Pro Mac Photo Summary

[iH8Quark]

okay, i opened the PDF in illustrator, and found that there is, indeed, a white box covering up the main headline text.

I removed the white box, picture follows.

Of particular note is that the fonts in this document are Garamond condensed (as opposed to Apple Garamond), and Arial (as opposed to Helvetica). Also, they were originally encoded on a Windows machine. Do you think Apple designs Macs on Windows machines? Seems fishy, but that's just me.

 

[iH8Quark]

oops...actually, am i allowed to post that itsy-bitsy piece?

It's just text. Are there laws against posting text?

 

[arn]

The PDF is not an Apple document.

The PDF was created by someone who had presumably seen the case.

arn

 

[job]

wtf is turbine cooling?

is apple planning on achieving lift with this thing?

bah that pdf is probably just a fake.

 

[arn]

Notice that this enclosure closely matches the specs from the Prototype enclosures rumored a couple of weeks ago

https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/07/20020707124222.shtml

According to a source, there are currently up to six (6) enclosures undergoing internal testing. Features vary and it's unknown which features may make it to the final hardware... but some features include: white speaker, front mounted headphone jack, 4x512MB RAM, new motherboard, bays for two optical drives.

 

[job]

I was wondering about the pdf though. It said 4096MB Ram. A GB DIMM*4? Seems a bit high......

 

[pianojoe]

Originally posted by G4scott


Oh, and another question (I wasn't very good in conversions)- would 7kg be more plausible for the weight of the heat sink? Aluminum is a rather light material, and I can't imagine a heat sink weighing 7 pounds... they make bike frames from aluminum that weigh less than that...

I just wanted to point out that 7 pounds is less than 7kg. About 50%.

 

[Stike]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Now that!

Originally posted by pianojoe


This is crap. DDR is Deutsche Demokratische Republik which is German for German Democratic Republic (GDR), the former east German state. Google doesn't read too much of the french text's context, so it's just guessing wrong on that one.

On the other hand, I'd just LOVE your interpretation to be true.

Oh, another Mannheimer here
Ok, you´re right, but my interpretation may become reality.. say... one year?

 

[Scottgfx]

Re: Yet another pic!

Originally posted by Stike
And here we have another pic of some nVidia Chip - is it a true pic of the Apple Mobo or just another PC mobo?

The photo in your post is of an Athlon based nForce MB. Note the location of the memory, it's not in parallel with the PCI slots. I doubt that Apple would go back to ZIF sockets. Also note that the AGP and co-located PCI are on the wrong side. The new systems appear to have reversed everything.

Finally, I don't thing Apple would EVER use those funky yellow connectors.

I did notice the chip on the Apple board is at an angle like the nForce northbridge. I doubt that a chip's angle has much to do with what it's for or what the bus technology is. I do hope Apple has Hypertransport though.

My guess is that the Apple system photos were taken somewhere on the production line. It doesn't have it's battery installed yet! Where do you suppose that is done? I'm guessing, at burn-in time?

(edit: I just figured out that the angled chip on the Apple system photo is the G4 processor card. I couldn't tell at first that it was above the MB. I still am curious as to what that card in the fourth PCI slot is!)

 

[job]

Originally posted by arn
According to a source, there are currently up to six (6) enclosures undergoing internal testing. Features vary and it's unknown which features may make it to the final hardware... but some features include: white speaker, front mounted headphone jack, 4x512MB RAM, new motherboard, bays for two optical drives.

I wonder if what we are seeing here is just a hash of all the tower rumors.

The case pics might be from one prototype, the specs (if they are legit) from another, etc.

We could be looking at different prototypes, thinking they are the same one.

 

[iH8Quark]

My summary

I'm willing to bet the following:

The case is real. But we won't see it in it's present (pictured) incarnation. This is a test box. The insides are the real deal, but the box is a tester. The drive bays are metal because Apple has no drive bay setup / config in their parts drawer that matches this setup. My guess is that the entire case will be brushed metal. This thing is...sadly...ugh-lee.

The PDF is a fake. It was drawn by an amateur who saw the case pictures, and the PDF was made after the fact. Reasons: Windows file format and fonts, and a ripoff version of Apple Garamond. Oh, and another thing, NOBODY ON EARTH uses Corel Draw professionally. Other things make me wonder. 7Lb heat sync and vertical drives??? Don't think so. Also, why would the case include support or SCSI? Not even the Xserve uses SCSI. (I know, Ultra 160 for HD editing, but then why have the drives vertical?).

My best guess is that the image posted on page 1 of this thread is closer to what we'll see than the box in question.

 

[arn]

Originally posted by hitman

The case pics might be from one prototype, the specs (if they are legit) from another, etc.

specs are NOT legit.

arn

 

[arn]

Re: My summary

Originally posted by iH8Quark

The PDF is a fake. It was drawn by an amateur who saw the case pictures, and the PDF was made after the fact.

No one ever claimed the PDF was an official Apple Document.

The PDF was created from someone who had presumably seen the enclosure pictured. He admitted that he made it.

arn

 

[job]

ok specs are crap.

the pdf seems kind of flaky. Maybe the guy did see the tower, but note the "4096MB ram." I dunno about anyone else here but that seems like too large of an increase.

 

[Scottgfx]

Re: My summary

Originally posted by iH8Quark
I'm willing to bet the following:

Other things make me wonder. 7Lb heat sync and vertical drives??? Don't think so. Also, why would the case include support or SCSI? Not even the Xserve uses SCSI. (I know, Ultra 160 for HD editing, but then why have the drives vertical?).

