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Originally posted by rekras
i dissagree, apple simply would not release a machine that ugly. i think the posters of the image cut and pasted that apple cease and dissist document on their site to make it look more authentic, that g4 wasnt even symetrical and totally goes against every design standard the apple design team has.

what about the new iMac???? eh?


think about it....new designs man, that's apple
 
Originally posted by rekras
i dissagree, apple simply would not release a machine that ugly. i think the posters of the image cut and pasted that apple cease and dissist document on their site to make it look more authentic, that g4 wasnt even symetrical and totally goes against every design standard the apple design team has.

You can think what you want... but "I think it's ugly" is not evidence against it's existance.

There were numerous articles on the web about how leaked images of the Apple Cube were fake/photoshopped and poorly designed. They ended up being true.

There were countless posts about how the current quicksilver design were "obviously photoshoped"... and they were real.

Oh... and another common thread between the Cube images and Quicksilver images were that Apple Legal also requested those images pulled.

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Boy...with all those "turbine" fans and air vents i bet you could test aircraft inside that case.

Bet it sounds like helicopter. That one's going under the desk.
 
Originally posted by MacRumorSkeptic
Its probably all fake. Before apple legal had the french site take the pics down I translated it. macbidouille.com says it got the pictures from spymac.com while spymac says it got them from macbidouille.com

Actually, MacBidouille credited Spymac for the PDF. While Spymac credited the images to MacBidouille.

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What I am curious about is HOW exactly can APPLE demand that anyone remove anything from a website. Let alone a picture ?

What kind of legal action coul they use?

uhh is it illegal to post a picture from whatever source.

I dont understand the legal aspects of this, but there are a lot of things that people do on the internet that others dont like, but cant do much legally!
 
Re: New Power Mac Photos - Mirror


These specs seem like EXACTLY what everyone here is dying to get their hands on. BUT, they don't match up with the case. The case has no FireWire 2, and there are no ports on the front of the case.

don't get me wrong. I would buy one of these in a second, but somebody is bluffing here.
 
Originally posted by Grokgod
What I am curious about is HOW exactly can APPLE demand that anyone remove anything from a website. Let alone a picture ?

What kind of legal action coul they use?

uhh is it illegal to post a picture from whatever source.

I dont understand the legal aspects of this, but there are a lot of things that people do on the internet that others dont like, but cant do much legally!

Here you go, straight from the horse's mouth :


This letter is one behalf of our customer, APPLE Computer, Inc ("APPLE"), and report to the public postings and display of photographs and files purporting to Be depictions of future APPLE products ("Material") one your web site At .

Pursuant to APPLE internal policies, this standard of Material is not permitted to Be disclosed gold published to any unauthorized let us persons. By continuing to publish, display, gold link to the Material, you and your company may Be disclosing APPLE confidential business information and/or APPLE trade secret and also may Be held liable for infringing Apple' S rights under various federal and state laws.

Therefore, we request that you cease and desist from displaying the Material one all Web sites and servers under your control, including any hyperlinks to other hirings where the Material may Be available.

Because this is has matter we take very seriously, we ask that you immediately confirm in writing that you cuts removed the Material from your web site.

Sincerely,
 
Re: Re: New Power Mac Photos - Mirror

Originally posted by iH8Quark
These specs seem like EXACTLY what everyone here is dying to get their hands on. BUT, they don't match up with the case. The case has no FireWire 2, and there are no ports on the front of the case.

How can we be sure about the FireWire 2?
 
Two possibilities

Personally I think it looks genuine. I see no reason to believe it's faked.

In any case, there are two possibilities to apples lack of new Desktop Pro announcements and products.

One is they have it ready to go and are wanting to spring it on people. I doubt that very much. Though I'm surprised that it's been so hard. Given the architecture of the Xserve is so similar (potentially) to a desktop G4 I'm surprised we haven't seen announcements of a xserve specked desktop machine. DDR, etc.

The other possibility is that they're working hard at it. Apple can't afford their past (and heavily criticised) strategy of announcing new products, months before actually shipping.

At least we should be able to be confident that when Apple DO finally announce something (G5, G4 on DDR, etc) it will be coming SOON. Hell, otherwise they'd just announce it now, and release it when they can be bothered.

One thing I think we can all agree on. Apple needs to do something with the desktop pro market beyond minor speed bumps, and they need to do it soon.
 
Re: Re: Re: New Power Mac Photos - Mirror

Originally posted by hitman


How can we be sure about the FireWire 2?

FireWire 2 has a different connector. It's shaped more like an I-Beam. Look it up at the IEE1394 association's website.

