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So do we know if the heat sink by itself is 7 lbs or is it the entire cooling system?
Also, what about that funky nVidia chip? It looks just like that n2 board they were developing.
Also, what about that funky nVidia chip? It looks just like that n2 board they were developing.
Stike---I've never seen an apple board with slots not running the same direction, plus the brown slot color is odd, and not seen since the beige macs
(that sure looks like a processor slot ont he left, though not an apple zif as I've seen em, though there is a handle there)
(that sure looks like a processor slot ont he left, though not an apple zif as I've seen em, though there is a handle there)
~Stike
I think i read that this image is a PR image that nVidea was using. It came from spymac, no?
~kaneda
MWNY was geared to show off the operating system. It was for domestic consumption. To get regular "mom and pop" customers excited about the OS. (There's been no other advertising for OS X, so my guess is, that's why they devote Macworld to the OS. It gets the most press).
I think i read that this image is a PR image that nVidea was using. It came from spymac, no?
~kaneda
MWNY was geared to show off the operating system. It was for domestic consumption. To get regular "mom and pop" customers excited about the OS. (There's been no other advertising for OS X, so my guess is, that's why they devote Macworld to the OS. It gets the most press).
Can we talk about the specs?
This is beyond anything the rumor sites have been talking about. If it's true, I'd say the 1 month wait was worth it.
from itsthebomb.com (credited to Spymac):
[Admin Edit: These are not claimed specs to this machine... instead these are specs posted a few weeks ago in an unrelated post by an unknown author... and are not related to this current rumor ]
Processor
Dual PowerPC G4 processors(1.2ghz,1.4ghz,1.6ghz)
Velocity Engine vector processing unit
Full 128-bit internal memory data paths
Powerful floating-point unit supporting single-cycle, double-precision calculations
Data stream prefetching operations supporting four simultaneous 32-bit data streams
512k on-chip L2 cache running at processor speed
2MB DDR SRAM L3 cache per processor
333MHz system frontside bus supporting over 2.7GB/s data throughput
Memory
512MB or 1024MB of 333MHz PC2700 DDR SDRAM with up to 5.4GB/s throughput (dual memory controllers 2.7 for each channel)
Four DIMM slots supporting up to 2GB of DDR SDRAM using the following:
128MB or 256MB DIMMs (64-bit wide, 128Mb technology)
512MB DIMMs (64-bit-wide, 256Mb technology)
I/O connections
AGP Pro 110watt universal slot supports graphics cards running at 8x,4x,2x
Six full-length 64-bit, 66MHz PCI slots supports 32-bit or 64-bit 3.3V PCI cards running at 33MHz respectively
One 10/100/1000BASE-T (Gigabit) RJ-45 Ethernet connectors, on logic board
One 56k v.92 voice/fax modem RJ-11 teleco connector,on logic board
Ready for wireless networking: Built-in antennas and card slot for optional 54Mbps AirPort Card; IEEE 802.11g compliant
Four 800Mb/s FireWire2 ports (three on back panel;one on front panel; 15W total power) (4)
Four USB2.0 ports 12 Mbs-480 Mb/s each (three on back panel;one on front panel)
Graphics support
Nvidia Geforce4Ti 4200 AGP graphics card with 64MB of DDR SDRAM graphics ADC and DVi connector dual display support for extended desktop and video mirroring modes (standard across entire lineup)
Optional ATI RADEON R250 AGP graphics card with 128MB of DDR SDRAM and ADC,DVI, and S-video connectors; dual display support, support for digital and analog resolutions up to 2048 by 1536 pixels
Storage
Two external 3.5 bays with independent 133MB/s buses for up to 240GB of internal storage using hot-plug Apple Drive Modules, available in the following capacities:
60GB 7200-rpm Ultra ATA/133 with 8MB disk cache
120GB 7200-rpm Ultra ATA/133 with 8MB disk cache
One bay filled with 60GB 7200-rpm Apple Drive Module (standard configurations)
Support for reading SMART data from Apple Drive Modules for early failure notification
Two open internal 3.5 bays(for internal IDE harddrives)
Two external 5.25 bay one filled with tray-loading 40x20x40x CDR/RW drive with front-panel eject button
Optional Superdrive Dvd-R 4x,Dvd-rom 24x,CDR/RW 24x12x40x
Optional Ultra160 SCSI PCI card for connecting to external storage and backup devices.
