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Conceptually I agree with her. Practically I disagree with her.
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Do you think some of goals, like shifting to 100% renewable energy or completely moving away from I.C.E. cars are actually plausible? It's not a question if it's good -- as a Republican that loves this beautiful earth, I totally wish that we could move to 100% natural energy -- it's a question of "How?" In a ten year time frame? Who? Where's the money going to come from?
I don't believe it's possible at this time nor do I think it will be there within the next 10 years. My issue with "greenies" is their belief that people don't want to be green. I disagree with that. People don't want to be green if they're going to have to make drastic changes to their lives.
 
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The two party system in the US is just so stupid to me.

It makes it way too easy to be fighting over who is more stupid

U R STUPID

NO U R STUPID

Tell me why I am stupid?

CUZ CUZ ... EH I DONT KNOW BUT U ARE!!!

with more players in the game, you got more fingers to point against the same „bad guys“

American politics always reminds me of fanboy fighting between Apple VS Samsung or Star Wars VS Star Trek
 
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And, just like that, Warren's campaign is over.
Corporations have too much influence on elections in US, they will make sure that she won't make it.
I do agree that all corporations have lobbied hard to make rules in such a way that corporations don't have much competition, which is not good for economy and innovation.
 
The two party system in the US is just so stupid to me.

It makes it way too easy to be fighting over who is more stupid

U R STUPID

NO U R STUPID

Tell me why I am stupid?

CUZ CUZ ... EH I DONT KNOW BUT U ARE!!!

with more players in the game, you got more fingers to point against the same „bad guys“

American politics always reminds me of fanboy fighting between Apple VS Samsung or Star Wars VS Star Trek
How would you recommend changing it?
 
I gotcha. I'll admit that I haven't combed through it myself and actually dug very deep into it. Mostly just the cow fart headlines, as well as a little research here are there. Ha. :D

Do you think some of goals, like shifting to 100% renewable energy or completely moving away from I.C.E. cars are actually plausible? It's not a question if it's good -- as a Republican that loves this beautiful earth, I totally wish that we could move to 100% natural energy -- it's a question of "How?" In a ten year time frame? Who? Where's the money going to come from?

And, again just a curious question, what are your views on the hypothetical 70% tax on the ultra-wealthy? You aren't concerned that those folks will simply take their money and leave? Who would want their money taken from them? I wouldn't!
The goal of doing it is absolutely plausible and should absolutely happen. It's just a question of the time frame. 10 years? for 100%? No. But it doesn't mean we can't start. Money can come from taxes/tax breaks, pulling from other programs. We spend a lot of money on nonsense. If you mandate solar for all new construction it would come from the sale of the building.
Even without pushing solar that hard the industry already creates more jobs than oil/coal/gas combined! Imagine if we pushed it really hard? It would create millions of new jobs. Good for the earth, good for jobs, good for the air and water. Energy independence! It's a no brainer.
Our power grid needs to be replaced, it's aging. A smart power grid can move power from areas with an abundance of sun and wind to areas current experiencing a lesser amount. Such a large scale infrastructure project would create an enormous amount of jobs.

In the 3 decades following world war II we built the largest middle class the world has ever seen. And the average tax rate on the wealthy was 70%. It worked. You live here, you pay your fair share. That's the way it goes.
You leave and want to do business here, you're going to pay.
There's a great graph on the subject, I wish I could find it, but for those decades leading up to the 80's the level of production was closely matched by the earnings of the workers(adjusted for inflation) and the earnings of the wealthy. A nice balanced trend. Then we started giving massive tax breaks to the wealthy, we got trickle down economics, the graph changed. Production continued to rise but workers earnings no longer rose with it, they've stagnated every since(adjusted for inflation) but the wealthy's earnings have sky rocketed. It was a massive redistribution of wealth to the top end. Keep in mind 77% of the economy is driven by middle class consumer spending so it makes more sense to target your tax cuts to the group who actually drives the economy.
So reinstated the taxes on the wealthy of those decades puts the earnings back in to balance and back in the hands of those who have the greatest effect on the economy.

Though personally I would scrap the entire tax code and start over from scratch.
 
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In the 3 decades following world war II we built the largest middle class the world has ever seen. And the average tax rate on the wealthy was 70%. It worked. You live here, you pay your fair share. That's the way it goes.
Agreed! We need to start having the roughly 44% who pay nothing (or worse, receive money back) in FIT start to pay their fair share.
 
