PowerMacs NOT (Shipping) at WWDC?

[elvisizer]

i'm really surprised how many people are losing hope for 970-based macs based solely on atat's little blurb. they're not traditionally in the rumor biz, and they DID say it was just the smallest whisper.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're just reacting to the amount of rumors and traffic lately at rumor sites. gettin' in on a little of that action is just trashy enough to fit into the atat world view.
i mean, I love that site, it's very amusing, but they say RIGHT ON THE PAGE not to take them seriously at all. so why is everyone doing just that?
chill out everyone. 970 based macs will be here sooner rather than later, even if they don't ship on june 23.

 

[Kid Red]

Originally posted by pyrotoaster
I see your point arn, but that doesn't change the fact that "rumblings" is still best word to describe this with. Every rumor has rumblings.

All we're looking at are rumors that the Powermac 970 rumor might wrong. I still see more than enough to convince me that Steve will walk out and at least announce the Powermac 970 (not to mention Powerbooks... 😉 ).

If the 970 is at WWDC, it's to be demoed to developers. I think everyone took the 'at WWDC' to mean they would be buying them at the end of the show. I am not surprised or disappointed by this because I'm still under the impression we are getting a fall release.

 

[TheOne]

I personally would be somewhat disapointed if the 970 is not at WWDC because I personally think the PPC970 is the perfect new microprocessor for the PowerMacs. With Motorola trying to sell off their entire PowerPC line with no interested buyers, that leaves Apple out in the cold in terms of new G4's speeds or even the possibility of Moto making a G5. I think there is a reason why there are these rumors going around about the PPC 970 that Apple has yet to just deny their existance in a Mac. It seems to me that Motorola is out, and IBM is in...

...If nothing else, we get to see what new stuff Panther will bring. (Something tells me it is 64-bit compatible😀 ) No matter what I think I will finally buy my 17 inch Powerbook by the end of WWDC.

 

[iAlan]

Here is my 2.4 yen worth...

Pro users are waiting for the 'G5' desktop.

If there is no working model, Apple will present the specs along with the new enclosures. Better yet, a working model with a live demo of Quark (which many have been waiting for, right?).

If they do announce, and allowing for a 1 month shipping delay between anouncement and avaialability, we will see avaialbility around the NY Expo (could the rescheduled WWDC dates have something to do with wanting to announce and ship at major events? Are any other 2 events this close together...?)

Don't know about the 15-inch PB though, or monitors.

With a bulk of the Mac community knowing something is just around the corner, shouldn't Apple put a little mirror at the corner so we can all see around it!!

I am not in the market for a new computer, happy with my 15" iMac. But Apple needs to let those of us who are waiting what is going on. I am guessing no-one is making big investments in Apple hardware with new stuff not far off. It would benefit Apple to let us know. Some may decide to buy existing models (which Apple will probably 'reprice' to clear stock) others will wait. But nearly everyone is waiting now!!

 

[tgrundke]

I'm sorry, I have to be a snarky jackass and state how *****ing funny it is to read the emotional roller-coaster that people are on over these boxes. It is entirely hysterical on one end and a bit sad on the other.

To be honest, this is simply because the introduction doesn't affect me one way or the other, I'm not buying a new computer for at least a year. However, it's still funny as hell to read.

 

[iAlan]

Originally posted by tgrundke
it is (funny) to read the emotional roller-coaster that people are on over these boxes. It is entirely hysterical on one end and a bit sad on the other.

Well, most Mac users are loyal and it would seem a tad emotional on this topic too.

That's why we love our community😛 😉 😛

Me, I cry everytime my computer crashes....which means i haven't cried since installing OS X😀

WWDC - Bring It On (suggestion for new event slogan)

 

[AidenShaw]

great observation

Originally posted by tgrundke
To be honest, this is simply because the introduction doesn't affect me one way or the other, I'm not buying a new computer for at least a year. However, it's still funny as hell to read.

Great observation - if you don't have a burning desire for a new Mac, from that detached viewpoint the whole show is amusing.


The sad part will be (sad for those not detached, that is) that the hype is so strong that everyone will be disappointed.

