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How many existing Americans have those skills? Guess Trump will have to up the green card count.
there was plenty of manufacturing here before things went to China............
now if you are going to imply all Americans are good for is working at McDonalds then that is on you.
 
lol that stopped a LONG time ago, look at DJI and tell me who they ripped off, then tell me even one U.S brand that can even touch them. Sounds like you're stuck in 2001, Apple's strength is in their software/hardware synergy, you can't rip that off even if you tried. Making a kids toy that looks like the iPhone isn't anything Apple is worried about.

Stopped long ago? ROTFLMAO!!!!! :p IP ripoff is still alive and well by hook, crook, or contract. You honestly think that China joined the WTO and stopped? Wow :rolleyes:
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America doesn't even make the top 25 for educated countries around the world, and they proved that with electing their "president." They will absolutely vote for him again

Please :rolleyes:

How about coming up with a real opposing candidate?
Between both parties, the top three candidates are three old white guys.
One in bed with the Chinese, one ready to make the US into a Socialist Society, and the last trying to makeover the US via reality tv.
 
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The entire point of the tariff is to make the product more expensive in the US. This is not an unintended side-effect, but the primary effect.

When iPhone is made in China and sold in the US, the money is siphoned from the US economy and then used to bolster the Chinese economy. Every dollar spent in the local economy is respent over and over. The factory pays the worker, the worker buys something with the money. The store they shop at pays their workers who then shop. And every single step is taxed. Every dollar taken out of this cycle costs the economy many dollars *and* benefits the other economy by many dollars.

This tariff is explicitly to discourage people from spending money in ways that will transfer it from the US economy to China and discourage US companies from transferring money to China. The specific issues Trump has with China are related to the Made in China 2025 plan, which actually is a complete disaster for the US. China is acting strongly against the US at the moment and they're doing it with America's own money.

TL;DR No matter how much you hate Trump as a human being and hate his policies, this tariff is entirely consistent with MAGA, the mandate for which he was elected, it is in America's interest, and working as intended. If you think the retail price of an iPhone in the US is the most pressing issue facing the country today, you will get to make your voice heard at the polls next year.
 
Sounds like someone loves being AppleTaxed to death.
No thanks. My money will go elsewhere.

Lol, as you waddle around the macrumors forum. Nah, you'll be back.
I didn’t vote for trump, I’m just telling you he’s going to win. I’m a minority, only whites can be racist according to libs. Bernie should have won the primary last time. They paid him off.

We are the racists, but when a Democrat is literally pictured in a KKK outfit/black face (Racist Ralph Northam) he is coddled and protected. It's asinine.
 
Polite question: Have you been to Shenzhen in recent years? They (and whole of china) are innovating. Faster (and better in many cases) than anyone else on the earth. Pumping huge amount of cash in research and tech development. Most of the leading US professors of fundamental physics, optics, materials science are originally Chinese... lol. Check leading Science/Nature publications.
The arrogance of the west will be the reason for its demise.

This comment is rich, considering the West is Germany’s bodyguard.
 
Protectionist trade wars played a big part in causing the Great Depression of the 1930's. Maybe nobody will be buying much of anything if this goes on. Many people are already hanging onto phones for longer. That will likely extend quickly, with the smartphone market one of the most vulnerable to stagnation.
 
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Stopped long ago? ROTFLMAO!!!!! :p IP ripoff is still alive and well by hook, crook, or contract. You honestly think that China joined the WTO and stopped? Wow :rolleyes:
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Please :rolleyes:

How about coming up with a real opposing candidate?
Between both parties, the top three candidates are three old white guys.
One in bed with the Chinese, one ready to make the US into a Socialist Society, and the last trying to makeover the US via reality tv.
Ha, no one is trying to make America into a "socialist society." Bring in more of the good parts of socialism perhaps, sure. You know, basic things that every other developed country on earth has: universal healthcare, reinforced infrastructure, paid maternity leave that's longer than a god damn month, etc. There's only one party fighting for all that here in the States... And the other party just blows smoke out their ass :rolleyes:
 
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Ha, no one is trying to make America into a "socialist society." Bring in more of the good parts of socialism perhaps, sure. You know, basic things that every other developed country on earth has: universal healthcare, reinforced infrastructure, paid maternity leave that's longer than a god damn month, etc. There's only one party fighting for all that here in the States... And the other party just blows smoke out their ass :rolleyes:

Opinions vary. If you really think small country models will work well here ...

Take a hard look at the stated platform (what there is of it) for the top candidates in the Democratic Party. Biden is more old school Democrat and seriously out of step with the new Democratic evolution. Sanders is pretty much Socialism writ large.

As for one party fighting and the other ... You really are reading into things if you believe that is the case. Neither party is doing much. The extreme partisanship that exists makes it difficult at best.

Then again, I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. ;)
 
you are contradicting yourself.
we pay a very hefty price for the phone already, I am betting apple will pass the buck to the consumers anyways and hell they will probably add to it and make as much as possible blaming it on tariffs
I'm not contradicting anything. I gave a reason why phones wouldn't be built here, which is true. Their margins would go down and they don't want that, so they don't build them here. And I also said I'm not bothered that the phones are built in foreign countries, because I don't care. I'm not one of these overly patriotic people that forget all sense of business because of the pattern on our particular piece of cloth.
 
Opinions vary. If you really think small country models will work well here ...

Take a hard look at the stated platform (what there is of it) for the top candidates in the Democratic Party. Biden is more old school Democrat and seriously out of step with the new Democratic evolution. Sanders is pretty much Socialism writ large.

As for one party fighting and the other ... You really are reading into things if you believe that is the case. Neither party is doing much. The extreme partisanship that exists makes it difficult at best.

Then again, I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. ;)
Yeah I also would not label myself one or the other. I guess when it comes to issues though I mostly lean left because that side tends to be the only one offering any measurable progress on said issues.

That being said, the left can really drive me up a wall sometimes with their BS haha
 
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Lol, why you so obsessed with us? oh right, because we rule the world. Bye.
You're obsessed on using the word "obsessed". Anyway the delusion on thinking that you rule the world says a lot about you.
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I’ve never heard of a European country going to war to liberate or on behalf of Americans. So, there’s that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Because Europeans are smarter than that. Thinking about having wars to let yourself feel better, actually says a lot about the insecurity you fellows have to deal with.
 
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You're obsessed on using the word "obsessed". Anyway the delusion on thinking that you rule the world says a lot about you.
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Because Europeans are smarter than that. Thinking about having wars to let yourself feel better, actually says a lot about the insecurity you fellows have to deal with.

Figures you can't see that I am trolling you. Im bored of this conversation. Bye.
 
You're obsessed on using the word "obsessed". Anyway the delusion on thinking that you rule the world says a lot about you.
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Because Europeans are smarter than that. Thinking about having wars to let yourself feel better, actually says a lot about the insecurity you fellows have to deal with.

America: Europe’s Bodyguard. Now Pass the Tea.
 
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