Pricing Leak Suggests MacBook Air Release at WWDC, Retina MacBook Pro Update Shipping Later?

[bkribbs]

If I want a Macbook Pro for college this fall, and would rather not buy a full price retina (would love to do refurbished) or can do a regular non retina, what is my best option?

Will the prices on the old retinas drop? Or the regular macbook pros? Don't know what to do.

 

[Matacarvalho]

Further supporting my claims:

There are rumors about the 13 inch Retina MacBook Pro getting a new design:
This is very well possible because: IGZO Panels in 13.3" format are being mass produced for months now, in contrast to the 15" panels, which are just entering production.

Secondly, the 13" won't get the Iris Pro graphics but the 4600 ones. These are widely available. The Iris Pro parts on the other hand are not. 15 inch rMBP will be updated later than WWDC.

BTW, it's 2:44 a.m where I live. Good night.

makes perfect sense for me and all i wanted was the mac pro 15

 

[Michael Goff]

There you go: One more reason why Apple is going to slim down the Retina MacBook Pro: Because it will ultimately be the Retina Air, even though it's called "Pro".

This is also [part of] the distinction of the 13" Air and the 13" Pro line, because as you have mentioned: There is no real distinction if Apple presents a 13inch Retina Air, therefore, the rMBP will just become the Retina Air.

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Early Adopters are always left behind. Look at the first MacBook Air, which was an awfully expensive piece of crap.

Now -that- makes sense.

13inch rMBP should get discrete graphics, whereas the rMBA have the upcoming crappy Intel integrated card. No reason why the 13inch rMBP shouldn't have a discrete graphics card at that price.

(or they combine the Air and 13inch Pro into one device and the Pro line just becomes the 15inch)

They wouldn't really be able to make it that thin and still have a discrete graphics card. It would have either poor battery life or poor heat dispersion or both.

 

[wizard]

A lot of people also do stupid things, there are whole web sites devoted to them, but that doesn't mean the behavior is rational. Now I'm not saying your behavior is rational just that you are expecting way to much if you expect Apple to support your decisions.

To put it plainly PPC is a dying technology. It is time to smarten up and consider alternative code. You wouldn't expect Ford to support your model T would you?

Aye, but if we don't mention it to them then it will never happen. Let them know periodically that there is a market. They're money driven.

Until they offer the ability to run legacy software they won't get my upgrade dollars and I know a lot of other people who are doing the same thing. I just keep fixing these older machines for them. Franky lives on...

 

[Nik]

If I want a Macbook Pro for college this fall, and can't afford a full price retina (would love to do refurbished) or can do a regular non retina, what is my best option?

Will the prices on the old retinas drop? Or the regular macbook pros? Don't know what to do.

As soon as updated Retinas come out, the old ones will get cheaper.
Another tip would be to take a look on ebay: There are a lot of people who bought the Retina MacBook Pro but later realized they actually can not afford them and therefore need to sell them quickly.

 

[Mr. RPG]

Wait now there won't be any Haswell processors in the new MacBooks....?

Well then..

 

[iRun26.2]

There you go: One more reason why Apple is going to slim down the Retina MacBook Pro: Because it will ultimately be the Retina Air, even though it's called "Pro".

This is also [part of] the distinction of the 13" Air and the 13" Pro line, because as you have mentioned: There is no real distinction if Apple presents a 13inch Retina Air, therefore, the rMBP will just become the Retina Air.

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Early Adopters are always left behind. Look at the first MacBook Air, which was an awfully expensive piece of crap.

In its day, it was awesome!

Mine, in fact, still works!

 

[unobtainium]

It was a 0,1GHz spec bump. Not really an update after all.

Well it was a newer improved processor, reconfigured internals, and price changes. I'm not surprised to hear they might wait before updating again. I'm guessing Sept/Oct.

 

[devilcm3]

Here in Germany, the rMBP is NOT in short supply. On the contraty, it is widely available in big quantities.
The MBA on the other hand are not really available anymore.
By comparing the two situations you could further support the rumor that the rMBP will indeed not be updated at WWDC and the reason for this has to lie in availability of certain components (IGZO, short display supply is named as one reason why rMBP are not released at WWDC; and Iris Pro).

Anyway, you may believe whatever you want. I have made my predictions pretty clear.

Germany is a mid-market country? okay.^^
So, where is it in short supply?

try Amazon UK, Amazon FR, and Amazon US.
It seems like German people don't like retinas eh?

Further supporting my claims:

There are rumors about the 13 inch Retina MacBook Pro getting a new design:
This is very well possible because: IGZO Panels in 13.3" format are being mass produced for months now, in contrast to the 15" panels, which are just entering production.

Secondly, the 13" won't get the Iris Pro graphics but the 4600 ones. These are widely available. The Iris Pro parts on the other hand are not. 15 inch rMBP will be updated later than WWDC.

BTW, it's 2:44 a.m where I live. Good night.

IGZO panels are 16:9 ratio, macbook pro uses 16:10 panels.
i am certain these panels will not go into the macbook line, at least not for this announcement.

 

[Risco]

There's also apparently a special way to underclock the 47W processors (with 5200 graphics) such that they only output 37W, but I didn't get a chance to check up on that.

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The 13" as well? Which chip do you think they'd use?

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget

 

[Nik]

try Amazon UK, Amazon FR, and Amazon US.
It seems like German people don't like retinas eh?



IGZO panels are 16:9 ratio, macbook pro uses 16:10 panels.
i am certain these panels will not go into the macbook line, at least not for this announcement.

So, where exactly are the Retina MBPs in tight supply at Amazon US? Please check first before posting!
Maybe germans are more rational in their buying decisions, who knows

 

[devilcm3]

So, where exactly are the Retina MBPs in tight supply at Amazon US? Please check first before posting!
Maybe germans are more rational in their buying decisions, who knows

Go look for "macbook retina display", how many are still selling new stocks.

