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Previously Reliable Leaker CoinX Suggests New iMac and Mac Mini Models Are Coming Soon
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Having bought the 2019 version last July, selfishly I’m hoping there isn’t a mindblowing update. I’ll have regret not holding out longer.
Might make reselling a current version more challenging if they present a revolutionary iMac. I’m being too optimistic!
I am in the same boat as you. I bought a new iMac last July to replace my old 2011 iMac. Oh well....
Whats wrong? Have you seen it recently? Those bezels are awful. It is not aging well. I can live with the chin as that doesn't bother me but those bezels are insane. Literally waste of space that could be used for bigger screen which we can all appreaciate
Depends on when Intel releases CPUs using a BGA socket. They skipped BGA for the 9th generation and have not heard about any 10th generation on BGA. There are listings for Ice Lake BGA CPUs so maybe then...
Well Intel did not have a replacement Xeon CPU until a few months ago and AMD was also late to the party with new GPUs that were reasonable upgrades. Now that both are available, the rumors of a 2020 iMac Pro are heating up.
Agreed. The latest rumor for the 2020 iMac Pro says it will still use a 27" display so do not see the "non-Pro" iMac getting a larger one.
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I think people forget that the iMac is aimed at both casual consumers as well as the more pro users. Apple is unlikely to implement any change that benefits only a small group of users while potentially alienating the rest of their user base.
An XDR display upgrade is more likely to come to the iMac Pro because it would be overkill for the majority of users.
I don’t expect much significant changes to come to the iMac. More likely just a spec upgrade than anything else.
An XDR display upgrade is more likely to come to the iMac Pro because it would be overkill for the majority of users.
I don’t expect much significant changes to come to the iMac. More likely just a spec upgrade than anything else.
What do you undestand by "own-design"? are T2, A9 Apple's own-design or "own-desing", Apple didnt develop ARM architecture, just liecensed it and taylored it every year for its own products, actually Apple what does is to customize latest ARM core design for three diefferent c SOC: for iPhone, iPad, Tx mac system controller.
Sameway, licensing AMD Zen, allows Apple to customize it and name it "its own design", BS wording.
Axios actually arent quoting Intel, no reference quoting Intel, also details switching to ARM, Intel its just aware Apple wont order anymore certain CPUs starting 2020 (neither theyre entitiled to know about Apple's plans).
Its evident you have never switched an kernel from platform, as example Linux Kernel took years to reach maturity to be deployed in serverts, it cost the hosting and arm millions to debug the ARM optimized kernel, not that easy.
Further, where is the evidence about Apple's testing something relted to an ARM kernel ? (t2 is not part of the Kernel, its an isolated environment, sameway Catalyst its about High level App migration from iPadOS to MacOS, no ARM-tuning implications, and Actually few Catalyst applications need some ARM and x64 code for certain in-lines not platform agnostic.
So, now explain me, while there is no ARM-eviodence beyond biased and miss quoted articles nothing pointing to actual sources explicitly pointing out ARM? and meanwhile there are tons of evidence about APPLE testing AMD Zen platform, as removing macOS provisions to prevent runt macOS on AMD systems, to include drivers for latest and un-released AMD Apu based in Zen, Vega and Navi ? Why?
Apple can control Mac CPU supplychain (besides other intel-related pains) just licensing AMD Zen and customizing even beyon x86-64 compatibility, to manufacture Mac-only CPUs and Mac only for this CPU.
All this cr@p about ARM based mac, it just BS from journalist and fanboys that never coded and never integrated hardware.
Only ARM-Mac with some sense possible to come in the future is an system based on iPad SOC and running Catalyst-Only applications very like Windows 10 RT systems, not replacing the x86-64 Mac Platform, but as complement for a market niche that dont need X86 performance/compatibility, but that does'nt like the iPad as Mac Replacement.
Hmm.
