Reminds me of one of the recent new Futurama episodes, where "Mom" plants a virus directly into the brains of everyone with an "EyePhone". The virus' sole purpose is to direct people to her stores, to purchase the "EyePhone 2.0".Tying into US Gov/Apple development of the iBrain implantable chip, you might not be that far off the mark.
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PR Experts Suggest iPhone 4 Recall 'Inevitable' as Antenna Issue Snowballs
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Those are also Apple support forums. Not exactly for community news discussions as we are doing here. Apple can delete what they want there. The only real complaint people should have is if Apple deletes a new post that's not a duplicate of an ongoing thread, just to cover up an issue.
Yes, that was my point. Apple is not censoring any and all discussion about the report. They are simply cleaning up superfluous threads because there are several existing and actives ones already.
Dishonest, not at all. CNN used "You're holding it wrong" to describe Apple's message.
The world has paraphrased Jobs' quote to the 'message' "You're holding it wrong". I added "1" to the 1.6 million pages already using "You're holding it wrong" .
Be sure to cast your vote in the Apple fanboy or an Apple h8tr? poll over in the Apple, Industry and Internet Discussion subforum!
Stagnation or not, Windows' marketshare across all platforms has been fairly consistent in the 91-92% range for the last several years. Given that it's not going down, I don't think Microsoft is really concerned.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8
Hey, when they get it right, they get it right and people will flock to it.
But funny-- when a new Apple product sells like hotcakes, like the iPad, you embrace the numbers, but an non-Apple product does the same, you dismiss it.
Still not getting why Mac's OS is still not even getting double digits penetration even after 26 years of its release. Might want to look into that in addition to the antenna issue. You'd think "good design, good execution = high demand"... yet, here we are (for the OS, not the iPhone, which was designed badly and executed just as badly).
I have had my iPhone 4 since launch day. Yes, if my firmly place my finger or palm across the black bar I get up to 3-4 bar drop, but never No Service, although likely that is due to being in stronger signal areas. I experimented with Speedtest.net and my data would also suffer if I held it in the ways that caused a loss.
Ok... now for the REST of the story. In 3 weeks of REAL use, 1 1/2 naked and 1 1/2 weeks with a bumper case I have never dropped ONE single call (as opposed to several a week with my 3G). Both naked and without when holding the phone in my left and right hands (but no longer trying to squeeze the device etc) I never saw noticeable data loss even if a bar or two dropped. There is no question the device was superior to my 3G in every way, faster download, upload, and better voice. I used the phone in these weeks ALL over the country as an airline pilot and the results are the same, the phone works.
Does the iPhone 4 suffer from signal interference when held with a firm grip on the left side? Yes. Can it cause a dropped call in bad signal areas? I haven't had it happen but I am sure, yes it can. But overall the phone itself is so much better in those weak areas that it would be likely you would have dropped several calls by that time in a 3GS or 3G.
I feel a bit for Apple because this is a no win situation. They MUST take action because the media storm, and CR article, is too much to ignore. But the real phone, in real life is actually better than the acclaimed 2G, 3G, and 3GS at everything, including call reception! So what to do short of making sure to redesign the antenna on the iPhone 5 (and believe me they will to shut everyone up.) A recall is too much money to do for a phone that actually works well. A free bumper is too much of a sign that says, "our phone is broken" to tolerate for the next year until the next phone. I suspect some uneasy medium will be the choice, a software patch to change the bars and some of the logic of call handling to enhance performance combined with an offer of some money to those unhappy with the phone performance to buy a case perhaps. What a deal, but Apple has a lot of smart folks so hopefully they will find a way to make the most people happy until a redesign in iPhone 5.
Ok... now for the REST of the story. In 3 weeks of REAL use, 1 1/2 naked and 1 1/2 weeks with a bumper case I have never dropped ONE single call (as opposed to several a week with my 3G). Both naked and without when holding the phone in my left and right hands (but no longer trying to squeeze the device etc) I never saw noticeable data loss even if a bar or two dropped. There is no question the device was superior to my 3G in every way, faster download, upload, and better voice. I used the phone in these weeks ALL over the country as an airline pilot and the results are the same, the phone works.