You guys spend more money on beer compare to the rest of the world, i assume thats rational buying decisions

 

[skaertus]

What would the difference be between a 13" MBA with retina and a 13"MBP with retina?

Why don't you just get that one when it's refreshed?

If the MBA comes with a retina display, then I may buy it. But all rumors are pointing to the release of a non-retina MBA...

 

[charlituna]

If people actually read the articles it was referring to, it said the rMBP may not even come out at WWDC this year but later in the year.

I don't expect any hardware to come out at WWDC. Although a silent release thy week isn't out of order

 

[JonathanK81]

Go look for "macbook retina display", how many are still selling new stocks.

You guys spend more money on beer compare to the rest of the world, i assume thats rational buying decisions

I don't know why you're posting that...cause the rMBP 15 AND 13 are both easily found on Amazon US. They're not in short supply. Now if you try and find the high-end MBA 13, Amazon doesn't have any. Nik is usually spot on with his posts. Not sure why beer has anything to do with MacBook laptops though.

 

[skaertus]

Buy a better spec'd Ivy Bridge rMBP if you can afford. For USD 2600,00 you'll get the high-end 13" rMBP with 768GB SSD storage, 8GB RAM and a 3.0GHz i7. Looks like a good deal for brazilians giving that it costs less than the 128GB 13" rMBP sold in Brazil.

Well, the standard Ivy Bridge processor provides plenty of horsepower for my needs. And the amount of memory (8 GB) and of storage (256 GB on the higher-end model) are alright too. I don't need a 3 GHz i7, nor 768 GB SSD.

However, I have two main concerns about the Ivy Bridge version compared to the Haswell one:

(1) Battery life. I want a laptop with the longest battery life possible. I like to use the laptop with the screen on 100% brightness, and I would like the battery to keep it running for hours. I haven't managed to do it with any laptop. But Haswell may tell a different story here.

(2) Graphics performance. I don't play any games on my laptop, but I don't want it to lag at all. I've read some complaints about lagging with the 13" rMBP and the HD4000 video card. My 3rd gen iPad has a beautiful retina display, but a lot of lag too. Ditto for my iPhone 4S. I don't want the experience to repeat. I want the laptop to feel fast.

One more thing: I'm not only talking about battery life and graphics performance under OS X. I'm talking about battery life and graphics performance under both OS X and Windows. I intend to run Windows on BootCamp (or Parallels) extensively, and perhaps 50% or even more of the time. So, I want a laptop that performs very well under Windows too.

That's the reason why I was waiting for Haswell: long battery life and no lag at all. I don't care about sheer CPU performance, nor storage. Can the Ivy Bridge version provide me with that?

 

[polee]

I would love that. My hope is that I can order my new MBA Monday and have it by Friday. Longer battery life, better standard SSD and 8gb memory standard would be just awesome.

Yes these additions would make me get a new MacBook Air too!

 

[devilcm3]

I don't know why you're posting that...cause the rMBP 15 AND 13 are both easily found on Amazon US. They're not in short supply. Now if you try and find the high-end MBA 13, Amazon doesn't have any. Nik is usually spot on with his posts. Not sure why beer has anything to do with MacBook laptops though.

please look carefully.
You can found "used" ones, but new ones?
I can only locate new rMBP 15 high-end.
low end is sold out either.

nope, beer jokes are only for germans.

 

[JonathanK81]

please look carefully.
You can found "used" ones, but new ones?
I can only locate new rMBP 15 high-end.
low end is sold out either.

nope, beer jokes are only for germans.

Low-end Retina MacBook Pro 13

High-end Retina MacBook Pro 13

Low-end Retina MacBook Pro 15

Please look carefully? I think someone else should before telling another to do so. All brand new and all sold directly from Amazon.

 

[skaertus]

please look carefully.
You can found "used" ones, but new ones?
I can only locate new rMBP 15 high-end.
low end is sold out either.

nope, beer jokes are only for germans.

Here's the 15" rMBP low-end for sale at Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook...1370483381&sr=8-6&keywords=macbook+pro+retina

 

[devilcm3]

Low-end Retina MacBook Pro 13

High-end Retina MacBook Pro 13

Low-end Retina MacBook Pro 15

Please look carefully? I think someone else should before telling another to do so. All brand new and all sold directly from Amazon.

Ow .. sorry!
must have missed it

 

[ASKendrew]

I have been thinking of picking up a Time Capsule, but I think I'll wait now!

 

[devilcm3]

Here's the 15" rMBP low-end for sale at Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook...1370483381&sr=8-6&keywords=macbook+pro+retina

yeah, i wasn't sure why when i search for the product it only shows used..

oh well, it seems that only amazon US still have a lot of stocks

 

[QCassidy352]

Like many small businesses and educators I also need Classic and PPC support. If Apple brings those back they'll find a lot of people upgrading older machines to the latest MacBook Pros. There is a lot of older hardware that needs connecting with our machines and a tremendous amount of older software that needs Classic/PPC.

I'm sure it would be nice for some, but not happening. Apple doesn't move backwards.

 

[iRun26.2]

If the MBA comes with a retina display, then I may buy it. But all rumors are pointing to the release of a non-retina MBA...

I know, it is sad.

It would have been nice if they could have told us what the exact pricing was. If there would have been significant price differences between two 11" MBA and two 13" MBA models we could infer that they had retina screen options by the large difference in price.

I've read so many good things about IGZO screens and I want one. I think Apple no longer considers the MBA the 'leading edge'. They seem to be shifting towards being an 'entry level ' machine.

I wish Apple would go out of their way to reclaim the lead in the ultra-book category. The may soon be followers.