i dont understand how one rumor site can say that have employees telling them they're all wrapped and packaged and sitting in storage when this comes along...it's ridiculous and annoying...im tired of these rumorsites...i'd rather watch E! and learn about Jlo's huge booty
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PowerMacs NOT (Shipping) at WWDC?
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pyrotoaster
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I can't understand why everyone thinks that "rumblings" mean there definitely won't be a Powermac at the WWDC.
Every single rumor has it's "rumblings." There's always some piece of info that doesn't support it, or conflicting rumors that confuse us.
Some "rumblings" don't have me worried. 🙄
Every single rumor has it's "rumblings." There's always some piece of info that doesn't support it, or conflicting rumors that confuse us.
Some "rumblings" don't have me worried. 🙄
Strange this info came out the same day the WWDC Keynote was quietly extended by 30mins, could this be a bit of Apple misinformation to quell the rumourmongers in order to heighten the 'one last thing' thing that Steve seems to love doing so much.
Conspiracy theorists ready?
Personally, I'd be really happy just to hear Steve announce that something is definitely on its way eg 'Delivery in a month'. 'Available today' would naturally be great.
Anyway in a few days time we will all know, except me, I'll be on holiday in Spain.
Conspiracy theorists ready?
Personally, I'd be really happy just to hear Steve announce that something is definitely on its way eg 'Delivery in a month'. 'Available today' would naturally be great.
Anyway in a few days time we will all know, except me, I'll be on holiday in Spain.
cliffm
macrumors member
Are we forgetting the Powerbooks?
With all these rumors floating around that the 970s will be *availible* right after WDC, lets not forget that Steve announced the new PowerBooks at MWSF and they didnt start shipping until *months* after the fact. Same could be true here, especially since the OS hasn't been optimized for the new chips yet.
With all these rumors floating around that the 970s will be *availible* right after WDC, lets not forget that Steve announced the new PowerBooks at MWSF and they didnt start shipping until *months* after the fact. Same could be true here, especially since the OS hasn't been optimized for the new chips yet.
New powermacs
I thought that new PowerMac might not be on the way for some time. However, that fact that upgrade makers are now making 1.4 GHz chips. In the past apple has made sure that upgrades are not faster then there current best system. So it only seems logical that new systems are on the way.
I thought that new PowerMac might not be on the way for some time. However, that fact that upgrade makers are now making 1.4 GHz chips. In the past apple has made sure that upgrades are not faster then there current best system. So it only seems logical that new systems are on the way.
shipping at WWDC and them being presented are two different things. The former much less likely than the latter.
As much as I want the PowerMac with IBM PowerPC 970 (I don't care about the eventual product name) to debut at the WWDC like everyone, but if not, then I don't consider that would be the end of Apple, or the world for that matter. We all can be disappointed, but I hope people will not turn bitter, as seen sometimes in this forum.
BEYOND THE RUMOUR SITES!!!
Beyond the rumour sites!
Beyond the rumour sites!
Beyond the rumour sites!
Beyond the rumour sites!
Beyond the rumour sites!
Beyond the rumour sites!
pyrotoaster
macrumors 65816
It'll be interesting to see what kind of hype Apple winds up putting up for the Keynote. Something along the lines of the LCD iMac's buzz would be quite cool. 😉
Truth be told, Powermac 970 pre-orders would probably boost the current Powermac sales (let's all blame Moto!).
All Steve has to do is announce the new Powermac. Apple starts taking orders, and a month or so later, people start getting them.
Truth be told, Powermac 970 pre-orders would probably boost the current Powermac sales (let's all blame Moto!).
DejaVu
I remember the rumor mill leading up to last years MWNY. Almost every rumor site was certain the G5s were coming out. This all seems strangely familiar. All of the people I know who work at Apple have been saying for the last year to wait until September to buy a new Mac. So unless something really cool comes out, thats what I am going to do.
I remember the rumor mill leading up to last years MWNY. Almost every rumor site was certain the G5s were coming out. This all seems strangely familiar. All of the people I know who work at Apple have been saying for the last year to wait until September to buy a new Mac. So unless something really cool comes out, thats what I am going to do.
Re: Are we forgetting the Powerbooks?
