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Just one question...is Apple completely against using a release for two years instead of one. Then there's plenty of time to fix bugs instead of rushing to get iOS 14 out by next September...
 
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It doesn’t look like Apple fixed this issue for me. Ugh. Safari just reloaded after trying to open an app on the home screen to have it appear in the recents dock so I can drag it up to multitask with Safari.

disappointed. I’m seriously considering switching now
Goodbye and good luck with your next platform ...
 
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No you don’t, emoboy.

25 apps that are all “mission critical” to your existence? Lol. You named like 8 apps & 3 of them are just for funsies.
I’ve worked in the tech industry for over 2 decades... I’ve literally met ZERO people that have a workflow that includes using 25 apps simultaneously. I believe that is beyond human capabilities. It is a preposterous notion & a silly thing to say.
You absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt, do NOT have 25 apps that all need to be held in RAM at the same time... to avoid hindering your work.
I’m directly calling you out. That is a bald faced lie.

sorry, not sorry

And yet, in this very article there is a quote from someone opening 32 apps at once. He clearly ‘needed’ to do that in order to test the bug properly.

Perhaps this is your first experience in 2 decades of someone needing to hold X amount of apps in memory at the same time, but this proves that you certainly do not know anyone else’s workflow and have no right to suggest someone is lying about it.

You have gone on for so long about this, I thought it relavent to mention the glaring fact that you’re speaking nonsense.
 
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The only issue and I mean only issue I had was ram management. How people are having so many “bugs” is beyond me.
 
Just one question...is Apple completely against using a release for two years instead of one. Then there's plenty of time to fix bugs instead of rushing to get iOS 14 out by next September...
Apple might not be, but typical consumers essentially are (even if indirectly).
 
So we need to skip 13.2? Luckily I haven't got any pushed OTAs yet on my 13.1.3 devices.

I'm guessing 13 is just bad luck for Apple then. :D Or are we on the trend of odd numbered iOS being bad and even numbered iOS being great?
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I need at least 25 apps running in the same time.
Actually you don't. Why? Because your screen is not even capable of displaying all 25 apps at the same time.

But what you do need is for the OS to be smart enough to juggle multiple apps and freeze the app properly if needed so it will be in its previous state when you come back to it.

I'm guessing this is part of the issue and Apple is fixing it.
 
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So far the memory management issue is fixed on my iPad with this release along with other bugs we had reported. Looking good
 
I really like the idea of the Timer !

Wish they had implemented that when they first introduced the iPhone X !

That would have made a HUGE impact on High Perf apps running effectively on the X, & subsequently ALSO the XR !

When you've ONLY got ~2.8 GB of DRAM to work with, & with much of it consumed by the OS, RAM Mgmt is critically important !
 
And yet, in this very article there is a quote from someone opening 32 apps at once. He clearly ‘needed’ to do that in order to test the bug properly.

Perhaps this is your first experience in 2 decades of someone needing to hold X amount of apps in memory at the same time, but this proves that you certainly do not know anyone else’s workflow and have no right to suggest someone is lying about it.

You have gone on for so long about this, I thought it relavent to mention the glaring fact that you’re speaking nonsense.
Ahhhhh.... someone “needed” to open that many apps for work, because their job is to test how many apps can possibly be opened at once!
Touché.
Indeed you have me there. Apparently there is ONE job in the world that actually does require opening 25+ apps simultaneously!
I stand (very mildly) corrected.

As an aside- I can assure you with some degree of confidence, that most in the tech industry, while grateful for smartphones, are NOT doing 100% of their work on their phone... 25+ apps at a time.

Anybody claiming that is how work is getting done in the world today is absolutely spouting nonsense! =)
 
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Ok, I’ll be wary.... thanks.