Does the iPhone 4 suffer from signal interference when held with a firm grip on the left side? Yes. Can it cause a dropped call in bad signal areas? I haven't had it happen but I am sure, yes it can. But overall the phone itself is so much better in those weak areas that it would be likely you would have dropped several calls by that time in a 3GS or 3G.
I feel a bit for Apple because this is a no win situation. They MUST take action because the media storm, and CR article, is too much to ignore. But the real phone, in real life is actually better than the acclaimed 2G, 3G, and 3GS at everything, including call reception! So what to do short of making sure to redesign the antenna on the iPhone 5 (and believe me they will to shut everyone up.) A recall is too much money to do for a phone that actually works well. A free bumper is too much of a sign that says, "our phone is broken" to tolerate for the next year until the next phone. I suspect some uneasy medium will be the choice, a software patch to change the bars and some of the logic of call handling to enhance performance combined with an offer of some money to those unhappy with the phone performance to buy a case perhaps. What a deal, but Apple has a lot of smart folks so hopefully they will find a way to make the most people happy until a redesign in iPhone 5.
Even with as many systems as Apple has been selling, the volume of PCs sold has generally been increasing as well, especially in new markets.
Plus, a lot of Mac owners end up buying Windows and running it (albeit usually not that often) via virtualization or Boot Camp. Thus, it ends up often off-setting the purchase of a Mac.
Ultimately, Microsoft doesn't care who uses/buys Windows, as long as they do.
It's a phone people, come on. If you like the phone, keep it and either hold it differently or buy a case. Habbits are not hard to change. If you don't like it, then return it and get a different phone. Or get a cheap flip phone and buy and iPad. It just is not that big of a deal.
You are crazy if you think Apple is going to throw away hundreds of millions of dollars... just crazy.
You are crazy if you think Apple is going to throw away hundreds of millions of dollars... just crazy.
Yet I know people who do not hold it "that" way. This isn't about "normal" it about the way "I like." When you say normal though it makes it sound like the phone is unusable. It's not. It works better than my 3G, I just had to change my grip.
The question of Normal, falls back to whether this is a design decision, or a design flaw. It could be either because the reception is both better and worse depending on the conditions. The question is did they test an internal antenna? Did they test various coatings? Was the result of those tests that naked external was the best overall? If so design decision, otherwise design flaw.
It's not a strawman. By entitled I did not mean free. Yes you bought an iPhone. You don't like the way it operates. You can't demand Apple to make it work the way you want or else. If they don't appease you, your recourse is to return the product. You say you don't want to, because you feel entitled.
If the product doesn't work, for you, then that is your recourse. Welcome to the world, I agree it is not ideal, but it is what I would do if the phone did not meet my expectations.
Honestly, we don't know. Do you think Apple is doing nothing right now? Do you expect them to give daily status updates spilling all of their test results so their competitors benefit from all their research? I don't. As a Company there is little they can do right now except find out the exact problem and a solution.
Apple recently replaces the nVidia card in my 2.5 year old MacBook Pro free of cost due to a known defect. Prior to a solution, the problem was denied, why? LIABILITY! Apple will do the "right" thing when they know what the right thing is. Yes, the "right" thing might be nothing. It might be a free case, it might be a recall, or maybe a credit.
Oh, and "WinTel"? Really? I thought
"Wintel" can also be an convenient abbreviation for an Intel-CPU-equipped computer running Windows -- as distinguished from, say, an Intel-CPU-equipped computer running either Linux or OS X. One needn't be a "fanatic" of any kind to use that term. Just sayin'.
I'm in the UK and on the O2 network. I have managed to recreate the drop in signal strength (by 2 to 3 bars quite a number a times) when holding the phone/bridging the connection in the bottom left hand corner. luckily I live in an area with good reception so haven't suffered any dropped calls as a result. Though I can see how this might be frustrating to those in low signal spots.
