A bumper is NOT the solution. People bought the "magical, wonderful, beautiful" iPhone for what it is. The bumper completely changes that.
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PR Experts Suggest iPhone 4 Recall 'Inevitable' as Antenna Issue Snowballs
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A bumper is NOT the solution. People bought the "magical, wonderful, beautiful" iPhone for what it is. The bumper completely changes that.
Please provide some factual information if you are going to claim that Verizon bribed Consumer Reports to non-recommend the iPhone. That is a pretty bold statement.
Just imagine what people would say around here if Motorola or HTC did that?
Why Not? So if you got your new macbook pro home and when you used the mouse pad your wireless stopped working you wouldn't want a recall? oh, and all 2 million devices sold were affected. Would you accept apple saying, go out and buy our $60 magic mouse.
There will be a recall, since this design flaw is so wide spread!
I will keep mine until a recall is issued, or I will use my applecare policy to get a new device....soon (not worried about the 30day return policy).
This is by far the best phone out there!
a few of my friends have the iphone 4 and they don't have any issues with it (even when intentionally holding the left side). could be subtle manufacturing differences that's causing the problem to be more prevalent on some phones than others.
You fanboys are hilarious!
That's right, put a CASE around yoru phone to make sure it works...OK.
LOL
So... why not roll back to version 3? Its not that hard, you know.
I'm another person with an iPhone 4 and no issues, btw. Yes, there's more noticeable attenuation than there was with my 3G... but overall reception, even with the attenuation, is far superior to my 3G. Reception when not attenuated is even better.
Which does give some additional weight to the fact that this is far more of a perception issue than a technical one.
This has nothing to do with AT&T you dumb ass.
Oh wait, I'm sorry I forgot. The Verizon network doesn't use frequencies; it uses magic.
Well regardless of the network carrier, there are areas of weak coverage. All of us use our phones in different areas. At home, no issue but I do travel and have experienced dropped calls and lost data connectivity on the IP4. So I do believe its a major problem that every IP4 owner will experience over its lifetime. And when you travel to those weaker areas, the IP4's connectivity is the worst of any device I have ever used.
This is most likely the problem with the software representation of bars vs. actual signal -- they're not linear, and the 'five bars' level actually represents almost 50% of the usable signal range. The drops in signal are up to about half of that range. In actual numbers, the 'usable' signal range is about 100 dBm, five bars is a range of about 50 dBm, with the maximum signal drop observed is around 25 dBm. So if you have a really good signal, you won't notice a bar drop -- but if you have an edgy signal (near the lower end of five bars, or less) you can see it drop by several bars. At around 3-ish bars, you can probably drop to no signal.
I'm curious to see what's the minimum you need to 'fix' this problem -- would a coat of some sort of paint be enough? Something like a clear lacquer? I can't imagine that being too hard to even just do on current phones -- you'd just need to replace the antennas with coated ones, if that's the case. I imagine the 'used' antennas could even be checked, coated, and re-used for other phones fairly easily.
What if you're calling 911, a call drop could cause a delay in emergency services.. especially if you are on hold in a cue like you always are in Los Angeles
Apple won't recall millions of iPhone 4s, they will let you return it forever or give you a bumper. In the end the return stats will speak for themselves. My guess is 5% return because of antenna issue, the other 95%, happy as a lark.
For people like you that refuse to put a bumper on your phone to solve the problem, good riddance. Go buy your EVO-- btw, i already tried that one, it blows A**, returned it to Sprint and am back to the best phone ever made.
A bumper on your phone is a small price to pay for superior everything else.
I have to agree with several other posts on here. I really like my iPhone 4 and have no intentions of sending it back even though I do notice the signal strength indicator does seem to vary much more than my previous 3GS, this has not caused me any problems as of yet though.
The much bigger problem is that everytime someone spots I have the iPhone 4 they start saying "Oh I hear you can't make calls on them properly" or "apparently they're really good unless you want to make a phone call", etc., etc., and I'm not joking when I say this happens nearly everytime one of my friends or colleagues spots me with the phone...there are a lot of people who for one reason or another can't wait to start slagging off Apple or even better slagging off Apple users, who are often perceived (wrongly) to be a bit arrogant and patronising to non Apple users.
I don't think a recall is necessary but some seriously good PR needs to swing into place over this...
The much bigger problem is that everytime someone spots I have the iPhone 4 they start saying "Oh I hear you can't make calls on them properly" or "apparently they're really good unless you want to make a phone call", etc., etc., and I'm not joking when I say this happens nearly everytime one of my friends or colleagues spots me with the phone...there are a lot of people who for one reason or another can't wait to start slagging off Apple or even better slagging off Apple users, who are often perceived (wrongly) to be a bit arrogant and patronising to non Apple users.
I don't think a recall is necessary but some seriously good PR needs to swing into place over this...
Hell freezes over
You wont see a recall until hell freezes over. A recall would mean that Jobs' magically wonderific iphone4 would be flawed. He'll never admit that. No reason to admit it, the iSheep are still lining up to buy the defective things. Imagine that... people lining up to spend hundreds of dollars on an iphone that doesnt work...AS A PHONE!!
You wont see a recall until hell freezes over. A recall would mean that Jobs' magically wonderific iphone4 would be flawed. He'll never admit that. No reason to admit it, the iSheep are still lining up to buy the defective things. Imagine that... people lining up to spend hundreds of dollars on an iphone that doesnt work...AS A PHONE!!
The problem isn't obvious, they have the best performance of any cell phone.
The external antenna gives them the best RF performance of any iPhone yet produced. One just needs to not short out the antenna.
As for being ugly that is a matter of opinion. Many of us are more concerned about iPhones performance, especially in remote areas. Every indication is that iPhone 4 does indeed perform well in weak signal areas.
There is nothing wrong with iPhone 4 that an intelligent person can't deal with.
Dave
The external antenna gives them the best RF performance of any iPhone yet produced. One just needs to not short out the antenna.
As for being ugly that is a matter of opinion. Many of us are more concerned about iPhones performance, especially in remote areas. Every indication is that iPhone 4 does indeed perform well in weak signal areas.
There is nothing wrong with iPhone 4 that an intelligent person can't deal with.
Dave
Wow. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. These idiots need to think as if they were in Apple's position if they're going to make an assumption like that. Recall a device that's sold millions and millions of devices within half a month? I don't think so. These losers are saying this just to freaking raise a hype. I'm sure they're making money for it too.
Just put a case around it, then it will work, silly boy!
Now go back and bea good Apple Lemming Fanboy LOL
Am I the only one who gets less dropped calls with my iPhone 4 than my 3GS? I have a case on it though so maybe that's why.
Take it for what it's worth because it does come from Fox News...
Apple censoring discussions of the iPhone CR review?
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/13/apple-censoring-discussion-consumer-reports-iphone-review/
Apple censoring discussions of the iPhone CR review?
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/13/apple-censoring-discussion-consumer-reports-iphone-review/
I agree, people search and look for issues to report on when it comes to apple products, please are just used to and accept all the issues of other products.
I have an iPhone 4 and love this phone. It is faster and better than any of the previous phones. Its funny how everyone I have talked to that complains about this either doesnt have an iPhone or if they do have the iphone and it is an iphone 4 they can not reproduce the problem... lol
Get over it people, the iPhone is the best phone out there so stop crying and get one if you dont already have one cause you know you are just jealous.
