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PowerMac G5, iMac G5, eMac Specs

If the PMacs were NOT dual core I think we would have heard something. I hope that the new PMacs are dual core, otherwise I think Steve will be wanting some cream on his humble-pie. :D

Come on Apple, don't let us down.......Please!
 
If they got them up to 2.7ghz that means they are really 3 ghz machines. Apple always down clocks there machines. I bet this is a just to tide the masses over till back to school gets here. We will see 3 ghz then its a marketing game.
 
BwanaZulia said:
Double agree.

If they only got from 2.5Ghz -> 2.7Ghz in a year, they are just wasting time. These HAVE to be dual core, otherwise Apple will be laughing stock and I will just go by a Dual 2.0 refurb.

BZ
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I would place odds on them being single core, I'd also place odds that outside of little internet communities, Apple won't be a laughing stock and their revenues and profits continue to increase.
 
stolfi1 said:
If they got them up to 2.7ghz that means they are really 3 ghz machines. Apple always down clocks there machines. I bet this is a just to tide the masses over till back to school gets here. We will see 3 ghz then its a marketing game.
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They sure as hell didn't clock down the 2.5s
 
baaa

Again an little update, all this time for this?
Its just like the PB update, a little 10% speed increase is all that they can do in almost a year of waiting.
And DL burners, thats a cheap 70 USD upgrade!!! (109, 108)
I just hope they are Dual Core, i think they are not anyway!

baaa, just sad, les hope am wrong!
 
my question is...are those g5's still going to sound like a hairdryer running under or on your desk? *what's that you say*? I CAN"T HEAR YOU SPEAK UP!!!
 
I wonder if it is possible that we may see a new pro line of machines. While Dual core is the way forward but as it stands the speed improvement won't be that noticable, you only need see the benchmarks for the new dual core P4's. Software needs to be optimised and OS X's SMP support needs to be drastically improved.
We also don't know what kind of pricing these dual cores will come in at and also the quantity. Xserves would benefit form many cores but why not introduce a no holes barred top of the line desktop. Stuff price simply pack it full of as much high end technology as possible, if nothing else they will eventually be able to filter it down to lower cost models. They have enough for the R&D and the apple brand continues to sell despite the higher price and what many believe to be inferior specs.
Who knows, certainly not I. But I for one couldn't give a stuff whether these are dual core or not. For now the important thing is GHz, the only reason the industry is going dual core is because single chips cannot produce the ooommph while meeting reasonable power and heat requirements. If they top out at 2.7GHz that will be disappointing especially if they aren't ready to ship straight away.
I honestly cannot believe IBM has taken this long to develop and ship a 200MHz upgrade, I wonder how much of it is to do with apple and the need to announce products at specific times rather than simply updating as and when they can. Come on apple, just put a Cell in my Powermac and stop farting around with the same old mundane chips and technologies... think different!
 
Bear said:
The 970MP has (as mentioned) 1MB of L2 Cache per core. Also the FS (at last info on the 970MP) ran at 1/3rd of the system clock speed. Although this could have changed between the last info on the 970MP and now.

Also, in theory the 970MP was supposed to make an appearance at 3GHz.
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I'd heard that the 970MPs would have an increased L2 cache, as that seems to be a step everyone is taking to work around the flagging rate of rise in core clock, but I don't at all remember hearing that the bus would be reduced. Why would that in any way be beneficial or even sensible, with both chips needing more bandwidth? That's especially nonsensical if, as you say, the MP chips would show up at an even higher core (say, at 3 gigahertz) because they'd need more data to keep them fed.

I find it highly unlikely that the core frequency and the number of cores will rise at the same time, especially considering that every other multicore chip coming to market is doing so at a lower than single-core stepping. Intel is doing it, AMD is doing it, and I would be deeply surprised to find out IBM managed it.

As for the rest of it... Someone will always find something to complain about when Apple revises their machines. If they offer 512MB of RAM and a 9600, there will be people whining that it's not a gigabyte and an 6600GT. It's just the way of things.
 
sandau said:
my question is...are those g5's still going to sound like a hairdryer running under or on your desk? *what's that you say*? I CAN"T HEAR YOU SPEAK UP!!!
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My G5 (dual 2.5) runs at 36 decibels far quieter than the first generation. Not all G5's are loud people need to realise that.
 
Latino4Me said:
I can not help but wonder: Shouldn't MAC be at over 3Ghz by now?
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Jobs promised 3 Ghz Macs by this time LAST YEAR! Do we blame IBM only for that broken promise?
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My guess the reason behind this, is that it isnt just a 200mhz jump but also MP. So yeah i think that a 2.7GHZ MP will out perform a single core 3GHZ.

DjVoTeZ
 
psycho bob said:
Software needs to be optimised and OS X's SMP support needs to be drastically improved.
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If you took a look at tigers new features you would see that tiger now has fine grain kenrel locking for smp.....
 
If these are correct specs then it really shows they hit the wall with G5 & G4. not impressive at all. A year is to long of wait if this is Apples best. They should just start bumping the models up during production runs.
 
these are single core processors, the newer GX kind that run a little cooler instead of the older FX kind that needed that liquid cooling system for the 2.5 gig ones, but still they're not going to be multicore. the hope for me that they will at least do some other internal updates such as PCI-Express since this is going to really just be little more than a speed bump. of course i say all this not having any kind of money to actually purchase something. once i do i'll be pretty happy no matter what they offer.
 
G.Kirby said:
I'm a happy chappy. :) PM dual 2Ghz More RAM, better but not great Graphcs card, Big HD. Nice bonus with the optical drive. This is now a good base level machine.....as long as the price stays around £1,150 mark.

Any how, this is the Mac that I will be getting, I should last me the next 4 years. :D
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Yes if they come out with one like that and keep the price down then it is OK ;)
 
Mmm, hopefully the PowerMac specs will be better than this. On the iMac and eMac side, things are looking better. Hopefully, Apple will put an ATI Radeon 9600 XT in every Mac as standard to make every Mac sold as of April 29 fully compliant with Tiger's Core Image. Come one Apple, give people a Mac mini with a 64 MB Radeon 9600.
 
the GX and MP have 1MB L2 cache so the confirmed specs have an error, i know for a fact that there is more coming than those specs, dual dual core 2.7GHz would be good, especially as intel can only put out a 3.2GHz dual core p4.
 
I'm satisfied, They updated the iMac with exactly what I want, an updated graphics card, more ram, and cheaper (hopefully).

To all you people that are complaining about not having dual core. CHILL OUT!!!! It's just a rumor, it might be completely correct, it might not, but in the past, not every rumor has been correct. Alot of people thought tiger was going to be announced on April 1st. Alot of people thought iBooks were going to be updated when tiger was announced. It didn't happen!! As trustworthy as ThinkSecret is, there is always a chance that their source is wrong.
 
The Man said:
Come one Apple, give people a Mac mini with a 64 MB Radeon 9600.
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I'm honestly not sure that you could get a mini to run with a 9600, a mobility 9600 but that raises the price significantly higher.
 
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