It looks curiously close to the "mystery port" on the eBay board.
 
unrelated topic

Like those original photos, sometimes people don't get a good taste of something before it's gone. Like a good Milwaukee bratwurst. In fact, I just learned of a new vintage of Old World mustard that looks interesting. Check out this .pdf if you are curious.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: New Power Mac Photos - Mirror

Originally posted by iH8Quark


FireWire 2 has a different connector. It's shaped more like an I-Beam. Look it up at the IEE1394 association's website.

It looks curiously close to the "mystery port" on the eBay board.

Here are images of the ports in question (Firewire2 and eBay board)

https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/05/20020502174828.shtml
 
Re: unrelated topic

Originally posted by D*I*S_Frontman
Like those original photos, sometimes people don't get a good taste of something before it's gone. Like a good Milwaukee bratwurst. In fact, I just learned of a new vintage of Old World mustard that looks interesting. Check out this .pdf if you are curious.

WTF???

you lost me there. I sense sarcasm, no? ;)
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: New Power Mac Photos - Mirror

Originally posted by iH8Quark


FireWire 2 has a different connector. It's shaped more like an I-Beam. Look it up at the IEE1394 association's website.

It looks curiously close to the "mystery port" on the eBay board.

FireWire and FireWire 2 on the same board? Doesn't that make one or the other port redundant?
 
Originally posted by chuckzee
What on earth would need a seven pound cooling unit?



We are looking at support for quads here folks. :D

Keep in mind that the manufacturing cost of a single G4 chip is around $250 US. That would make the chips alone about $1000. Add the rest of this new-fangled technology *hopes*, and we're looking at a price increase.

but i guess that's never stopped them before. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by chuckzee
What on earth would need a seven pound cooling unit?



We are looking at support for quads here folks. :D

Is it just the heat sink or an actually (liquid) cooling unit? Are we looking at fans actually positioned on top of the CPU?
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Power Mac Photos - Mirror

Originally posted by hitman


FireWire and FireWire 2 on the same board? Doesn't that make one or the other port redundant?

FireWire 2 is supposed to be backwards compatible. BUT the connectors do look different. Perhaps the backwards compatibility simply means you can run FW1 and 2 off the same chipset on the motherboard, with different connectors coming out of the machine.

maybe? pure speculation.
 
what's the color of the motherboard say? how about that huge green PCI card sticking up http://www.itsthebomb.com/gallery/powermacs_july_2002/pages/innards_jpg.htm

and while I'm at it, it says G5 ready? could oyu pop out the processor and plug in a G5 zif?

and note the handle IS still there!

the cd drives look chrome, white speaker, aluminum intake, headphone jack in front, white body (I'm suprised looking at the tiBook & Xserve) to work with the rest of the Mac products (note changes in iPod were not drastic)

but no monitor power supply? I guess they figure everyone has gone to the flat panel (very thought out prank, someone is not hiding in closets on this one).

this sumes up all the rumors for several months...I will bet this thing is sooooo it! maybe a slight modification, but I bet they call a press conference in august to say...

"sign up now boys, they're rolling out"!
 
where is it?

damn, what is it look like? Anyone saved the image? is it the new casing? any spec on it?
 
Yet another pic!

And here we have another pic of some nVidia Chip - is it a true pic of the Apple Mobo or just another PC mobo?
 

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Keep in mind that the manufacturing cost of a single G4 chip is around $250 US. That would make the chips alone about $1000. Add the rest of this new-fangled technology *hopes*, and we're looking at a price increase.

So just add another $1000 to the price of todays most expensive model. not much more..cause as you see the "new" technology (DDR; 333 system frontside bus, etc has been around for a while)


Imagine, Quad g4's running Jaguar at 1.4ghz--for about 4-5 grand. :eek:
 
Can't be true..

1.6 ghz?? That can't be true...if the G4 actually reach 1.6 ghz...Steve would have told us at the MWNY...There is no way he kept it low profile...He would make it a big news to increase sell for the Powermac...and even increase the imac speed...impossible!!
 
I have a question... Do the dual processor daughter cards connect to the mobo using one zif socket, or two, or a completely different connection... If they use zif sockets, Apple could make a mobo that supports 4 processors, but ship it with 2 or 1 standard, and sell the processor modules for $300-400 each... That would make sense, if it works, so lower end pro users can get an affordable machine with the ability to upgrade as they go, and the super-pro users where money isn't an issue would be able to get a fully configured G4...

Oh, and another question (I wasn't very good in conversions)- would 7kg be more plausible for the weight of the heat sink? Aluminum is a rather light material, and I can't imagine a heat sink weighing 7 pounds... they make bike frames from aluminum that weigh less than that... Of course, with their description of how it's held on, it seems pretty steady, and heavy... we've got major cooling power here...
 
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