Previously Reliable Leaker CoinX Suggests New iMac and Mac Mini Models Are Coming Soon

[FixAppleMail]

Your being utterly ridiculous. Do you understand what makes Tim Cook the most successful CEO in history? One trillion dollars.

Tim Cook Has Increased Apple’s Value by More Than $1 Trillion Since Replacing Steve Jobs. No Other CEO Can Say That.

A substantial portion of Apple’s $1 trillion run has unfolded over the past 12 months. Apple shares sport a year-to-date gain of 85%, increasing the company’s market cap by close to $600 billion.

www.barrons.com

The fact that Cook’s Apple has given customers so many great products has propelled Apple to its current success.

Apple’s board of directors is quite aware of exactly how loyal and satisfied Apple’s customers are. And Apple has benefited in the form of record revenues, profits and investor confidence.

The board is absolutely thrilled with Tim Cook’s performance. If you think they’re going to fire him because the iMac’s design—truly timeless, and one of Ive’s hallmark achievements—hasn’t been refreshed in 7 years, you couldn’t possibly be more wrong.

Whether you, other forum posters or some techTubers think you need thinner bezels is completely irrelevant to Apple or Tim Cook. They could not possibly care less. Complain away 🤷‍♂️

The bezels on the iMac are the thickest ones out there in comparison to any all-in-one out there. Having a trillion or a million or a bankrupt company doesn't make any relations to that. In fact that just shows how greedy Tim is since no other all-in-one uses 10 years of same old design with these thick bezels.

 

[zhenya]

The bezels on the iMac are the thickest ones out there in comparison to any all-in-one out there. Having a trillion or a million or a bankrupt company doesn't make any relations to that. In fact that just shows how greedy Tim is since no other all-in-one uses 10 years of same old design with these thick bezels.

While I hear you on the bezels, no other all-in-one (and virtually no other monitor at all) is available at 5k resolution even 6 years after the iMac introduced it so greed isn’t the factor at all. You can buy a complete 27” iMac starting at about $1500, or you can buy a 5k monitor alone from LG for $1200. Who is greedy again?

 

[chucker23n1]

I can not understand one thing. Many here dream of increasing the iMac display to 30-32", but why? Is 27" really not enough today and why?

I think the 21-inch is starting to get a bit anachronistic.

Moving them to 24 and 32 makes sense to me.

In addition, do not forget that the resolution of such a monitor as in 6K is much higher and this will give even more work to not-the-strongest GPUs, which only today, after 5-6 years, begin to normally withstand 5K resolution in heavy graphics tasks..

Yes, of course. But such is the march of progress.

 

[MiniMacDonald]

I'll bite on the Mac mini if they stop with the soldered-on storage.

I'd really like to see a Mac mini with accessible (and user-upgradable) internal storage & RAM. The RAM on the current one can be done but it's not as simple as spinning off the bottom anymore.

I'd also like a unicorn, as long as I'm wishing for things that I won't ever see.

I’d be pissed if they re-introduced swappable storage because I bought the 2018 model, unless of course Apple made the upgrade an allowable retrofit to my 2018. Then I too would be wishing for a unicorn.

 

[chucker23n1]

I’d be pissed if they re-introduced swappable storage because I bought the 2018 model,

Unlikely.

unless of course Apple made the upgrade an allowable retrofit to my 2018. Then I too would be wishing for a unicorn.

Exceedingly unlikely.

 

[B.A.T]

They can redesign the next iMac back to the 2011 model for all I care. When my 2013 model dies I'll buy whatever current model they have.

 

[Mago]

Nobody but you and a few complainers cares if the machines “look modern.” We care about what the machines do.

Agree, I'm in the same team, I'll add to your opinion, business main purpose is to make money and don't care about selling lies, Beauty, health porn or actual solutions.

I believe there was a time where Apple was doing well granting priority to look over function, but this model has an end and sooner or later somebody should bring the rudder the required adjust to recover the customers appealing, this happened and people like Jony Ive (besides it's worst pitfalls the butterfly keyboard and thermal cornering) had a secondary role, negative for Ive's career, I believe he leaves Apple both as retribution for the expensive failures related to macbook keyboard and as jailbreak needed by his career to allow his designs a new home where his audience isn't affected by design decisions sacrificing performance or reliability.

Do you understand what makes Tim Cook the most successful CEO in history?

