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PowerMac G5, iMac G5, eMac Specs
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crawdad62 said:
I agree. I joined this board in December of '03 in order to see if there would be rev. b G5s at MacWorld '04. If these specs are correct the WinTel world will be laughing their heads off.
B-52 Macer said:
well in three years not only will they be collectors items they will be oozing nuclear stations too
its a leaky problem waiting to happen. I wouldnt buy one new or used..
I'm guessing the significant video card improvements are part of the "Year of HD," and the fact that Apple's been behind the curve on this one for quite some time.
Nice HD improvements as well, and nice to see the dual 2.0 still will have the 1GHz FSB (2).
If that comes in under 2G's, I'm buying.
Nice HD improvements as well, and nice to see the dual 2.0 still will have the 1GHz FSB (2).
If that comes in under 2G's, I'm buying.
iGary said:
I agree. My needs are only consistent with a lower-end PM, so I wouldn't mind if these were not dual core machines. I was looking for price cuts and better base RAM, and GPU. However, if my livelihood would benefit from having an ultra high end Mac, I'd be disappointed.
iGary said:
Just the machine I was waiting for...the iMac 20"! One Click ready to go when Apple opens the store
OT Gary...a past St Margarets Road resident in the mid '80s. Love Annapolis and Chesapeake Bay!
NevadaJack said:Just the machine I was waiting for...the iMac 20"! One Click ready to go when Apple opens the store
OT Gary...a past St Margarets Road resident in the mid '80s. Love Annapolis and Chesapeake Bay!
I lived at 1745 St. Maragarets in the late 80's..
I'm now downtown.
It is a great area, but unless my business takes off, I'm gonna get priced out of here.
csubear said:
I found the reference, they don't give much information on it do they. I suspect there will be a developer doc somewhere on it. I've only gone of what programmers with BETA versions said. This will be great for all multiprocessor macs if it is implemented well.
Let the bitchfest begin! Oh wait, I'm too late.Macrumors said:
ThinkSecret cites "highly reliable" source to provide us with detailed specs about upcoming hardware releases.
The new PowerMacs are said to top out at 2.7GHz in the following configurations:
Dual 2.0GHz, Dual 2.3GHz and Dual 2.7GHz with 512MB RAM featuring SuperDrives with dual-layer DVD+R support. No reliable info if the new processors will offer the multi-core 970MP or not.
The iMac G5 will reach 2GHz with two 17" and one 20" configuration, while the eMac will come with 1.25 and 1.42 GHz G4 processors as well an upgraded video card (64MB ATI Radeon 9600) to take advantage of Tiger's Core Image.
JasonL said:
Ditto. Not currently having a Mac at home the new bottom end PMac is just what I am after.
However, I can see why people are not happy with the top end specs. At the end of the day you wouldn't buy a Ferrari knowing that it had a VW engine.
If they are not dual core then I can see Apple loosing ground to PC's
Single core = BZ buys refurbed 2.0 G5, ATI X800, 2 x 24" Dell LCD, 4 GB RAM, 2 x 250 GB SATA Drives = $5,000
Dual Core = BZ buys 2.5Gz NEW G5, 2 x 24" Dell LCD, 2 GB Ram, 1 250 GB Sata Drive = $5,000
BZ
Dual Core = BZ buys 2.5Gz NEW G5, 2 x 24" Dell LCD, 2 GB Ram, 1 250 GB Sata Drive = $5,000
BZ
Apple will probably do like it always does - put the Latest and Greatest New Technology in the top end model only.
So basically, only the 2.7 will be both Dual Core and Dual Processor, while all the other ones will just be Single Core, Dual Processor.
That way, the top end model will still be a significant increase over the previous top end model, while the bottom models will still receive decent updates (more hd space, better optical drives, better vid cards, small cpu boost - probably a small price reduction too).
Mark my words, that is how it's going to be. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if new models were re-engineered and had room for an extra drive or two.
My only question is are they still going to cripple the bottom models w/ regular PCI? (instead of PCI-X)
So basically, only the 2.7 will be both Dual Core and Dual Processor, while all the other ones will just be Single Core, Dual Processor.
That way, the top end model will still be a significant increase over the previous top end model, while the bottom models will still receive decent updates (more hd space, better optical drives, better vid cards, small cpu boost - probably a small price reduction too).
Mark my words, that is how it's going to be. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if new models were re-engineered and had room for an extra drive or two.
My only question is are they still going to cripple the bottom models w/ regular PCI? (instead of PCI-X)
Unbelievable!
I built that house at 1745 St Margarets Road in 1983 and sold it in 1986 or 87. Are you kidding me...a small world, holy geez!
iGary said:I lived at 1745 St. Maragarets in the late 80's..
I'm now downtown.
It is a great area, but unless my business takes off, I'm gonna get priced out of here.
I built that house at 1745 St Margarets Road in 1983 and sold it in 1986 or 87. Are you kidding me...a small world, holy geez!
Cooknn said:Or could Apple be holding back info from Think Secret
No news is good news in my book. Even if it is a bit irritating.