I think a long-lead pre-annouce of PPC970-based Macs is very unlikely (one week would be pushing it). Once the PPC970 becomes public knowledge Apple will almost have to give away any remaining G4-based PowerMacs. It seems to me that some are overlooking an important factor in these rumors, the change to the PPC970 is going to be a huge, Huge, HUGE event. Probably the most important technological/hardware event to happen at Apple since the original move to to the PowerPC. That means that it will be one of the biggest announcements from Apple in the last decade. However, the original change to the PPC preceded the instant news and access that the internet provides today, so this transition is going to happen in a brave new world of customer knowledge (and rumor). Thus, I expect that Apple will keep information concerning the PPC970 as secret as possible for as long as possible.
Another issue to consider is that false rumors concerning hardware introductions at WWDC could actually be more harmful to Apple than would leaks about the truth (assuming that there is any truth to the WWDC rumors). Apple certainly doesn't want expectations (or rumors) to run long before they actually introduce the PPC970. If the latter happens Apple could lose the equivalent of several weeks of PowerMac sales rather than a small downturn between now and WWDC. Thus efforts to squash rumors (whether true or false) make perfect sense given the importance of any timeline for the PPC970.
I think a long-lead pre-annouce of PPC970-based Macs is very unlikely (one week would be pushing it). Once the PPC970 becomes public knowledge Apple will almost have to give away any remaining G4-based PowerMacs. It seems to me that some are overlooking an important factor in these rumors, the change to the PPC970 is going to be a huge, Huge, HUGE event. Probably the most important technological/hardware event to happen at Apple since the original move to to the PowerPC. That means that it will be one of the biggest announcements from Apple in the last decade. However, the original change to the PPC preceded the instant news and access that the internet provides today, so this transition is going to happen in a brave new world of customer knowledge (and rumor). Thus, I expect that Apple will keep information concerning the PPC970 as secret as possible for as long as possible.
Another issue to consider is that false rumors concerning hardware introductions at WWDC could actually be more harmful to Apple than would leaks about the truth (assuming that there is any truth to the WWDC rumors). Apple certainly doesn't want expectations (or rumors) to run long before they actually introduce the PPC970. If the latter happens Apple could lose the equivalent of several weeks of PowerMac sales rather than a small downturn between now and WWDC. Thus efforts to squash rumors (whether true or false) make perfect sense given the importance of any timeline for the PPC970.
g3ski
macrumors member
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I really said "AHHHHHH"...but mostly for fun, since this is a RUMORS site.
If they demo a 970, that would still rock, even if it ships in late August. When we heard the original rumors of the 970, there was talk of a late 2003/early 2004 ship date, so a demo in June is WAY ahead of the expectations.
Now that a G4/1.4Ghz upgrade card is available for just $600, it wouldn't be the end of the world if the 970 didn't ship until end of summer (that's september folks).
here to another week of anxiously waiting 😎
I really said "AHHHHHH"...but mostly for fun, since this is a RUMORS site.
If they demo a 970, that would still rock, even if it ships in late August. When we heard the original rumors of the 970, there was talk of a late 2003/early 2004 ship date, so a demo in June is WAY ahead of the expectations.
Now that a G4/1.4Ghz upgrade card is available for just $600, it wouldn't be the end of the world if the 970 didn't ship until end of summer (that's september folks).
here to another week of anxiously waiting 😎
How fast and when
Q. How fast does the next processor need to be?
A. Twice as fast as the fastest Pentium 4. Nothing else matters.
Q. Once we have it, when does the next upgrade need to be released?
A. Always BEFORE the next PC processor. Nothing else matters.
Q. How fast does the next processor need to be?
A. Twice as fast as the fastest Pentium 4. Nothing else matters.
Q. Once we have it, when does the next upgrade need to be released?
A. Always BEFORE the next PC processor. Nothing else matters.
CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!~)
I would hope the new machines will come out when all is well with them and they are ready to kick serious a$$ and not before. I for one am really excited to see what Panther could be about and what it might be like to use it. The 23rd is my birthday and I'd like to see apple come out with new machines. At the same time I won't buy the first rev. or maybe not even the 2nd. so the sooner and longer they can be out the better. These sources might not be so great as already stated so who knows. I'm so glad I have such great equipment to enjoy now. Thanks to the MacRumors crew for being here..
