Luckily for you Apple still sells the iPhone 13 mini. Grab one ASAP if you want it new.
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Prosser: iPhone SE 4 to Use iPhone XR's Design
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I have an 11 and have been very happy with it. Will probably end up getting the new SE if this rumor turns out to be true. I don't really use my phone enough to justify getting one of the more expensive models.
No, no, no, no, no.
always has been as simple as can be.
Old, outdated design with all main components at least one generation behind. Put in the latest SoC and a few conservative upgrades to the internals. Voila. $429!
Cannot be a new mini with OLED because then it competes with mid tier iPhone.
Cannot be mini with LCD because then Apple has to spend r&d for a new device.
It’s Xr with whatever is going to be the latest SoC when it drops.
SE formula has never changed and never will.
Show me an SE that *didn't* recycle a previous design?
I’d actually buy one as a 14p user if it used the 12/13 mini design. Guess we’ll have to give it another generation to get to that…
Wonder why MacRumors gives him so much air time and soft pedals his lack of credibility.
Quite possible, although the 13 mini probably needs to be discontinued first. What they have been doing is taking a discontinued phone and resurrecting it with updates internals. Hopefully the 13 mini sales improve as it drops in price.
They need content and there are three pages of comments so far.
The SE is always a supply chain based model. They already have the tooling and factories set up to pump out this form factor.
For the *budget* iPhone…why would anyone reasonably expect Apple to dump excess capital costs into complete retooling?
Are you actually believe what you just wrote? Or are you just being sarcastic to make a point?
Maybe not! They could put in the power button like the iPad… we’ll see.
It's just an image of an iPhone XR, why did he put his watermark over it? Lol.
Yup. Price will definitely go up. It will not be a "cheap" mid-range smartphone.
Indeed.
I think maybe you saw it, but I posted in another thread about Apple’s stewardship efforts, and the recycling of the design (and thus manufacturing) could be greatly contributing to their goals, and not just for sales.
as an XR user, I'm satisfied by this phone. If SE is using this design, it will be a very practical low-budget phone.
“Practical” is subjective, since the XR is gigantic (same 6.1” screen as 14, but body makes it bigger).
But, “practical” in the sense of having large screen, full iOS experience not scaled, pretty great camera with updated software processing (se2022 is amazing), more storage hopefully starting at 128gb.
Yeah, seems like a practical upgrade.
Though, I’m lighting a prayer candle and pouring one out for the small phone era 😩
Your grandma, your teen daughter, and your brothers 60-year-old dad, non of whom are following Apple product news, have to look at the 2023 iPhone lineup and instantly recognize which are the newer, more valuable devices and which ones are the older and/or lower value.
A 2023 or 2024 lineup with an SE 4 that’s 1/1 just a new 12/13 mini with the latest SoC for $429-$499 would destroy Apple’s value ladder in an instant.
SE in 12/13 or 12/13 mini body can only happen post 2023 September iPhone event when the design of mid tier and Pro iPhones graduates to something new.
But if SE 4 happens in Q1-Q2 of 2023 then there’s next to no chance of an SE 5 until Q1-Q2 2024 or 2025.
These launch dates and product strategies are not subject to change.
A 2023 or 2024 lineup with an SE 4 that’s 1/1 just a new 12/13 mini with the latest SoC for $429-$499 would destroy Apple’s value ladder in an instant.
SE in 12/13 or 12/13 mini body can only happen post 2023 September iPhone event when the design of mid tier and Pro iPhones graduates to something new.
But if SE 4 happens in Q1-Q2 of 2023 then there’s next to no chance of an SE 5 until Q1-Q2 2024 or 2025.
These launch dates and product strategies are not subject to change.
The all-in-one Mac kept a very similar design for a long time. I don’t mind it for entry-level products like the Color Classic, iPhone SE, etc.