Because of all the information leaks Apple has had in the last few months perhaps This is a bit of misdirection. While everyone is chopsin' about RAM this, GPU that, Apple can then come forward with a nice big surprise......i hope!
Weren't the dual core procs supposed to be able to handle 16GB of RAM? If the top end PM still maxes out at 8GB does that mean it can't be a dual core machine?
Also, what's the deal with apple always crippling the low end PM? 4GB max RAM instead of 8GB, and I'm sure if we do happen to see PCIe, it will be in everything except the low end, which will probably remain the same old PCI, probably not even PCI-X...makes me kind of angry
Also, what's the deal with apple always crippling the low end PM? 4GB max RAM instead of 8GB, and I'm sure if we do happen to see PCIe, it will be in everything except the low end, which will probably remain the same old PCI, probably not even PCI-X...makes me kind of angry
All you naysayers, chill. I have been dying for a new tower and wanted to wait for the updates. I will get the middle of the road 2.3 Ghz and be very happy. After my 800mhz iMac G4, each processor will be three times as fast as my current computer.
All you complainers are following this almost exactly:
http://www.misterbg.org/AppleProductCycle/
If you can't laugh at that, you aren't a big enough Mac fan!
I don't care what apple ships, dual layer burners would be nice (yesssss!), as would dual core, but I'll take any speed boost I can for Cinema 4d.
All you guys who say apple will lose market share should look at how well G5's perform for Pro tasks like DVD Studio Pro, Final Cut, and Cinema 4d. The Mac implementation of Open GL holds back the real time performance of C4d but the full rendering speed (raytracing and radiosity) is the best for the buck. I came very, VERY close to switching to a PC lately. But for those of us who do pro work, the Mac is a (begin Donnie Brasco accent) beautiful thing.
nice work Apple. My only problem is that THEY AREN'T HERE YET.
All you complainers are following this almost exactly:
http://www.misterbg.org/AppleProductCycle/
If you can't laugh at that, you aren't a big enough Mac fan!
I don't care what apple ships, dual layer burners would be nice (yesssss!), as would dual core, but I'll take any speed boost I can for Cinema 4d.
All you guys who say apple will lose market share should look at how well G5's perform for Pro tasks like DVD Studio Pro, Final Cut, and Cinema 4d. The Mac implementation of Open GL holds back the real time performance of C4d but the full rendering speed (raytracing and radiosity) is the best for the buck. I came very, VERY close to switching to a PC lately. But for those of us who do pro work, the Mac is a (begin Donnie Brasco accent) beautiful thing.
nice work Apple. My only problem is that THEY AREN'T HERE YET.
kherdin said:
I'll agree, to a point, that Apple is good at separating their top-top-of-the-line PM from the other PMs.
However, they are also known to sometimes just do a speedbump on all 3 of the PM's (and sometimes do that 2-3 times consecutively) before something major.
Here's hoping for something cool, because that 2.7 is mine, regardless of single or dual-core.
G.Kirby said:
Yeah, there is room for some surprises, maybe:
Use of CELL chips for graphics
Use of specialized chips to offload h264 encoding/decoding
If these new Upgrades are announced at NAB, then either/both of the above would be very significant to that audience.
While the powermac is a shame, the Rev B iMac is everything I have wanted. 2 ghz, BLUETOOTH, and better graphics card. My 17" G4 iMac is still humming along fine (minus the lack of core image in a few weeks) but when these new imacs reach rev C I just might be tempted to buy one considering the above specs have happened.
Personal Theory: when the model of computer you bought is now available at more than twice the speed of yours, think about upgrading, so for me that is the middle iMac greater than 2 ghz in speed.
Anyways, I'm looking forward to Sunday's pro video announcements of products that will not work on my machine and if they did would go very slowly. Oh well, I couldn't get any film classes for next semester anyways.
Personal Theory: when the model of computer you bought is now available at more than twice the speed of yours, think about upgrading, so for me that is the middle iMac greater than 2 ghz in speed.
Anyways, I'm looking forward to Sunday's pro video announcements of products that will not work on my machine and if they did would go very slowly. Oh well, I couldn't get any film classes for next semester anyways.
Why so negative???
I don't know why this is receiving so many negative respones, just because of the PowerMacs? Come on no one buys the dang things anyway because they are way overpriced.
Key here is Apple's main prosumer computer the iMac is now a deal as long as they dont increase prices. It seems most every complaint you get from users is Video Card and RAM. Well no complaining now, plus they threw in Bluetooth. I don't remember seeing faster SuperDrives being inclued though?
Basically now I can buy the computer I wanted with only two slight modifications - wifi and more 512 additional RAM. Ahh I am excited!!!
I don't know why this is receiving so many negative respones, just because of the PowerMacs? Come on no one buys the dang things anyway because they are way overpriced.
Key here is Apple's main prosumer computer the iMac is now a deal as long as they dont increase prices. It seems most every complaint you get from users is Video Card and RAM. Well no complaining now, plus they threw in Bluetooth. I don't remember seeing faster SuperDrives being inclued though?
Basically now I can buy the computer I wanted with only two slight modifications - wifi and more 512 additional RAM. Ahh I am excited!!!