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While you may end up being correct, you can't know any of this. You come off sounding more like you bought an iPhone 6 and the thought of the 6+ having better specs angers you.

If I wanted to buy a 6plus, I would ... you can make of that whatever you want.
The 6plus will be the iPad3 of iPad's. It will be superseded by the next model.
 
And he does it again

We can fill this thread the whole day. Just to be clear:

1) The 6 AND the 6plus will either both have 1GB or 2GB RAM. They will not use different SoC's.

2) The 6plus needs 2,47 more memory BANDWIDTH to fill the screen.

3) The 6plus has to downscale the final image to 1920x1080p after it has drawn it on a bigger texture. This is done on the GPU but costs bandwidth again.

Search the link in the forums about downscaling and "paintcode".
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This is all I said. The price difference is only $100. If you really believe I'm continuing this because I couldn't buy a 6plus, you are just ignorant.

I'm continuing this discussion because all three points above are true.
I will repost this as often as you wish
 
It has not ... and it can't ...

And they explicitly mentioned that only the display and the camera is different.
(Besides the obviously larger battery.)

The 6plus uses the same SoC, it will have the same clock rate and the same amount of RAM.

In practice it'll operate closer to its limits with regards to animation and graphics.
It'll push 2,47 times more pixels. That is no problem for the GPU, but the memory bandwidth will be used solely for that ...

And memory bandwidth is key.

So. The 6plus is a compromise that is actually lower specced than the 6.
Just like the iPads and iPhones had the same SoC but had different clock rate...and same ram....lmao....
 
We can fill this thread the whole day. Just to be clear:

1) The 6 AND the 6plus will either both have 1GB or 2GB RAM. They will not use different SoC's.

2) The 6plus needs 2,47 more memory BANDWIDTH to fill the screen.

3) The 6plus has to downscale the final image to 1920x1080p after it has drawn it on a bigger texture. This is done on the GPU but costs bandwidth again.

Search the link in the forums about downscaling and "paintcode".
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This is all I said. The price difference is only $100. If you really believe I'm continuing this because I couldn't buy a 6plus, you are just ignorant.

I'm continuing this discussion because all three points above are true.
I will repost this as often as you wish

If you're going to call people ignorant, you need to look in the mirrior, What you're posting is a whole lot of speculation. I'll repeat what I said, you may end up being correct, but you can't possibly know any of this for sure. The things you are saying "can't happen" actually can and again, you sound like someone who's trying to "will" the phones to have the same specs so you don't end up with buyers remorse. You seem like an intelligent person, so i'm sure you recognize this as well, but it would be silly to admit it after the nature of your posts in this thread.
 
Yeah, because 1920x1080 is such an odd resolution, there's no way Apple engineers could have possibly figured out how to make it work well....
 
Apple could have put out these same phones with monster specs, but why when they can release the same phone in 3 years with those specs and sell them as new
 
We can fill this thread the whole day. Just to be clear:

1) The 6 AND the 6plus will either both have 1GB or 2GB RAM. They will not use different SoC's.

2) The 6plus needs 2,47 more memory BANDWIDTH to fill the screen.

3) The 6plus has to downscale the final image to 1920x1080p after it has drawn it on a bigger texture. This is done on the GPU but costs bandwidth again.

Search the link in the forums about downscaling and "paintcode".
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This is all I said. The price difference is only $100. If you really believe I'm continuing this because I couldn't buy a 6plus, you are just ignorant.

I'm continuing this discussion because all three points above are true.
I will repost this as often as you wish

Someone sounds angry they couldn't get the 6+ and had to settle with the 6.
 
Do we know when the embargo will be lifted and the reviews will drop? This thread is pure speculation until then. Hopefully sooner then later so we can put this to rest.
 
Do we know when the embargo will be lifted and the reviews will drop? This thread is pure speculation until then. Hopefully sooner then later so we can put this to rest.

Everything on this site is pure speculation. This multi threads for the same thing drives me nuts at launch time.

IMHO, I wanted the 5.5" from day one of hearing it will be out. After the keynote stating it basically has the same specs made me drop my choice for the same reasons the other gentleman pointed out above.
I sure hope it will be overclocked and more ram over the 6, because if not, I cannot see how it will drive a bigger screen and "better" graphics than the smaller without some other hardware bump in it. It just wouldnt make sense.

I think the comments need to stop of people being jealous. If anyone here can afford an +/- $800 phone, they sure can spring the extra $100 if they really wanted to.
I hope the 5.5" users aren't going to start being more snobby than the typical Iphone user is already stereo typed to be as is. It is starting to show this may be the case though.
 
GSMArena is guessing.

That macrumors thread has its own share of problems. And here is my take on it (copy and pasted below):

I'm not convinced that the image shown even indicates that the iPhone 6 will have 1GB of RAM.


From what I see on the image, this is what is printed:
H9CKNNN_KTMR_R

Now, let's compare this against the below:
http://www.skhynix.com/products/mob...nfo.ramKind=33&info.eol=NOT&posMap=MobileDDR3

1) H9CCNNN4GTMLAR (4Gb = 512MB)
2) H9CCNNN8JTALAR (8Gb = 1GB)
3) H9CCNNN8KTALBR (8Gb = 1GB)
4) H9CKNNN8GTMPLR (8Gb = 1GB)
5) H9CCNNNBLTALAR (16Gb = 2GB)
6) H9CCNNNBPTALBR (16Gb = 2GB)
7) H9CKNNNBJTMPLR (16Gb = 2GB)
8) H9CKNNNBKTMRPR (16Gb = 2GB)
9) H9CKNNNBKTMTDR (16Gb = 2GB)
10) H9CKNNNBPTATDR (16Gb = 2GB)
11) H9CKNNNDATMRPR (24Gb = 3GB)
12) H9CKNNNDATMTDR (24Gb = 3GB)

Row's 1-3 and 5-6 can be eliminated since they start as "H9CCNNN..." rather than the 'H9CKNNN...' we are looking for.