Agreed! We need to start having the roughly 44% who pay nothing (or worse, receive money back) in FIT start to pay their fair share.
Corporate welfare is by FAR the biggest issue. The top corporations not only don't pay taxes but get money back! Billions in profit and don't pay taxes?! And the amount they get back is in direct proportion to how much they spend lobbying.
 
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This is EXACTLY what Warren needs to be saying. Right now, she's still Johnny-come-lately to the leftward tilt in the Democratic race. Personally, I don't think these ideas are ambitious enough. But I recognize that these things happen in baby steps. Warren will not be as persuasive as Bernie Sanders (who I'm voting for) unless she can differentiate herself as willing to stand up to our corporate overlords. I love Apple stuff, but I'd nationalize them tomorrow if I could. The tech sector rips off all its innovation from public sector research anyway. Why should they be sitting on such large piles of cash? This kind of stockpiled cash was the cause of the Great Depression. That moment should be taxed and ploughed into the Green New Deal.

If Warren can keep this up, but get more aggressive, she has a chance at the nomination.
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The next 12 months for the Democratic candidates will be all about who can appear the most radical. Then, after they've all bloodied each other, Biden is going to waltz in for the nomination.
Biden is already out. He has said too many racist and sexist things in his career. He won't run.
 
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Corporate welfare is by far the biggest issue. The top corporations not only don't pay taxes but get money back! Billions in profit and don't pay taxes?! And the amount they get back is in direct proportion to how much they spend lobbying.
I think we can do that too. I do have an issue with your statement "Billions in profit and don't pay taxes?". Typically a company that makes billions of dollars in profit and doesn't pay any taxes is using prior year losses to lower their current year taxes.
 
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It is radical to destroy the planet. I support the Green New Deal.
I think it's awful arrogant to think we, as a species, can significantly alter what happens to the planet. I am reminded of a line in Star Trek IV where Spock says something to the effect:

"Only the arrogance of man would assume the message is intended for him"​

While I support the idea of trying to be green I think it needs to be done as technology permits.
 
It is radical to destroy the planet. I support the Green New Deal.
I support the idea of the Green New Deal. But I can recognize that it is impossible. Unfortunate truth.

Besides, trusting a bunch of elected officials hundreds of miles away that promise to have my/the planet's best interests in mind? Guaranteeing that all of these new-found powers given to the government by way of the GNB will never, ever be used for nefarious purposes?

Fat chance. Unfortunately, for the both of us.
 
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So, net neutrality but for the platforms rather than just the providers?

The Internet seemed to love the idea of net neutrality. I wonder if the tech companies would promote this with the same enthusiasm?
 
I support the idea of the Green New Deal. But I can recognize that it is impossible. Unfortunate truth.

Besides, trusting a bunch of elected officials hundreds of miles away that promise to have my/the planet's best interests in mind? Guaranteeing that all of these new-found powers given to the government by way of the GNB will never, ever be used for nefarious purposes?

Fat chance. Unfortunately, for the both of us.
While they ironically contribute more than the average person to it. AOC is just the latest example of their hypocrisy. The largest being Al Gore.
 
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As much as I dislike the usual BS that comes from Phocahontas [sic], she's not wrong about this. However, I'm not sure her breakup approach is the right answer. Under her proposal, she'd just be expanding government again, creating a new regulatory board, among other problems. No thanks.
 
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As a person who will be sworn in as a US Citizen next week and get to vote in 2020, I guarantee that I will vote for a Democrat, but it surely will not be for Warren.
 
As a person who will be sworn in as a US Citizen next week and get to vote in 2020, I guarantee that I will vote for a Democrat, but it surely will not be for Warren.
Just weigh your options and make the best choice for the economy, be it Trump or someone else. :) Just don't every make the mistake of jumping on a hate wagon. Critical thinking is a dying trait, my friend!
 
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As a person who will be sworn in as a US Citizen next week and get to vote in 2020, I guarantee that I will vote for a Democrat, but it surely will not be for Warren.

So you have no clue about American politics is what you’re saying.

Mind sharing what liberal crap country you’re leaving and why you’d want to bring their failed political ideas with you?
 
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