On with the show! 🙂
I would hope the new machines will come out when all is well with them and they are ready to kick serious a$$ and not before. I for one am really excited to see what Panther could be about and what it might be like to use it. The 23rd is my birthday and I'd like to see apple come out with new machines. At the same time I won't buy the first rev. or maybe not even the 2nd. so the sooner and longer they can be out the better. These sources might not be so great as already stated so who knows. I'm so glad I have such great equipment to enjoy now. Thanks to the MacRumors crew for being here..
On with the show! 🙂
Given all of the information we have accumulated up until this point, it appears likely that the Power Mac G5 will be announced at WWDC, but won't ship for a minimum of six weeks.
I'm just excited for the preview of Panther. I'd be ecstatic if they show it running on a G5.
I'm just excited for the preview of Panther. I'd be ecstatic if they show it running on a G5.
pyrotoaster
macrumors 65816
I just wrote this, and seems relevant enough to post here. Enjoy!
Originally written for and posted at MacUnderground
Doubts, second guesses, and T-minus 11 days, 16 hours, and 15 minutes...
Oh my! Rumor followers everywhere are jumping into a frenzied panic over something mentioned in today's episode of As the Apple Turns.
Here's what they're panicking about (if you haven't already read it and begun screaming while falling to the floor and curling up in a fetal position):
First, let me calm you down in a nice reassuring way: Calm down, and put down that can of Vanilla Coke.
Alright. Are we all calm now? Good. Because now I'm going to shout at the good people at As the Apple Turns. What the hell?! There. Now I feel better.
Yes, let's not look too far into these "rumblings." Every rumor has its rumblings of doubts, second guesses, illogical conclusions, and conflicting information. That's why they call them "rumors." And some people (like myself) find them quite entertaining.
All rumors have rumblings. We've now established that. Also, some people have pointed out that this only refers to whether the Powermacs are ready to sell. Apple could easily announce new Powermacs at the WWDC Keynote, start taking pre-orders, and then start shipping them in four to eight weeks (al la the 17" Powerbook back at MWSF). The same thing applies to Xserves and Powerbooks.
So, there's really no reason to panic over these "rumblings." For all we know, they could be a ploy by Apple to divert our attention from the fact that an additional 30 minutes has been tacked on Steve Jobs's keynote speech.
Remember, these rumblings are rumors themselves. And, come on!, how accurate are rumors?! Wait... that came out wrong...
Originally written for and posted at MacUnderground
Doubts, second guesses, and T-minus 11 days, 16 hours, and 15 minutes...
Oh my! Rumor followers everywhere are jumping into a frenzied panic over something mentioned in today's episode of As the Apple Turns.
Here's what they're panicking about (if you haven't already read it and begun screaming while falling to the floor and curling up in a fetal position):
Yes, apparently we're so jumpy from our Starbuck's Double Shot's and Caribou Coffee Chai Teas that "the faintest rumblings" send us into a wild panic.
First, let me calm you down in a nice reassuring way: Calm down, and put down that can of Vanilla Coke.
Alright. Are we all calm now? Good. Because now I'm going to shout at the good people at As the Apple Turns. What the hell?! There. Now I feel better.
Yes, let's not look too far into these "rumblings." Every rumor has its rumblings of doubts, second guesses, illogical conclusions, and conflicting information. That's why they call them "rumors." And some people (like myself) find them quite entertaining.
All rumors have rumblings. We've now established that. Also, some people have pointed out that this only refers to whether the Powermacs are ready to sell. Apple could easily announce new Powermacs at the WWDC Keynote, start taking pre-orders, and then start shipping them in four to eight weeks (al la the 17" Powerbook back at MWSF). The same thing applies to Xserves and Powerbooks.
So, there's really no reason to panic over these "rumblings." For all we know, they could be a ploy by Apple to divert our attention from the fact that an additional 30 minutes has been tacked on Steve Jobs's keynote speech.
Remember, these rumblings are rumors themselves. And, come on!, how accurate are rumors?! Wait... that came out wrong...
solvs
macrumors 603
Arn, you're being far too nice.
If you don't like the rumors, why are you here? This is MacRUMORS! Sorry, but people who come here and complain about this stuff bug me. These are rumors, not facts. Even if you come here for other stuff, why would you click on this link?
Yer just asking for it.
Back on topic: we'll see what happens kids. I wanna be excited, but I don't wanna get my hopes up.