not fact.

to be honest, thinksecret is going to get these right - they just will be

2.7 dual core = me getting one
2.7 single core = me thinking about what to get and more than likely getting 2.3

 

[840quadra]

Reliable source or not.. I am waiting to hear it from apple.. Just like the Tiger release information.

Until, then, and even after I will be happy with my Dual 2.0 G5

 

[aafuss1]

Looks like nothing materialized regarding iBook upgrades, as Appleinsider had reported two weeks ago.

Oh well. Maybe later.

I agree-perhaps we'll see the iBook upgraded in the next couple of months, maybe featuring a new design (the current design has been around for nearly 4 years).

 

[jiggie2g]

True but so far most consumer PC Mobos available and soon to be available for Dual Core Processors will still only support one Processor for both Intel and AMD. Seeing how most PowerMacs are allready Dual Processor the difference won't be that big comparing Dual Processor Power Macs to Single Processor Dual Core AMD and Intel Machines.

I have seen the Anandtech articles about Dual Core and the performance does not impress me the least. In fact the Multitasking on Windows machines using Dual Proccessors or Dual Core is poor when comparing to OSX. OSX while not perfect at multitasking but can still handle better than Windows. Remember OSX was built with SMP in mind and has much more optimizations in the OS to take advantage of multiple threads. Apple's entire PowerMac lineup has been built around Dual processors at times for years now and that's why OSX is better than Windows when we are talking about multitasking. In fact Apple has been building MP machines for the past 10 years since the days of the PowerPC 604.

Anyhow even if the next update is not Dual Core I imagine we should have Dual Cored PowerMacs or Xserve by the end of the year and hopefully we should be up to 3Ghz by then which would put Apple in the same leauge as AMD.

Difference won't be that big, what planet did you just land from. Apple has been getting Killed by AMD and Intel for what seems like forever now , and the fact that theses machines are single coire doesn't help the matter either.

I don't know what benchmarks you were looking at , but with the expection of games , just about every other program saw an increase from 25%-50% DVD Shrink times were almost cut in half and once code becomes optimized over the next 12-18 months that gap will only get bigger...much bigger.

 

[chubad]

I agree. If these are dual core it will be awsome! If not it will be really lame for an upgrade. Not to mention STILL not hitting 3ghz.

 

[aswitcher]

I agree-perhaps we'll see the iBook upgraded in the next couple of months, maybe featuring a new design (the current design has been around for nearly 4 years).

Yeah, I am hoping they go colours in the iPod mini look.

 

[iGary]

Still only 512mb RAM on the PMs?

Misers. Cheapskates. Penny-pinching bastards...

Yes.

Underwhelming speed increases, and they crippled the low-end again.

Giving this one a negative.

250GB HDD in the iMac - WHY?

Blah.

 

[mad jew]

Yay! New iMacs here we come! 128Mb will be able to handle Tiger, right?

 

[Latino4Me]

Only 2.7Ghz?

I can not help but wonder: Shouldn't MAC be at over 3Ghz by now?
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Jobs promised 3 Ghz Macs by this time LAST YEAR! Do we blame IBM only for that broken promise?

 

[nichos]

I totally agree.

But don't worry. Apple is going to win the case, hands down. Despite some brilliant PR by the defense, TS doesn't have a chance of winning the case.

I think it's one of those "if you don't like it, don't look." Seriosuly, if you're at a rumors site, you should expect to see some rumors, and some of them will be true. Why would you come here if you don't want to see spoilers?

 

[dubbz]

True but so far most consumer PC Mobos available and soon to be available for Dual Core Processors will still only support one Processor for both Intel and AMD.

True for Intel. You'll need a new motherboard with new chipsets. But not true for AMD. According to them the only thing needed for most (Socket 939/Athlon64 and Socket 940/Opteron) motherboards will be a BIOS upgrade. Seems like they planned ahead.

 

[zelmo]

Just got the go ahead to order 4 iMacs for work (perfect for our preflight department). Guess I'll be sitting on the purchase order for a couple of weeks.

 

[nichos]

Does this mean they're going to drop the single proc. PM, and make the 2.0 the low end, and drop it down to $1500? That would be $1000 off! Heres hoping!

 

[vouder17]

Wooohoo, atlast a decent GPu for the iMac. i think i will buy one before school starts in August..

 

[BwanaZulia]

I agree.

Double agree.

If they only got from 2.5Ghz -> 2.7Ghz in a year, they are just wasting time. These HAVE to be dual core, otherwise Apple will be laughing stock and I will just go by a Dual 2.0 refurb.

BZ

 

[JzzTrump22]

I think they could have improved the eMac a little more. But i guess they realize theres no point now that they have the mini. I was really hoping the PM's would hit 3.0 ghz. Good job with the iMacs Apple!

 

[andiwm2003]

imacs are o.k. especially with the new gpu. but i'm waiting for a 23" model.
so i just ordered a new mountain bike and go for the 23" imac that will be there by the end of the summer

andi

 

[Pringolian]

What for WWDC?

With all these updates imminent, I am intrigued as to what Jobs has for WWDC. I know in the past that updates between machines have been as little as 3 months so it could be possible that the PowerBook would get another upgrade but then a Dual core G4 PowerBook and only a Single on the PowerMac aint gonna happen.

All of this seems unlikely, so I guess some mysterious HD related device/s may appear with G5 iPods sporting video/wireless capabilities that allow all these devices to 'talk' to each other?

All this speculating is giving me headaches,

 

[ManchesterTrix]

Difference won't be that big, what planet did you just land from. Apple has been getting Killed by AMD and Intel for what seems like forever now , and the fact that theses machines are single coire doesn't help the matter either.

I don't know what benchmarks you were looking at , but with the expection of games , just about every other program saw an increase from 25%-50% DVD Shrink times were almost cut in half and once code becomes optimized over the next 12-18 months that gap will only get bigger...much bigger.

As dissatisfied as you sound, switch. Apple is not going to satisfy you, so you should just switch. This is how Apple has operated since Jobs returned, and since their profits and revenues keep increasing, I doubt it's going to change. Unless Apple starts using Intel/AMD hardware, they will never match the raw hardware performance. Accept it or move on, but you shouldn't cause yourself grief over Apple. It's not worth it. Despite what's said XP isn't the worst thing in the world.