I've seen some PC systems (in my case a Compaq. no pun intended) that have the drives mounted vertically. My guess is that it would allow more convection airflow across the drives. In the current G4, you have the drives stacked horizontal, one on top of the other. I would imagine that there is a bit of heat build-up on the lower drive.

 

[michaelyoung]

Apple leaked this?

Am I too much of a conspiracy theorist?

I think Apple leaked the photots to get the mac fanatics off the the whole .Mac fiasco.


Think about it. If they leak the photos it gets all of us excited and talking about something other than .mac.

After the pics are out they can do the usual letters to make it look legit and to add to the intrigue.


Hey, you think it is implausible?

 

[mmmdreg]

Re: My summary

Originally posted by iH8Quark
I'm willing to bet the following:

The case is real. But we won't see it in it's present (pictured) incarnation. This is a test box. The insides are the real deal, but the box is a tester. The drive bays are metal because Apple has no drive bay setup / config in their parts drawer that matches this setup. My guess is that the entire case will be brushed metal. This thing is...sadly...ugh-lee.

You are quite possibly correct there...i doubt they would release something like that so what you're saying could be right...instead of plain brushed metal, they might follow the iPod and do a two-tone thing where half of it is white plastic and the rest some metal...Seeing as this new case is being released now with the new processors, could that mean that the G5 is even further away than we first thought?

 

[s10]

what if...

...Apple leaked these images (real) to make people stop whining and complaining?

A very brief preview, during th weekend, on a French website, taken down quickly.

Personally, I'm 100% sure this is the new Tower. The specs are very nice but unrealistic.

 

[strange_habits]

Re: Re: Now that!

Originally posted by Hemingray


Damn that was fast... looks like I DLed the pics just in time! Apple Legal, you can take down the sources, but you can't take down what's on my hard drive.

And as for the whole DDR thing, I was wondering what the hell GDR was...

Well, I guess that GDR means the former "German Democratic Republic" (still remember this?) which is the translation of DDR (Deutsche Demokratische Republik).

Agree?

 

[AmbitiousLemon]

i thought some quotes from the original threa might clear some things up. [btw, the poster would have said more if groovemaster had not chased him off]

DAMN the internet moves fast! I just made that PDF in CorelDRAW last night! and e-mailed it to macrumors.com webmaster but after getting no reply I posted it on the boards earlier; THAT WAS FRIGGIN FAST!

BTW the french site has very old pics of what's called a DVT or EVT model, many components aren't seen, like the massive heatsink; and teh MPU die is not at a 45 degree like that in the final product; the boards are blue like th XServe's...

You'll know I'm right when you see a final product with something only very recently changed... The green AGP card retainer clip which slides over the AGP slot; Has been replaced by a single piece brown connector with the clip built into it...

 

[peterjhill]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Power Mac Photos - Mirror

Originally posted by iH8Quark


FireWire 2 is supposed to be backwards compatible. BUT the connectors do look different. Perhaps the backwards compatibility simply means you can run FW1 and 2 off the same chipset on the motherboard, with different connectors coming out of the machine.

maybe? pure speculation.

And because it is a bus architecture, if you mix fw1 and fw2 devices on the same chain, you are most likely going to make the whole thing operate at fw1 speeds, ala SCSI.

 

[macmunch]

I think the Pics are real

but not the pdf !

4096 MB SD RAM no ....


DDR are is now less expensice than SD

and SD is also too slow

I think the pdf is simply a fake

 

[peterjhill]

Originally posted by iH8Quark


why would they do that on a desktop? that's a server config. i've gotta call horse-puckey on that one.

Besides, that would make 4 external bay. Which means the tower would have to look similar in config to the one posted on page 1 of this thread.

Pros for the hotswap bays:
If they just have them and don't populate them, use internal drives for shipping units, then all the costs would go to people who want to use them

It would be cool to have if you're mac is critical to your making a living. You could have two mirrored disks in a raid, then if one fails, you could swap out the bad one and keep working



Cons:
That is alot of space inside the machine to use for something that less than, say, 20% of the buyers will want to use.

 

[peterjhill]

Originally posted by hitman
ok specs are crap.

the pdf seems kind of flaky. Maybe the guy did see the tower, but note the "4096MB ram." I dunno about anyone else here but that seems like too large of an increase.

Everyone wants four ram slots, and I don't think people doubt that Apple might do it. It is perfectly reasonable that they support up to 1 GB chips in each slot. They are already out there. Some people might want to put one into their machine, so why not. So therefore, you end up with 4GB of ram.

I think it is possible. Plus, Steve would harp on the fact that it supported that much.

<offtopic>
That reminds me of how many times Steve said, "_____ is the greatest ______" during the keynote. "iCal is the greatest calendar software" "iTunes is the greatest MP3 player" If I can't get iCal to sync with my work calendar, it will not be that great. (Corporate Time). <rant> And Sherlock3, damn, at least give the guy who developed Watson some free hardware or something. Better yet, how about a free .mac account for life ;-) </rant></offtopic>

 

[Cappy]

Originally posted by hitman
I was wondering about the pdf though. It said 4096MB Ram. A GB DIMM*4? Seems a bit high......

What world do you live in?

Many of the x86 boards currently support 3 GB and if you factor in the markets where Apple wants to go(ie video) then plenty of ram will be important. Back in '95 my 7500/100 shipped with 16 MB of ram but was expandable to 1 GB. That would have been considered more outragious than this as far as being "high". I'd say 4 GB is very realistic.

Now if they could just get those ibooks to hold more than 640MB's. <<sigh>>