Jobs could show 1.8GHz G5 PowerBooks, and the crowd would sigh - "but we were expecting duals...". He could show dual 2GHz PowerMacs, and the sigh would be "we were expecting 2.5GHz". If he showed dual 2.5's, the cry would be "what about the quads?".

Maybe the published roadmap that the Intel world works from is not such a bad idea....

 

[rutabaga]

when does this get old?

hi everyone

just out of curiosity, is there a point in time when people reach rumor saturation? i mean, how many half-witted posts, half-baked rumor reports, myths, legends, and hearsay statements does it take before one throws up their hands and says "screw it all to hell" and decides to wait until june 23rd? isn't there a point when the corrobaration of the contradition to supposition behind the assumption should be taken with a grain of salt, not posted on the internet and then slobbered over for 9.24 hours until the next line of bull**** comes down the pipe? it truly begs the question: what the hell is the point of these rumor sites, and, more importantly, our infautation with them? is it to get accurate information so that we are more savvy mac consumers? or, as i am coming to believe, is it to whip ourselves into this mastubatory fantasy of mac-geekdom? please don't blow me off or call me a troll - i am truly curious, and thought that some self-reflection might be interesting.

thanks.

 

[Mudbug]

Re: when does this get old?

Originally posted by rutabaga

It never gets old - this is the game we all play, every time. Sometimes more heated than other, like this rumor, but all of them in one way or another are like this. I still come back wanting more, even if it's not true. If nothing else it gets me thinking about different ways of making my life better. And it's all about thinking different, isn't it?

<edit> and by the way, well written, i must say, rutabaga...</edit>

 

[macphisto]

Well, for Apple's sake, and the sake of the sanity of 92 percent of the mac users out there,...I hope, I really do hope something will happen hardware wise soon. Or else,...who knows.

Of course the rumors before a conference are always insane, up to the day of. Then, and only then will truth be known.

 

[SilentPanda]

Sooo... if this article is pulled from a cease & desist order from Apple Legal does that mean that the new PowerMacs are coming? 🙂

I'm just glad I'm leaving for Romania in 12 hours and won't be back until post-WWDC (only by 4 hours). Then I don't have to check the rumor sites every 10 minutes between now and then! Take care all!

 

[jbrown]

The truth is out there.....somewhere.

Originally posted by unsane1
Guess they will just have to have another simple Apple Event of their own? Unless Schiller introduces them at MacWorld Create?

Good Point - As far as I know there wont be a big mac do at the Create show, and for something as big as a change of processor, a change of design, and a change of OS -- in short mapping out Apples future in the medium term - I'm sure Apple would want as big an event as possible. Unlikely that they would do it on their own, as the other two shows would have bigger coverage. So unless there is a change of plan at the the Create show - ( or unless Uncle Steve is giving Captain Schiller a break! 😛 😛 😛 ), ...........

So I think it probable that the PMs to be announced at WWDC, and ship 1 month / 6 weeks later ( depending on specs ), which as far as I know how it usually works with their hardware releases.


PS - when do you lose the " Newbie " tag - I feel like a marked man!!😀

 

[caveman_uk]

My feeling is that Apple are unlikely to announce the 970s unless they are actually ready - they got shot at over the non-availability of the PB17 so I doubt they'd do it again. Sooooo if they are not ready they will not announce them. I do not doubt the 970 will be in a powermac pretty soon just maybe not at WWDC. I think the new PB15 is a dead cert though for WWDC but it will be a G4 machine. No 970 PBs for quite a time....

I don't care much personally as I'm not in the market for a new machine for at least a year - both my ibook and PM are quite new.

Remember - Apple never promised there would be 970's. We've just all convinced ourselves there will be. So don't whine when there isn't.

 

[NicoMan]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
If I can get a PowerBook G5, 15", before summers end, then I will be happy. But until this happens I am PowerBookless, and I am having one of those you-have-to-have-this times....

Forget about it, man. It ain't happening.

NicoMan

 

[NicoMan]

Originally posted by SilentPanda
Sooo... if this article is pulled from a cease & desist order from Apple Legal does that mean that the new PowerMacs are coming? 🙂

I'm just glad I'm leaving for Romania in 12 hours and won't be back until post-WWDC (only by 4 hours). Then I don't have to check the rumor sites every 10 minutes between now and then! Take care all!

