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I'd still like to know why if I grab bunny ear antennas for a TV, the signal stays more consistent and in some cases, better. Based upon what I hear, it should get worse.

Different types and frequencies of signals are affected differently by modifying the effective antenna. For example, WiFi signal increases when gripping the phone.
 
People saying that apple should offer a free bumper are retarded. The bumper sucks! its a $2 item use an that they charge 30 for. It doesn't allow u to use any accessories that didn't come with the phone.

Give me a real fix!! And not some software update that makes me think its better
 
I'm an Apple product user since 1992, the day I retired from IBM I bought my first Mac, never had a better computing experience with anything else.

I love my iPhone 3GS, as does my wife. We're waiting for the WHITE iPhone4 to come out.

To me this signal issue is moot. I have learned from having my iPhone 3GS that I NEED a case. I'm an everyday guy and carry my phone in the pocket I keep my keys in. So in a year the back of the phone has gotten scratched up, INCLUDING the lens of the camera. I use screen protector film and my screen is immaculate. So for me getting a new iPhone 4 is doable because I PLAN ON BUYING A CASE. That case will cover the antenna (or I'm not buying it) and give better protection to the back (and camera/flash). Problem solved...

Lots of Apple Haters here - have your fun. Anyone seriously contemplating buying an iPhone 4, just get a case that covers the antenna...
Problem solved.


Why be part of the problem,
Be part of the SOLUTION.

So, I'm a little confused here ... so by going out and buying the new iPhone I'm solving the problem? The case to my knowledge does not fix the proximity issue that I also have experienced.

I just don't choose in this case to be an early adopter, as much as I really wanted to be.

-Ben
 
So, I'm a little confused here ... so by going out and buying the new iPhone I'm solving the problem? The case to my knowledge does not fix the proximity issue that I also have experienced.

I just don't choose in this case to be an early adopter, as much as I really wanted to be.

-Ben


return the phone.
 
There is an axiom in the PR world: You Can't Blame The User.

Seriously, you can't. Look at Toyota and Audi and what disasters they have had when they blamed a manufacturing problem on the user/consumer.

Suck it up, Apple. You are going to have to take your lumps...

Yes and in the case of Audi it was proven later that all the spontaneous acceleration problems were user related.

PR is perception and Apple has to deal with this before it turns into and Audi type situation.

The fact that I can use my phone just fine as a lefty and like it far more than my 3G is not relevant to the general perception.

I wonder just how widespread this perception is? I see allot of comments from people who are happy with the phone.

None the less some further response by Apple will be required to resolve this issue.
 
I can reproduce signal reduction on every since device I own when I touch the antenna.

So I don't see what the fuss is all about.

This is why Apple won't recall anything or admit to any of their mistakes ever.
Fanboys will ultimately ruin a good company that we all love.

Fact is, it is a big hardware problem, they need to recall the product, and while we are at it, we need to remind people that our beloved company is NOT perfect.
 
Mob mentality

The mob mentality is really incredible to observe.

For those who are complaining about Apple's "silence" on the issue, has it occurred to you that there are probably a bunch of super-stressed, highly motivated engineers in the labs 24x7 trying to come up with a fix right now? For the engineering team, this is a huge Apollo 13 moment where the engineers can come through and save the day. You have to let them come up with a solution and test it and see what the results are before predicting success or failure.

Putting pressure on Apple is great and all, but this thing where people turn on each other is a waste of time and not productive. Apple just did a recall on Time Capsules after observing their repair data (mine was repaired under the previous informal extended warranty), and they did it for bad iBook motherboards. This is much higher in profile, so there is no reason to think they will not develop a solution.

FWIW, my IP4's real world reception performance is slightly better than my 3GS was, even though I can reproduce the antenna problem.
 
Ok, Apple, time to be grown-up and fix all of this, there is no choice now!

1. Acknowledge the problem. Denying it is just weird at this point.

2. Provide a quality tape fix-it kit to Apple stores, fix while 'u wait. Tape wouldn't detract from the looks.

3. Gift certificates for the trouble.

4. Jobs is just too close to his baby to acknowledge any flaws. Apple needs to separate the production people from the customer relations side.

5. Make these products here. That would be the real killer app and would put the Apple back in everyone's eyes once again.

Great post and great idea! Start mass production of all Apple products in the US!
 
At home on my desk I have my iPhone 4 and my 3GS.

Both show 2-3 bars on O2.

I hold my 3GS and make a call - reception remains at 2-3 bars throughout the call.

I hold my 4 and make a call - after about 10 seconds I get disconnected and the display shows No Service.

I put my 4 back on my desk and after 10 seconds or so the 2-3 bars return.

For me, it really is that black and white. Other people's experience may be different and maybe not so clear-cut, but whether your iPhone 4 works or not does not change my own experience.
 
Apple gravitas gone...

There has always been a sort of glow around Apple products -- especially when first introduced. People hover around the devices and comment (mostly positive).

Imagine my shock when I took out my newly acquired iPhone4 to make a phone call during a sporting event and was surrounded by people who asked me if I felt like an idiot for buying a piece of junk. They could care less about the retina display, or FaceTime, or multitasking. They just wanted to know how many calls it dropped.

For the record, it did drop calls -- until I purchased a bumper case.

Sort of like Gus Grissom, Apple has "screwed the pooch" on this one.
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Fact is, it is a big hardware problem, they need to recall the product, and while we are at it, we need to remind people that our beloved company is NOT perfect.

Recalls are for things they can fix mechanically. They won't tear your iPHone 4 apart and fix anything.

They will provide $30 vouchers, can't wait.
 
Look at the image from Consumer Reports (reproduced at the top of the post). Of course the call failed. 1 (234) 5. I bet that's not even a real phone number.
 
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