Metrics? What are the metrics defining the best CEO? Absolute money earnings? Absolute grew? Relatively earnings increase? Relative grew?

For absolute earnings, the best CEO should be some Saudi crown prince

For absolute grew? Definitely not cook, this belongs to our missed Steve Jobs.

Relative earnings increase in top 500 corporations? It's difficult but I mean this title belongs to Elon Musk and Space X (not Tesla)

Relative Grew? Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg.

From all these I think Elon Musk by mean acheivements and how inspires people it's the No 1 CEO today.

I think Cook is doing really good and very conservative, his only failures where when he put Apple in the middle of the political discussion, and when the Macintosh business was allowed to fall due insufficient oversight on what's happening, another failure (which seems he'd amended) was to allow some tribes at Applev Jony s, Craig, iPhone, medía, no business division should be allowed to control Apple, and we know how the iPhone team rules almost everything, deserved or not it's an management error.

 

[Voyageur]

And with the bezel size, it simply makes sense that they could increase the screen size while retaining approximately the same physical size like they have done on every other product.

It's not obligatory. It may turn out that the iMac becomes a little more compact in proportion to the reduction of the frames.

The base iMac at 27” 5k and the regular and Pro iMac at 32” 6k seems much more fitting for today.

Well, for me, 30-32 inches is too much. The large size of the display still imposes restrictions in the form of the distance at which you should sit from the computer - this is also important. Moreover, after all, these aimaks are computers of the consumer class, not Pro. Extra large display is good at work, yes, but not always and not everywhere and it cannot be called universal for everyone. I specifically looked at the network ratings of the most popular monitors for 2019-2020 and it remains 25-27", as in recent years

 

[IchBinMatt]

Ordered a maxed out 27" iMac (except RAM because I will upgrade it myself) on March 2nd. Expected delivery was March 16th. Just received an email today that due to an unexpected delay, it will now be delivered on March 20th.

• I am not sure if delays are common on built to order (BTO) macs, but this might be related to a minor refresh or coronavirus.

I'm not sure if this helps the rumor/leaker at all, but this is what I'm going through with my order at the moment.

 

[BlandUsername]

I'll bite on the Mac mini if they stop with the soldered-on storage.

I'd really like to see a Mac mini with accessible (and user-upgradable) internal storage & RAM. The RAM on the current one can be done but it's not as simple as spinning off the bottom anymore.

I'd also like a unicorn, as long as I'm wishing for things that I won't ever see.

I bought a new one when the last refresh occurred, but they can take my money if the updated the platform to something we can update and refresh.

 

[zhenya]

It's not obligatory. It may turn out that the iMac becomes a little more compact in proportion to the reduction of the frames.

Well, for me, 30-32 inches is too much. The large size of the display still imposes restrictions in the form of the distance at which you should sit from the computer - this is also important. Moreover, after all, these aimaks are computers of the consumer class, not Pro. Extra large display is good at work, yes, but not always and not everywhere and it cannot be called universal for everyone. I specifically looked at the network ratings of the most popular monitors for 2019-2020 and it remains 25-27", as in recent years

Right, so they'd still offer a 27" iMac, it'd just be the smaller version. 32" would be the upgrade version.

It's unlikely Apple will offer an in-between 24" because they are really strict at maintaining a consistent PPI. That's 4k @ 21", 5k @ 27", and 6k @ 32".

I doubt 21" monitors amount for much of any sales volume these days.

 

[Mago]

Moderator edited my last message, I'll try to express without content restricted to some subforum.

The only reason why I'll kickoff ....

Apple lost a lot of customers every day the blonde baseball player criticize the iPhone because Cook support to blue pitcher, Apple stocks belongs to both baseball teams (blue and red) not to a single team, neither should be allowed it to be associated as some baseball team's business."


Patience....

 

[russell_314]

Because then we’d all still be stuck with software distributed on floppy disks; developers will always support the lowest common denominator and not support the new, optional, “choice” thing.