Well have a good stay there away from it all. But we all know that everytime you are gonna walk past an internet cafe you are gonna be dying to go in there to check what's new... 😀
I'm almost in the same position. I'm off tomorrow morning to the south of France until monday 23rd (the day of the WWDC Keynote... no, that's a coincidence). And I won't be taking my iBook with me (thank god for that, cause my girlfriend would kill me) and it's going to be damn hard to stay 10 days without internet... (I can see myself on the beach with my hands twitching without a keyboard)

NicoMan

 

[Belly-laughs]

Panther on G5

To show off Panthers capabilities, speed enhancements and 64 bit advantages, wouldn´t they need to use a G5?

 

[jbrown]

Re: Panther on G5

Originally posted by Belly-laughs
To show off Panthers capabilities, speed enhancements and 64 bit advantages, wouldn´t they need to use a G5?

shhhhhh......don't use the jeee-v word......they're EVERYWHERE!!!!!
we'll be pulled for sure 😀 😛 🙄

 

[NW80pdx]

its sad..

Most of you were so happy to recieve your hardware 4 months ago, now you are in this pipe dream about a new machine! blah blah, waste your money, its just a computer..... I love Apple, but I don't need to waste $1500 or more everytime they come out with new machine.. its just a computer, they all basically function the same... who cares about about a .2 increase in speed? its time people start looking at a Mac like a computer instead of an obsession. Steve Jobs has you under his control, your giving up your money with a big smile, even though you arn't getting much in return, give it a year and this whole 970 crap will be a thing of the past, and you will all have your checkbooks open waiting for the next product, so you can dish out another $1500 for the next best thing from Apple. it's a shame that so many people sit around and waste money on computers that become outdated in 4 to 6 months!!!! pick a product and be happy.

 

[NW80pdx]

Originally posted by mania
Well, I got this from Steve. He says it will be worth it.

im sure Steve has better grammar than that, im also sure he knows how to use a comma... dude, if your gonna fake it, at least make sure its right.

 

[tazznb]

Originally posted by SilentPanda
Sooo... if this article is pulled from a cease & desist order from Apple Legal does that mean that the new PowerMacs are coming? 🙂

I'm just glad I'm leaving for Romania in 12 hours and won't be back until post-WWDC (only by 4 hours). Then I don't have to check the rumor sites every 10 minutes between now and then! Take care all!

Dude... that's waaaaay too long (10 min) to be waiting for updates every three minutes will keep me sedated.

BTW if I see no 970 machines mentioned, me and some other heart-broken mac users will find Steve's house, and throw rocks at the windows.

I feel a bit embarrassed at my comments.
I really wouldn't toss rocks....... eggs are much better.😉

 

[silvergunuk]

2 B or not 2 B?

I get the feeling Apples been planning on showing us the new macs at the wwdc since last year. There must be a reason why they had to push back the day of the wwdc, so they could have a more finished version of Panther that would make full use of the 970's artictecture. I still think the macs will be available after the conference, but only for developers who have to rewrite their software for the new machines, then maybe the new macs ship in time for Panther.

 

[mathiasr]

Originally posted by NW80pdx
im sure Steve has better grammar than that, im also sure he knows how to use a comma... dude, if your gonna fake it, at least make sure its right.

It's not a fake, all ADC members received it.

 

[eric_n_dfw]

Re: its sad..

Originally posted by NW80pdx
\ it's a shame that so many people sit around and waste money on computers that become outdated in 4 to 6 months!!!! pick a product and be happy.

Normally, I'd agree with you, but many people here have been waiting a lot longer than that for Apple to put out a machine worth that $1500+ I, for one, bought a used machine a few months ago to hold me over 'till the next generation because I refused to pay $2000 for a non-DDR hamstrung G4 machine. (non real DDR I should say)

PS: As an ADC member, I too got one of the postcard's from Steve emails - it's not a fake.

 

[gate]

I waited 5 years to update my PowerMac G3 233mhz to a new machine. I can afford to wait a few more weeks if I have to.

It's worth the wait.

 

[Stella]

No worries...

It doesn't really matter if no 970 based Macs are shipped in June.

However, it would be far more significant if they don't ship by the time Pather arrives...