Optional Ultra ATA 133 RAID card (supports RAID 0,1,01 )
Audio
Built-in speaker
Apple speaker minijack for connection to Apple Pro Speakers
Optional Apple Pro Speakers
Headphone/line out minijack
Support for external third-party FireWire and USB digital audio peripherals such as microphones, speakers, and MIDI devices
This is beyond anything the rumor sites have been talking about. If it's true, I'd say the 1 month wait was worth it.
from itsthebomb.com (credited to Spymac):
[Admin Edit: These are not claimed specs to this machine... instead these are specs posted a few weeks ago in an unrelated post by an unknown author... and are not related to this current rumor ]
Processor
Dual PowerPC G4 processors(1.2ghz,1.4ghz,1.6ghz)
Velocity Engine vector processing unit
Full 128-bit internal memory data paths
Powerful floating-point unit supporting single-cycle, double-precision calculations
Data stream prefetching operations supporting four simultaneous 32-bit data streams
512k on-chip L2 cache running at processor speed
2MB DDR SRAM L3 cache per processor
333MHz system frontside bus supporting over 2.7GB/s data throughput
Memory
512MB or 1024MB of 333MHz PC2700 DDR SDRAM with up to 5.4GB/s throughput (dual memory controllers 2.7 for each channel)
Four DIMM slots supporting up to 2GB of DDR SDRAM using the following:
128MB or 256MB DIMMs (64-bit wide, 128Mb technology)
512MB DIMMs (64-bit-wide, 256Mb technology)
I/O connections
AGP Pro 110watt universal slot supports graphics cards running at 8x,4x,2x
Six full-length 64-bit, 66MHz PCI slots supports 32-bit or 64-bit 3.3V PCI cards running at 33MHz respectively
One 10/100/1000BASE-T (Gigabit) RJ-45 Ethernet connectors, on logic board
One 56k v.92 voice/fax modem RJ-11 teleco connector,on logic board
Ready for wireless networking: Built-in antennas and card slot for optional 54Mbps AirPort Card; IEEE 802.11g compliant
Four 800Mb/s FireWire2 ports (three on back panel;one on front panel; 15W total power) (4)
Four USB2.0 ports 12 Mbs-480 Mb/s each (three on back panel;one on front panel)
Graphics support
Nvidia Geforce4Ti 4200 AGP graphics card with 64MB of DDR SDRAM graphics ADC and DVi connector dual display support for extended desktop and video mirroring modes (standard across entire lineup)
Optional ATI RADEON R250 AGP graphics card with 128MB of DDR SDRAM and ADC,DVI, and S-video connectors; dual display support, support for digital and analog resolutions up to 2048 by 1536 pixels
Storage
Two external 3.5 bays with independent 133MB/s buses for up to 240GB of internal storage using hot-plug Apple Drive Modules, available in the following capacities:
60GB 7200-rpm Ultra ATA/133 with 8MB disk cache
120GB 7200-rpm Ultra ATA/133 with 8MB disk cache
One bay filled with 60GB 7200-rpm Apple Drive Module (standard configurations)
Support for reading SMART data from Apple Drive Modules for early failure notification
Two open internal 3.5 bays(for internal IDE harddrives)
Two external 5.25 bay one filled with tray-loading 40x20x40x CDR/RW drive with front-panel eject button
Optional Superdrive Dvd-R 4x,Dvd-rom 24x,CDR/RW 24x12x40x
Optional Ultra160 SCSI PCI card for connecting to external storage and backup devices.
Optional Ultra ATA 133 RAID card (supports RAID 0,1,01 )
Audio
Built-in speaker
Apple speaker minijack for connection to Apple Pro Speakers
Optional Apple Pro Speakers
Headphone/line out minijack
Support for external third-party FireWire and USB digital audio peripherals such as microphones, speakers, and MIDI devices
What I'm wondering, and I think someone else already mentioned this :
The specs list mentions FW/USB ports on the front of the case. The supposed case pics have no ports on the front. What gives?
The specs list mentions FW/USB ports on the front of the case. The supposed case pics have no ports on the front. What gives?