If that were the case I would be able to play WoW on my Chromebook... Damn you Bliz for not supporting Chrome OS! 😂

 

[Freida]

That is nonsense! Apple prides itself on design, markets it that way and its what they have been all about. Customers love that and care about that. As someone said (maybe Steve, not sure) - great design is not only how things look but also how things work and Apple wants to be great at both and customers expect that too.
In the case of iMac here, you are wrong. One example (that I feel is enough) - the bezels are huge which take space that could be used for bigger screen (how it works according to your definition) and therefore we get less. So to make it modern, you reduce the bezels which consequently improves the use too.
So no, not few people. A lot that care. Sure, average joe might not care as much as tech people etc. but I hope this page is not talking about average joes/janes here. My mum will take anything as she is average jane but if Apple catered for them then we would never have so many great things. Definitely no pro machines
So yeah, we care and we want better design that is more up to date. Less bezels, bigger screen, better thermals etc.

Nobody but you and a few complainers cares if the machines “look modern.” We care about what the machines do.

 

[CarlJ]

MacRumors needs to start charging for the use of the word "bezels", as it's been used like 100 times in the last few pages by campaigners for smaller ones. Enough with the bezels! We don't care!

 

[Freida]

Where is this coming from? The post from the other user you quoted is not implying anything like that. So why bring Tim etc. into it?
Anyway, just like Pros complained about Mac Pro until it got addressed (even though Tim was building trilion value) then this is something similar. Apple is all about feedback and if people don't provide it then Apple does what they want. In the past, many products were altered because people/media etc. complained and this could/should be one of the cases.
Including Tim and how he raised stock price is actually fairly irrelevant to the post and you are just shifting the argument to something completely different.

the iMac designed is old, flawed and needs rework. In fact, even the iMac Pro showed us that the internal can be reworked to be much better so iMac should get slimmer bezels -> bigger screen, better thermals like iMac Pro (keep the ram door though). Or you are telling me that you expect this design with compromises to be kept for another 8 years?
This is not the case of changing for the sake of it, this is actually a case where the product needs to improve and its been long over due.

Your being utterly ridiculous. Do you understand what makes Tim Cook the most successful CEO in history? One trillion dollars.

Tim Cook Has Increased Apple’s Value by More Than $1 Trillion Since Replacing Steve Jobs. No Other CEO Can Say That.

A substantial portion of Apple’s $1 trillion run has unfolded over the past 12 months. Apple shares sport a year-to-date gain of 85%, increasing the company’s market cap by close to $600 billion.

www.barrons.com

The fact that Cook’s Apple has given customers so many great products has propelled Apple to its current success.

Apple’s board of directors is quite aware of exactly how loyal and satisfied Apple’s customers are. And Apple has benefited in the form of record revenues, profits and investor confidence.

The board is absolutely thrilled with Tim Cook’s performance. If you think they’re going to fire him because the iMac’s design—truly timeless, and one of Ive’s hallmark achievements—hasn’t been refreshed in 7 years, you couldn’t possibly be more wrong.

Whether you, other forum posters or some techTubers think you need thinner bezels is completely irrelevant to Apple or Tim Cook. They could not possibly care less. Complain away 🤷‍♂️

 

[smulji]

Where is this coming from? The post from the other user you quoted is not implying anything like that. So why bring Tim etc. into it?
Anyway, just like Pros complained about Mac Pro until it got addressed (even though Tim was building trilion value) then this is something similar. Apple is all about feedback and if people don't provide it then Apple does what they want. In the past, many products were altered because people/media etc. complained and this could/should be one of the cases.
Including Tim and how he raised stock price is actually fairly irrelevant to the post and you are just shifting the argument to something completely different.

the iMac designed is old, flawed and needs rework. In fact, even the iMac Pro showed us that the internal can be reworked to be much better so iMac should get slimmer bezels -> bigger screen, better thermals like iMac Pro (keep the ram door though). Or you are telling me that you expect this design with compromises to be kept for another 8 years?
This is not the case of changing for the sake of it, this is actually a case where the product needs to improve and its been long over due.

I agree that change is overdue but that doesn't have to come from the outside. As Apple showed with the 16" MBP, the vast majority of changes happened on the inside. And Apple can definitely take that path with this year's iMac update. One can barely tell the difference (if at all) between the 15.6" MBP and 16" MBP and yet the latter is much improved (and not just because of the keyboard).

 

[Freida]

You are right. But they also reduced the bezels

I agree that change is overdue but that doesn't have to come from the outside. As Apple showed with the 16" MBP, the vast majority of changes happened on the inside. And Apple can definitely take that path with this year's iMac update. One can barely tell the difference (if at all) between the 15.6" MBP and 16" MBP and yet the latter is much improved (and not just because of the keyboard).