So far this leaves the following:

4) H9CKNNN8GTMPLR (8Gb = 1GB)
7) H9CKNNNBJTMPLR (16Gb = 2GB)
8) H9CKNNNBKTMRPR (16Gb = 2GB)
9) H9CKNNNBKTMTDR (16Gb = 2GB)
10) H9CKNNNBPTATDR (16Gb = 2GB)
11) H9CKNNNDATMRPR (24Gb = 3GB)
12) H9CKNNNDATMTDR (24Gb = 3GB)

After the 1st letter in question (8 or is it a B?), the sequence continues with what looks to be "KTM", so let's look at what that leaves us: Lines 7, and 10-12 can be removed as well, so we now have this left:

4) H9CKNNN8GTMPLR (8Gb = 1GB)
8) H9CKNNNBKTMRPR (16Gb = 2GB)
9) H9CKNNNBKTMTDR (16Gb = 2GB)

Looking at the remaining three digits, it looks like R_R (looks like a 'W' in between, but that doesn't match up with anything above), so looking at what we are left with, we just have:

8) H9CKNNNBKTMRPR (16Gb = 2GB)

The above leads me to believe that the iPhone 6 will indeed have 2GB of RAM; and continues the "tradition" of doubling/increasing RAM every form factor change. I don't know why it looks like a 'W' in the pictures, as opposed to a 'P' above, but this is what I have so far.

The above makes sense to me, but let me know if someone sees anything I may have done wrong.

The thing is, if there is anything consistent with those part numbers, it is that an "8" means 1GB, "B" means 2GB, and "D" means 3GB.

Ya, the "KTM" part does match up better with what you listed. No argument there. But the "W" in the picture doesn't match any part number. And that still clearly looks like an "8". And it wouldn't be unheard of for companies to supply Apple with a specific component with its own custom part number that they don't use for any other manufacturers. This company can still keep their own basic naming convention for their part numbers (i.e. 8 = 1GB, B = 2GB) and still have other letters vary slightly from what they list on their website. That would fall in line with them having a different part number for something they supply just to Apple.

I want 2GB RAM as much as the next guy, but it doesn't look like it will have it.
 
Someone sounds angry they couldn't get the 6+ and had to settle with the 6.

What are you even talking about? He has a point. The RAM is part of the SOC for iPhones, so with them both having the exact same A8, it's virtually impossible the hardware varying between the two devices.

Note that the iPad Air and iPhone 5S even share both the A7 and due to RAM being part of the SOC ("A7"), they both have 1GB of RAM.

The only place Apple could differ is the clockrate, which, I sure hope they do, in order to provide extra bandwidth for the more pixels required to drive the 1080P display.

I would hope we get a last minute surprise and see 2GB on the A8, as I'd expect there to be 2GB on the new iPads in October, but I think we'll still see only 1GB for both the 6, 6+, iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini Retina 2
 
It needs more ram because of the resolution. The iPhone 6 will outperform the plus across the board in real world use as they both use the same processor. I am wagering that the plus will be plagued with stutters and slowdowns to some extent which won't be present in the 4.7.

Why do people think this? Considering the iPad Air has a much larger screen with larger resolution than the iPhone 6+ and it's powered by a last gen chip and doesn't suffer from stutters.
 
Why do people think this? Considering the iPad Air has a much larger screen with larger resolution than the iPhone 6+ and it's powered by a last gen chip and doesn't suffer from stutters.

It does suffer from stutters. Just try opening Siri. And the Air wasn't doing any extra downscaling.
 
Why do people think this? Considering the iPad Air has a much larger screen with larger resolution than the iPhone 6+ and it's powered by a last gen chip and doesn't suffer from stutters.

It does suffer from stutters. Try rotating screen when keyboard is on, or rotating screen in the App Store app. Activating Siri (the blurring animation) also stutters etc.
 
As much as I'd love to dampen the unbridled passions of iPhone 6+ owners, the performance between the 6 and 6+ will likely be identical. I am fully convinced from the leaked Geekbench scores that BOTH phones are using 1 GB of RAM, and yes, the whole downscaling to a still higher resolution will introduce some overhead, but the A8 is going to be a screamer, everyone. Mobile SoCs are getting darned fast, and both phones will be butter smooth. Maybe the 6+ will need to refresh an app a few more times, but any significant performance differences can be ironed out with software updates.
 
No way. I am not carrying that big honker with me all day.

You enjoy!

This exactly! That phone is massive! I want something that will fit comfortably in my pocket. And for some reason, I'm not sure why, the plus just doesn't look as nice as the standard 6.
 
The only given for the 6+ is that it's got the largest bezels and least viewable screen for any comparable sized phablet out there.
 
Part of a SOC? if iphone 6 has 1gb the iphone 6+ must also have it?

Your logic is flawed. You forget that we talk about Apple here. Dont question your god!:apple:
 
Are you sure about that?

YouTube: video

This confuses me because I tried to duplicate the same thing he did in this video and it is very smooth. I am running ios 7 so this sounds more like an iOS 8 issue than a hardware/RAM issue to me.
 
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