Originally posted by Stike
BTW I found that pic in connection to that topic on Spymac. Would Apple go that far to incorporate a NV Chip onboard??
Maybe a new coprocessor for Quartz Extreme
Could it be that they are using technology from the n2 board to kick the pro line into high gear?
It would be nice if Jaguar could have it's own GPU.
Re: 1.6 ghz
Well, we don't exactly know if :
a) the speeds are accurate
b) when (if ever) they will release a tower like this
c)or the possibility that Apple may blow us all away with a tower like this.
Well, we don't exactly know if :
a) the speeds are accurate
b) when (if ever) they will release a tower like this
c)or the possibility that Apple may blow us all away with a tower like this.
any chance the fw/usb ports are behind one of the flipdown doors..aesthetically, it would be nicer...just a thought from someone who knows zilch about computer design.
wait wait wait.....before we go and set ourselves up for a huge disaster when the actual towers are released, we should look at past info and decide what is credible here and what is a pure pipe dream.
but it sounds good so far!
but it sounds good so far!
Originally posted by iH8Quark
wait wait wait.....before we go and set ourselves up for a huge disaster when the actual towers are released, we should look at past info and decide what is credible here and what is a pure pipe dream.
but it sounds good so far!
Well at least we have some substancial rumors to debate.
It's especially refreshing after reading all those "I hate Apple, .mac, the towers, etc. I'm going to Wintel" threads.
>"I hate Apple, .mac, the towers, etc. I'm going to Wintel"
let em, that's why they will do such a speed bump, to get back on track
though I'm dissapointed in apple about the lateness of their release. bed now, going, before anyone else posts...
agggg stop posting, now I have to read more
let em, that's why they will do such a speed bump, to get back on track
though I'm dissapointed in apple about the lateness of their release. bed now, going, before anyone else posts...
agggg stop posting, now I have to read more
I'm realizing now that the specs on itsthebomb.com don't match up with the pics on macbidoulle. I'm inclined to believe the picts more than the specs list.
Looking at the pics, there are only 4 PCI slots, not 6 as in the specs list.
The pdf posted by AppleP58 lists 2 sets of 2 HD bays. This corroborates what the specs list says about storage: 2 hot-plug drive modules (external?) and 2 additional bays. This would rock.
Also both sources report two 5.25" bays which everyone is now expecting.
Looking at the pics, there are only 4 PCI slots, not 6 as in the specs list.
The pdf posted by AppleP58 lists 2 sets of 2 HD bays. This corroborates what the specs list says about storage: 2 hot-plug drive modules (external?) and 2 additional bays. This would rock.
Also both sources report two 5.25" bays which everyone is now expecting.
Just to clear this up - I got the specs from a post here - I make no claims for their authenticity; for all I know, they could be completely made up. For anyone who hasn't seen them yet, pictures of:
the external casing
the innards
the motherboard
a diagram of the casing
I have mirrored them here: http://www.itsthebomb.com/gallery/powermacs_july_2002/
And the specs can be found here: http://www.itsthebomb.com/story.php?storyid=2002/7/21/8
the external casing
the innards
the motherboard
a diagram of the casing
I have mirrored them here: http://www.itsthebomb.com/gallery/powermacs_july_2002/
And the specs can be found here: http://www.itsthebomb.com/story.php?storyid=2002/7/21/8
I don't think the specs are accurate at all. It seems to have too many discrepancies with the pics, no front FW/USB ports etc.
why would they do that on a desktop? that's a server config. i've gotta call horse-puckey on that one.
Besides, that would make 4 external bay. Which means the tower would have to look similar in config to the one posted on page 1 of this thread.
Re: Re: Re: Now that!
This is crap. DDR is Deutsche Demokratische Republik which is German for German Democratic Republic (GDR), the former east German state. Google doesn't read too much of the french text's context, so it's just guessing wrong on that one.
On the other hand, I'd just LOVE your interpretation to be true.
Originally posted by Stike
Hemingray Braveheart-Style: They can´t take our freedom! (to download)
This is crap. DDR is Deutsche Demokratische Republik which is German for German Democratic Republic (GDR), the former east German state. Google doesn't read too much of the french text's context, so it's just guessing wrong on that one.
On the other hand, I'd just LOVE your interpretation to be true.