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PR Experts Suggest iPhone 4 Recall 'Inevitable' as Antenna Issue Snowballs

aluren said:
There is no chance in hell Jobs is gonna come out and say "well, apparently this new iPhone 4 antenna system is not a breakthrough design afterall, ignore everything I said about it at WWDC."
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No, but he can't blame ATT either. I think he will blame the user, some people are just more electric than others. My guess is it comes down to your soul, if you don't have a soul then the phone works fine, if you do have a soul then you need a bumper.
 
dogie678 said:
..and Android trolls, i've got one message for you.

the iPhone 4 is STILL BETTER than your phone! :cool::cool::cool:
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Well iPhone 4 scored a 76 and the HTC Android scored a 74. I'd say the two phones are pretty on par with each other. SenseUI is also pretty damn awesome.
 
Darwing said:
prove it! show a video of u holding it in death grip indoors and outdoors without is losing signal...

for everyone of these people I will post a prove it response untill ONE person shows a valid video of it working
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Enough with the "prove it". Do you realize that if they have a strong enough signal, that despite death grip attenuation the bars will stay at 4 or 5 bars?!?

You are just as bad as the fanboys...
 
Jetson said:
"This is a non-issue. You're holding it wrong!" :D

I couldn't believe that even Steve Jobs could be so arrogant as to dismiss, out of hand as it were, the legitimate complaints about the iPhone signal attenuation problem.
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It's not new. This is how Apple handles, well, pretty much everything.

People: "The new Apple ___ is flawed because it doesn't include {Firewire/matte LCD/replaceable battery/Blu-Ray/USB ports/floppy drive/proper antenna}."

Apple: "Nobody uses that anymore. Our way is the future!"
 
Mattie Num Nums said:
Well iPhone 4 scored a 76 and the HTC Android scored a 74. I'd say the two phones are pretty on par with each other. SenseUI is also pretty damn awesome.
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Don't even go there, some Apple fanboys can't comprehend in their tiny brain there might be two equally really brilliant mobile OS's on the market.
 
joshh2o said:
Toyota-style disaster, yeah right. No one's lives are in danger, its just a reception issue, people go crazy when they find something wrong with Apple's products. It may be Apple's fault, but they are working on a fix, and I am sure that they will try to get it all worked out.
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After you see this^ you can probably go ahead and buy your jesusPhone.

I hope this all gets worked out soon.
 
I just had a strange picture go through my mind. I saw an Apple genius applying clear finger nail polish to people's iPhone 4's. And then blowing on them, and sanding lightly with a nail file and applying another coat. :eek:
 
I can say that my iPhone does lose reception if I place my finger on the lower left side. Most of the time I don't do that, but it does if I do.:mad:
 
dgalvan123 said:
Full scale recall? Yeah, right.

Consumer demand for this product is so high that it is STILL difficult to get your hands on one of these a full 3 weeks after the launch. People will keep buying these things. Just based on economics, Apple doesn't HAVE to do anything.

Toyota-style PR crisis? No. Toyota's problem was that its cars would sometimes overaccelerate and, um, KILL PEOPLE. Apple's problem is that, if you hold the phone in a very specific, intentional way, it might sometimes lose a little bit of signal reception and MAYBE (*gasp*) drop a cell phone call. "Devastating"? These PR experts are being a tad over-the-top.

Apple SHOULD respond with an acknowledgment of the antenna design flaw. But they do not need to do a full-scale recall. They should do something like the following: extend the period of time over which you can bring your phone back for a full refund from 30 days to 90 days, or something like that, AND give phone purchasers a $30 giftcard/partial refund that can be used to purchase a case.

As for myself: my wife has had the phone for 3 weeks. She used it for 2 weeks without any case, and we were not able to reproduce the signal drop problem (perhaps in too high a coverage area: Los Angeles). She did buy a Bumper to add a tiny bit of protective rubber in case she dropped it. (She has dropped it a couple times already from a couple feet onto our hardwood floor without a case. No damage.) In San Diego, we were able to reproduce the signal problem, but only when we held the naked phone extremely tightly: went from 5 bars to 3 bars after about 2 minutes. (Oh the humanity!) I just received my phone yesterday. First thing I did was put a Best Skins Ever skin on it ($5 to cover the sides, back and front), and then slap a cheap, clear hard plastic case on it, which protects the sides and back ($1 shipped, on ebay). This is the same thing I did with my iphone 3G. We had always planned to put cases on our phones, so this signal issue would not affect us even if it were significant in our region.
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Sadly most of people here didn't realize that. Also if you defend iPhone you're marked as a fanboy.
 
The drama! This spring and summer should be made into an opera. At this point, singers dressed as the various smartphones should be standing on stage singing something like the Grand Entrance from Aida whilst supernumeraries by the thousands mill around with pitchforks and torches punctuating the action by singing "antennae", "batteries", "bars", "unlimited data".

All are flawed, all are tragic.:D

P.S. And sheep! There should be sheep milling around baaaing as the supernumeraries work themselves up.
 
Maybe there is some latent hostility or disappointment from the fact that Apple only releases one phone a year--if this were HTC or Motorola, I think a lot of people would get over it because they know there are other options out there for a refund/exchange, etc. With Apple, something tells me no hardware 'fix' is really going to be addressed or released until around WWDC 2011.
 
What will the Apple apologist/fanboys/sheep say IF Apple does so a recall? I can already replicate this issue at my Apple Store with their iPhone 4s. I think they will just offer people with the issue a new replacement iPhone that works. No need to ask for every phone back. Just have the customers with issues come to Apple and get a new good iPhone 4. I have a hard time believing its a software issue when the phone drops a call when held. It looks like a hardware issue, but if Apple and their fanboys say its a software issue, time will tell. When the software update comes out, and the issue still exists, the sheep will make another excuse. Poor fanboys.:rolleyes: So many people call me an Apple Troll and hater, but I do find it pathetic that a simple issue like this would move past Qc during testing. I'm not an android fanboy either. i own an iPhone 3Gs too, and am getting a mac, so I'm just an Apple customer. Not an Apple fanboy/apologist/sheep.
 
No Problem, love my iPhone 4

I've never had the problem. My wife hasn't had it with hers, either.

Neither have my six co-workers who have the 4.

Neither have three friends who have it, too. None of these folks have "bumper" cases or other covers. They use it normally.

Honestly? I had reception problems with my Samsung phone I had with Verizon.

Prediction? Apple will sell millions more iPhone 4s, and the pundits can suck it, like they always do. Especially Gizmodo, who comes off these days sounding like a shrieking, spurned, unrequited Justin Beiber fan.
 
I had a really frustrating experience using my iphone 4 WITH a case last night. I was on the phone with another vexing company (Charter Cable) for 20 minutes regarding problems with my bill. Just as the CS was about to resolve my problem the call fails. This is in an area where my 3G had perfect coverage. I was holding it left handed. Very annoying.
 
It's not that big

In true Apple form, they will supply a coupon, partial refund or something in order to compensate people so they can buy a case for the device.
 
LagunaSol said:
Seriously though, why not just return the phone? Not a personal attack but a valid question (and it applies to everyone here). The only thing Apple owes any of us is a product that is worthy of the money we spend on it. If the product fails to live up to that standard, return it. You've put the problem back in their lap where it belongs.
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I stopped using my i4 (but kept it for development use). My 3gs works great. Trying to decide whether to return my wife's. I doubt Apple will refund our iMovie purchase....
 
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