So far:
iMac on a mix of Coffee Lake-S and Coffee Lake Refresh-S
iMac Pro on Skylake-W 2100
Mac mini on Coffee Lake-B (which is like the 45 W Coffee Lake-H, but with 65 W)
Possible updates:
iMac on Comet Lake-S. It would let them go to up to ten cores rather than eight. Plausible, as Comet Lake-S should be shipping soon.
iMac Pro on Cascade Lake-W 3100; basically the little brother of the Mac Pro's 3200. Plausible if they want to ship this in tandem with the regular iMac?
iMac Pro instead on Cooper Lake-W 4100(?). I'm guessing this won't launch until fall, though. So probably not.
Mac mini on Comet Lake-B. So that's not really a thing (yet) — if Intel wants to do these -B variants again at all, they'll probably do so when Comet Lake-H ships. And that's not for another several months. (Likewise, there are no Coffee Lake Refresh-B parts either.)
My guess is the Mac mini part is wrong, simply because Intel doesn't seem to have suitable upgrades.
(Wild card is always AMD.)
They released two versions of the Mac Mini back in 2009 ish I believe. One was for regular consumers and another was actually called a Mac Mini Server aimed at those who wanted it for that purpose.
So it’s absolutely possible they could release two variations again but have the more consumer oriented machine with a proper GPU and power supply thats external.
In 1994 maybe.
In 2020, a tower is not something most people want or need.
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Not much to switch, really. Just some testing and maybe optimizations. Some plug-ins like FCP that might be microarch-recompiled. That's about it.
Not really. The GPU sux. You can't drive a single XDR display let alone more.
This marketing nonsense doesn't hide the fact that mini is too weak for a lot of things.
When they make it powerful enough to drive 1x XDR display then it will truly be ready for "industrial-grade tasks". Until then, the GPU is the bottleneck for a lot of things. Its simply too weak.
This marketing nonsense doesn't hide the fact that mini is too weak for a lot of things.
When they make it powerful enough to drive 1x XDR display then it will truly be ready for "industrial-grade tasks". Until then, the GPU is the bottleneck for a lot of things. Its simply too weak.
Who said the Mac Mini was for "casual" tasks? Times have changed since the mini was first introduced and this 2018 unit was definitely designed to serve a pro segment. Just read the very first paragraph on Apple's Mac Mini page:
"And now with eighth-generation Intel quad-core and 6-core processors and Intel UHD Graphics 630, Mac mini has even more compute power for industrial-grade tasks. So whether you’re running a live concert sound engine or testing your latest iOS or iPadOS app, Mac mini is the shortest distance between a great idea and a great result."
Mac mini
The new, smaller Mac mini with the M4 or M4 Pro chip. Built for Apple Intelligence. Now with front and back ports.www.apple.com
New Mac mini!!?? But we haven't started complaining yet!! They're just taking all the fun out of stuff.
Tiger Lake isn't starting to ship until summer, so probably realistically in fall.
And like Ice Lake, it'll probably first ship for low-power devices. So Apple might move the MacBook Air to it, or maybe (less likely) the 13-inch MacBook Pro. Certainly not the iMac, iMac Pro or Mac mini.
As for Thunderbolt and USB: Thunderbolt 3 and USB4 are essentially the same thing. Thunderbolt 4 is unknown at this point — it might just be identical to 3, or it might be like 3, but with twice the bandwidth due to PCIe 4.
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Apple does not use ARM's core design at all. Apple Ax aren't Cortex-related. Early ones were: the Apple A4 was a Cortex-A8, and the A5 was a Cortex-A9. Since the A6, they're completely custom designs that only happen to implement the same ISA.
You can license either ARM's ISA, or ARM's cores. Apple does the former.
No.
The equivalent would be Apple licensing x86.
I have a bad feeling that we won’t get a normal iMac redesign again and moreover we won’t get a better display this time...
The 2020 iMac Pro is rumored to go to Mini-LED back-lighting on it's 27" 5K display, so while that might not make the 2020 iMac 5K, it will probably follow soon enough.
Unless you're a gamer. A "Mac Mini Pro" could potentially make for a great gaming-oriented Mac