Although- I do think it bears mentioning that wants and needs are two separate things. One is opinion based, the other fact based.
For example if I told you “I need to eat to survive”, that is true. However, if I told you “I need to own exactly 17 blue t-shirts” you could correctly say “No, you WANT to own 17 blue t-shirts... that is not a need”.
Similarly, if someone says “I like to open all 42 apps on my phone & NEVER close them” I couldn’t argue. But if they said “I need all 42 apps on my phone opened simultaneously”, it’s completely accurate and fair to say “No, you WANT to open all 42 apps simultaneously- that is not a need”.

Again, you don't knowwhat is or isn't needed for some people.

But you are missing the point - even 3 or 4 apps open don't hold in memory, it is clearly a giant bug.
 
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I have not much on line about how IOS 13 broke CarPlay, I thought it was something I did when my 2018 Nissan that worked just fine with my iPhone 8 and IOS 12 totally went off line once I upgraded to an iPhone 11 and IOS 13. Lots of apparently similar complaints. I hope this new beta fixes that, I miss CarPlay....

I used CarPlay all day Thursday and Saturday on an 11 pro max running 13.2.

What is going on with your CarPlay?
 
<snip> even 3 or 4 apps open don't hold in memory, it is clearly a giant bug.
On this we can COMPLETELY agree.
I actually jinxed myself by mentioning in one of these threads that I wasn’t experiencing the issue on my iPhone 11 or iPad Pro... almost immediately after, the bug did present itself, lol.
I think RAM management is one of the more important pieces of the OS.
I’m certainly grateful this fix is incoming!
 
Weird. I have an iPhone 11 Pro and haven’t noticed this at all. I went back through my multitasking list through six apps before I got to YouTube, and the video I was watching 6 hours ago was still there and continued playing without a hitch.

On a related note, iOS 13.2 has been great for me when it comes to battery life. The battery on my 11 Pro was actually worse than my XS even though I wasn’t using it that much more since they’re mostly the same and I’ve had it for a while now. Then I upgraded and was traveling late last week and forgot to bring my chargers and had to borrow a cable and apparently it didn’t charge my phone overnight. However I was able to get through the next day, even doing some hotspot for my iPad Pro and GPS navigation before putting it on the charger in the early evening. I had been taking a lot of photos and videos too the day before. It’s pretty incredible. Right now it’s 8pm with no travel, normal use and my battery is at 75%.
 
Weird. I have an iPhone 11 Pro and haven’t noticed this at all. I went back through my multitasking list through six apps before I got to YouTube, and the video I was watching 6 hours ago was still there and continued playing without a hitch.

On a related note, iOS 13.2 has been great for me when it comes to battery life. The battery on my 11 Pro was actually worse than my XS even though I wasn’t using it that much more since they’re mostly the same and I’ve had it for a while now. Then I upgraded and was traveling late last week and forgot to bring my chargers and had to borrow a cable and apparently it didn’t charge my phone overnight. However I was able to get through the next day, even doing some hotspot for my iPad Pro and GPS navigation before putting it on the charger in the early evening. I had been taking a lot of photos and videos too the day before. It’s pretty incredible. Right now it’s 8pm with no travel, normal use and my battery is at 75%.

The trade off wasn’t worth it for me but I have to say I did notice the same thing. I could sit on my phone for 4 hours browsing the internet and I’d be at 95% battery left. Upgraded to 13.3 and did the same thing and I was at 84%. It would be nice is they rolled that aggressive memory management into low power mode so it was there if you wanted it.
 
The trade off wasn’t worth it for me but I have to say I did notice the same thing. I could sit on my phone for 4 hours browsing the internet and I’d be at 95% battery left. Upgraded to 13.3 and did the same thing and I was at 84%. It would be nice is they rolled that aggressive memory management into low power mode so it was there if you wanted it.
It's possible there's all that to it. However, the first few days, and in particular the first hours, after an update aren't necessarily good indicators of battery usage overall.
 
Anyone else have issues with FaceTime? When I FaceTime using my updated original iPad Pro my girlfriend on her iphone 11 Pro, every time I double tap home or swipe up for the recent apps, i freeze on her screen and then it goes poor connection for her and I have to call back. Not a wifi issue.
 
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