Uh, no, these aren't non-issues. Maybe to you, since you're a huge
Apple has never advocated the use of cases. Now all of a sudden they are? Yeah... that alone should tell you something.
They are non-issues because the product still always works as intended for the vast majority. The people that complain about them are in the vast minority. Ultimately we are talking about what amounts to minor defects in what are ultimately disposable consumable items.
Am I a fan, eh, maybe, but i can bash Apple as well as praise. I just have decided I have had enough of piling on. This problem has gone beyond common sense. I fixed this issue in ten minutes. EVERYONE can fix it in ten minutes.
Yes, you have to buy a case to use the snazzy new iPhone 4, and yes that might just be the long-term solution for this design. Is this ultimately a non-issue for most every normal iPHone buyer on the planet??
Yes, it is a non-issue, unless you are a hater.
I didn't even read your post.
RETURN THE iPHONE. BUY AN ANDROID PHONE. be happy.
Problem solved.
RETURN THE iPHONE. BUY AN ANDROID PHONE. be happy.
Problem solved.
As has probably been pointed out,'the reference to Toyota is n relation to impact on sales not on the commensurabilty of the issue itself
Perhaps not, but the term is kind of useless and confusing now that we have Intel Macs running Windows in BootCamp. Is my MBP a Mactel when I'm running OS X and a Wintel when I switch to Win7, or is it perhaps a Wactel running Mindows?
Who cares?
Or both.
What planet are you from? I absolutely can even in the US and even more so if I were from just about any other country.
No that is one recourse, the other is to insist that Apple make their product work properly.
And as Ms. Manners would have me say 'How very nice for you' but remind you that has nothing to do with me - you don't decide how I handle problems and from your responses I don't think we handle them in the same way.
Feel free to handle your problems the way you want, allow me to do the same.
Err...
1) I can't return something that won't be out for another two weeks in my country.
2) I don't want an "Android", I want to retire my old iPhone 3G and get a new iPhone. My plan was to skip the 3GS and wait for whatever came next. The fact that what came next turned out to be a glass sandwich with no signal wasn't part of the plan.
3) Why respond to, let alone quote in its entirety, a post you didn't read?
If you try to make a 911 call in an emergency and keep getting disconnected, yes, it could happen.
A flaw is a flaw. Fix it, let people exchange for a new "fixed" phone and be done with it.
The ball was dropped, it hath rolled away, and is on the edge of a bottomless cliff.
Disclaimer: The antenna issue does not affect my daily use of the phone because of the way I naturally hold the phone, and have held ALL of my previous iPhones.
But damn. First this was all isolated to the tech blogs with nerds like us and that was bad. Now that it's out to the mass media, Apple needs to do/say something quick or this could be really bad. In my mind a total recall would be the right thing to do, but that's a whole lot of phones.
And even if there was a recall, what would happen after that? Has Apple even come up with a design that fixes the hardware issue? I mean it would have to be pretty drastic, they can't get away with just putting some kind of non-conductive coating on the death corner. But how could Apple NOT have known about this issue through the months and years of developing this phone. I think it's safe to say that nobody believes the ************ that they were surprised and shocked at the issue.
A little part of my faith in the goodwill has died. In other news, I still love my iPhone 4. Even if there isn't a recall I am going to keep mine!
Disclaimer: The antenna issue does not affect my daily use of the phone because of the way I naturally hold the phone, and have held ALL of my previous iPhones.
But damn. First this was all isolated to the tech blogs with nerds like us and that was bad. Now that it's out to the mass media, Apple needs to do/say something quick or this could be really bad. In my mind a total recall would be the right thing to do, but that's a whole lot of phones.
And even if there was a recall, what would happen after that? Has Apple even come up with a design that fixes the hardware issue? I mean it would have to be pretty drastic, they can't get away with just putting some kind of non-conductive coating on the death corner. But how could Apple NOT have known about this issue through the months and years of developing this phone. I think it's safe to say that nobody believes the ************ that they were surprised and shocked at the issue.
A little part of my faith in the goodwill has died. In other news, I still love my iPhone 4. Even if there isn't a recall I am going to keep mine!