 

[Spungoflex]

9th gen is in the current form (8th too) but regardless, the benchmarks I've seen so far show very little improvement over 9th gen. So do you mind sharing why you think its significant?

10th gen reportedly brings hyperthreading to the entire line. 4 cores/8 threads > 4 cores/4 threads.

 

[high heaven]

For those who left behind Mac Pro once iMacs became powerful enough to meet their requirements, iMac Pro is the perfect upgrade path. Those who need or want a tower desktop have an excellent, affordable solution with Mac Pro.

You may not think there is sufficient demand from pros to justify both iMac Pro and Mac Pro, but Apple knows otherwise.

If Apple made a mid-tower, Core-X, four PCIe slot, four DIMM slot version of the Mac Pro, they would save maybe $300-500 in BOM cost, while increasing other costs. You’d still be looking at a $5,000+ machine.

Not at all. $5000 is not an affordable option. Intel CPU itself is expensive and yet the performance is worse than AMD. Not all people need Xeon or Core X.

Also, iMac Pro's cooling system is still worse than most normal desktop which can have better coolers.

 

[Freida]

I must have fell asleep as I thought hyperthreading was the norm for the past 10 or so years. When did we lose it?

10th gen reportedly brings hyperthreading to the entire line. 4 cores/8 threads > 4 cores/4 threads.

 

[cmaier]

MacRumors needs to start charging for the use of the word "bezels", as it's been used like 100 times in the last few pages by campaigners for smaller ones. Enough with the bezels! We don't care!

I’m going to rename my dog Bezel. Sounds vaguely British. He’s a very regal dog.

 

[Freida]

YOU don't care. Others do.
Also, its a bit sad that you don't care. If companies catered for you then there would be less innovation.
You should care! Why? Because when you do and you expect more then the more happens.
If Steve Jobs wasn't expecting a lot then the original iPhone wouldn't be as good as it was. You shouldn't settle for things when they can be improved. Its what pushes us forward. As soon as people start to settle then the progress stagnates. Bezels are huge and should be improved. Simple as that.

MacRumors needs to start charging for the use of the word "bezels", as it's been used like 100 times in the last few pages by campaigners for smaller ones. Enough with the bezels! We don't care!

 

[Unregistered 4U]

A lot that care. Sure, average joe might not care as much as tech people etc. but I hope this page is not talking about average joes/janes here. My mum will take anything as she is average jane but if Apple catered for them then we would never have so many great things.

It IS talking about average jones/janes, because average joes/janes buy a FAR greater share of computers than tech people just because there’s more of them. SO when we say “a lot care” and then define ”lot” as tech people, we’ve just redefined “lot” to be “a few”. How many iMacs were sold this quarter?

MacRumors needs to start charging for the use of the word "bezels", as it's been used like 100 times in the last few pages by campaigners for smaller ones. Enough with the bezels! We don't care!

I remember the glory days of “chamfer“. MMmmmmm.

 

[Nugget]

YOU don't care. Others do.
Also, its a bit sad that you don't care. If companies catered for you then there would be less innovation.
You should care! Why? Because when you do and you expect more then the more happens.
If Steve Jobs wasn't expecting a lot then the original iPhone wouldn't be as good as it was. You shouldn't settle for things when they can be improved. Its what pushes us forward. As soon as people start to settle then the progress stagnates. Bezels are huge and should be improved. Simple as that.

I do care. I care that a next generation iMac has improved cooling. I care that a next generation iMac runs quieter under load. I care that Apple are able to put truly modern CPUs and GPUs into their products without throttling. I care about the quality of the built in speakers in the iMac. Those are areas where Apple can innovate and truly improve the product. They're also areas where smaller bezels might even be a liability.

I care that a next generation iMac retains end user access to RAM slots facilitating upgrades and longevity.

I don't care in the least about cosmetics like bezel size. That's definitely not innovation in any reasonable sense of the word and it barely qualifies as an improvement. It ranks just above having a rose gold iMac in my view.

I think it's a bid sad that people are so fixated on irrelevancies like bezel size because that's exactly the sort of attitude that has led to a decade of poor innovation from Apple where form was prioritized over function in nearly every aspect of product development. As others have pointed out, the 16" MacBook Pro is a great indicator that the long, dark decade of thin may be coming to an end and Apple will be free to actually innovate in the future.

I hope we don't have to settle for anything less.