The current iPhone SE (3rd gen) has 5G support. I don't think Apple would remove that in the next one.
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Prosser: iPhone SE 4 to Use iPhone XR's Design
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Will be good to see iPhone SE take the current/modern iPhone design.
An iPhone mini with a single camera, Touch ID in power button, USB-C and no Face ID would be an ideal entry level phone. Reuse the rest of the 13 mini internals.
The same screens with a smaller cutout could be used, bringing the dynamic island to the SE. A narrower island would mean existing Live Activities would not need recoding.
This cripples it enough to not cannibalise the iPhone 14/15 but serves as a great introduction to the iPhone and for teenagers.
It really would need a price cut, the existing SE doesn't really attract people to the platform.
The same screens with a smaller cutout could be used, bringing the dynamic island to the SE. A narrower island would mean existing Live Activities would not need recoding.
This cripples it enough to not cannibalise the iPhone 14/15 but serves as a great introduction to the iPhone and for teenagers.
It really would need a price cut, the existing SE doesn't really attract people to the platform.
How about an iPhone SE reusing the form factor of the Apple Newton? That should be 'budget' enough, right?
People who buy the SE just want a phone and like Apple, they don't care if the design is dated as long as it works.
When do you think the new XR form factor will be released? Spring 2023? Looking to replace my iPhone 7 some time next year. Was planning to get a used 12 or 13, but a new SE in a similar form factor might be a better option at the same price point.
Our worst nightmare comes maybe true. Let's see ...the "New XR" ...with its draconian ugly fugly outdated 6.1 LCD 326ppi screen in 2023. Price point? I wouldn't pay more dollars than the ppi on its screen. Apple ...they will have the audacity to position it as a huge screen upgrade and justify that as the reason to markup the price to go with it.
A mini with those things means Apple would have to spend money to redesign the chassis and retool the manufacturing line. All that for the cheapest iPhone? Never gonna happen. The current Apple is all about profit and cutting cost, so entry level models will simply get old designs and existing chassis.
Consider that Apple didn't even bother changing any parts of the 2020/2022 SE from the iPhone 8 other than the SoC.
I’m probably replacing my sister-in-law’s XR with this. She’s prone to migraines so I was worried about getting an OLED phone for her and putting her through what I’ve gone through with finding an OLED iPhone I can use without getting migraines.
I’ve considered iPhone 11 for her, as I really love mine, but with 5G now taking over finally, I’m glad I waited. I’ll want this to last her as long as possible. Also the display does scale things well for older eyes and she is in her 60’s, so I think this is going to be a great option for her.
I know the XR has stood up well in the hands of middle schoolers and high schoolers (in a sturdy case with a screen protector) so I’m glad it’s going to be an updated option for parents for a little longer.
My mom still uses one. She wants a new phone but she can't seem to justify it to herself because it still works well.
The point is it's a re-used design. Apple is still producing iPhone 13 minis so they don't have to do much. They're doing the same thing with this rumor. Re-working internals and revamping production that might have slowed down.
As long as it still has Touch and a bigger screen than SE, I'll take a look
Yeah but which is better? 326ppi at 4.7 or 326ppi at 6.1? 6.1 is stretching boundaries IMO. Some users may only be looking for a budget phone with decent screen size for general usage so the bigger screen upgrade would be enough perhaps with the usual incremental camera upgrades. Let's see how far Apple push the price up.
I can hardly imagine them keeping it the same price as the current SE3.
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Why would the same ppi be worse because the screen is bigger? The XR/11 display look nice aside from bigger bezels than OLED.
Honestly usually only Android fans complain about the resolution on those. Anyone who's used one knows it looks great.
Huh? It's the same PPI regardless of size, so to your eyes, it the same quality. The pixels don't become worse just because the screen is larger. You seem to only see PPI as a spec on paper without realizing the actual application.
I could have explained the background details a bit clearer. I pitched it the wrong way.
We know that Apple will upgrade its screen size for the SE4.
Apple did offer the iPhone 8 plus modal at 5.5 inches with 401ppi and resolution 1920x1080 which had sharper text than the XR with 326ppi at 6.1inches.
An IPS panel similar to that at 401ppi at 5.4-5.7inches could be a nice upgrade for the next SE modal from 326ppi if they stick to LCD IPS panels which they most probably will given that it is their entry level phone.