I'm moreless known at Mac pro sub forum, I don't try to harass you (FYI the Amiga was the first computer I was really engaged too), it's just I don't share your bias, I'm not 100% pro AMD I used to be Intel fan (and still believe they can recover and rebuild the PC industry, Intel is victim of it's own hyper-succes), I'd be a Mac pro day 1 adopter but it doesn't fit well my workflow (finite element analytics, and now dl/ml, crypto coins, I do sometimes hw design and prototyping) so I really need a powerful workstation, but most framework in my workflow simple can't run on macOS anymore (since Catalina or not beyond Catalina) I need CUDA or SyCL and accelerated fp64 gpgpu computation, no hope on CUDA but I believe later ASAP Metal should enable fp64 and hopefully bfoat16 and someone port sycl then maybe I could work again natively from macOS.I'm getting definite Amiga vs Atari ST holy war vibes from this (look that up kids!). For the record I was definitely on the Amiga side of things back in the day so I recognise patterns here and it's not a particularly edifying situation I'm interested to get involved in - I'm with Matthew Broderick on that.
As I'll clarify again, I'll be happy to build an AMD PC this year if I needed to build one, I may even stick with an AMD GPU as well because it might be useful for an eGPU on one of my Macs in due course.
The only thing I can really try and conclude this with is: Do you really think Intel are going to let Apple go direct to AMD without putting their best deal on the table? And do you think the average consumer is going to care overly about a bunch of benchmarks?
Meanwhile I code from an iMac or MBP or tcMP and run/debug at a remote (under my desk) GPU Server, diy built on an mitx Server motherboard with an embedded epyc 8c CPU and two rtx Titan on an pcie bifurcation/splitter, and I'm doing that very good, all the nVidia stuff run natively at the Server, and my Mac is more like a big luxury display, also I do extensive use of nomachine remote desktop so I can run apps with its GUI proyected at my station and almost feels native as I often use a dedicated 10g connection (really overkill but sometimes I need to move multiple TB of Data).
So I really enjoy AMD Zen, it's powerful, economical (not cheap), I'm aware how good AMD played it's cards against Intel, but AMD still far behind nVidia about GPU s, but nVidia GPU kingdom has its days numbered due specialized computational accelerators like TPU NPU and fpga along hyper core count accelerators based on risc v sooner or later will dethroned nVidia, but at least by the next 3 yr nVidia it's safe, can't say the same about Intel, too many errors an slow reaction, thanks God they just hired the Best asic engineer today, Jim Keller, I have big hopes on him, also Intel has some interesting concepts as architecture successor for von neuman .
I need to say you I'm sorry if you felt harrased, not my intention just to support my POV.
As yet I'm convinced last Mac to debut a new Intel CPU will be the upcoming MBP14 and MBP16, Apple moving then everything to Ryzen Threadripper starting with iMac and Mac mini, followed later by the iMac Pro, and next year all AMD MBP, there's a chance for an ARM based alt-macbook RT-like but isn't as clear to me, similar is a gaming desktop mac Rumored for WWDC, I believe it bill be just an beefier iMac, people dream with an not so pro Mac pro starting at 2000$ and capable to host a mpx GPU and at least another pcie peripheral upto 4 pcie slots, but I don't know if this will arrive neither powered by Ryzen 3950x and AMD RX5900 GPU with 32gb hbm2e RAM, neither if this will look like a small cube.
Maybe this month we have more cues, Apple had triple down about product leaks.
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