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Apple developed a less-extensive update at the same time as the iPhone 4 as a backup in case something went wrong. Maybe they did that this year, too, and the iPhone 5 design failed at some point (there was some talk of overheating).

Too bad.
 
Stop with the screen already

Apple will not change the screen. It won't happen. These rumor sites are laughing at all of you!
 
ATTENTION! MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION!

I just had the most horrible vision. What if Apple waited this long because of the late Verizon iPhone 4 and NOT because its going to be an all new design?

Oh...dear...

*faints
 
Stop suggesting a new design!!!

To be honest, I believe and still believe the iPhone 5 was always going to be very similar to the iPhone 4. They didn't change the original design for 4 years. They're not going to put a lot of effort into the new design of iPhone 4, then scrap it a year later. At the most, they make the signal issue no longer existant and it'll have a A5 chip. I don't think anyone should expect a new design for iPhone 5.
 
hahaha so true!.. and if this is the new phone.. im sure i wont get it!!
ill just wait for the real upgrade..
You have missed the point. It has a double speed chip. Good for consumers. It is designed to have a lower unit cost, partially by lowering memory, partially by using existing production lines and parts, partially by simply charging less so the "contract price" has a "much" lower figure. Tail wags the dog on contract pricing.

For Apple it is great because some of the existing parts can be produced pending the choke point parts being finished (CPU and cell processor, display). I think it is kinda smart since display production is a limiting factor, by keeping the same display on two generations of units, full production can be maintained even during product cycle demand drop (if any) to pre-ramp the next model year. Also hard news reported the cost is now half.

This sounds like a Cook idea for "supply-chain management". Good job sir! I would email him, but it's not as phun as emailing Steve.

As for timing this 4S is likely the first worldphone, due October. Then come February or June they (maybe, maybe not, if a 1.5 year release cycle suits them as it should) announce 5 with LTE enabled, possibly even announcing limited LTE enablement on the 4S via firmware update. LTE "capable" in October? One can wish. It will extend the product life cyle to better than 3 years! That's what you need when you plan to produce 50-150 million units a year going forward.

Rocketman
 
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Somewhat true...you can still sell a 16gb 3gs for $250 if its it good shape on eBay out of contract. That's still pretty good resale.
If I can get $400 out of my 4 when the new one comes out I would be happy.
I am lucky enough to get an upgrade every year with my plan, so it makes sense to upgrade every year.

IF all we are getting is 4S. I would expect more people to buy the reduced priced 4 or wait for 5. I don't see a lot of people spending the extra $$ for 4S.

Bad move IMO.

Out of interest:
Are you in the UK?
If so, what network are you with and what is your plan and how much do you pay?
(If you're not in the UK, ignore all above questions)

I'm sick of the thought of having to save up for 50 years before I can buy a new iPhone. So, when my iPhone 4 is rougly a year old, I want to get a contract that will allow me a free upgrade to the latest iPhone every year. Also, if you take out a contract like that, do you have to aim it, so when you first purchase the contract it's within the time of a new iPhone release? You wouldn't want to get to the end of a year and realise you can't upgrade to the next iPhone cause it isn't out yet. (What would you do in that case?)
 
You guys take these reports way too seriously.

Did you know iPhone 6 is actually being designed AND made in California? I hear the one after that is waterproof. After that it'll come in 8 different colors (except yellow because light leaks through it). That's when the 12 megapixel camera comes in. Oh, don't forget you can run Photoshop on it with the quad core ARM processor on it. Only 699 plus tax with a new plan from any network you can think of. Oh yeah now at real 4G speed. Just imagine the chaos.

There's a point where rumors should be taken for a grain of salt.
 
Don't forget this is just the case. We still don't know what Apple will put inside. Could be a totally under the hood improvement. Some people just seem like the only thing that matters is what it looks like.

Do you have any guesses as to what make it worth it to upgrade internally from a 4 to a 4S (if that is all they release)?

iOS5 runs perfectly on an iPhone 4. So a speed boost isn't a necessity. The camera will get upgraded, but who cares?

Is there anything that you can even imagine that would make it worth it to somebody who has an iPhone 4 to upgrade?
 
If this is the real deal, I have no idea what Apple has been doing for the last 14 months.

Ummm, yea. I am with you there. If indeed they release the new iPhone 16 months after and it still looks like that, I think I'm gonna either unlock my 3Gs to work on T-Mobile prepaid (cause I hate AT&T) or switch to a temporary Android prepaid. There is no way in hell I would sign a 2 year agreement for that.
 
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It's going to look like a mini ipad. Can't wait. Looking forward to this!
 
To be honest, I believe and still believe the iPhone 5 was always going to be very similar to the iPhone 4. They didn't change the original design for 4 years. They're not going to put a lot of effort into the new design of iPhone 4, then scrap it a year later. At the most, they make the signal issue no longer existant and it'll have a A5 chip. I don't think anyone should expect a new design for iPhone 5.

They changed the original design with the 2nd phone.
 
ATTENTION! MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION!

I just had the most horrible vision. What if Apple waited this long because of the late Verizon iPhone 4 and NOT because its going to be an all new design?

Oh...dear...

*faints

If you'd stop to look beyond your borders, you'd see that no one outside the US gives a damn about Verizon. The iPhone is a world phone, that sells very well outside its domestic market, and as such I'd be highly surprised if the CDMA iPhone dictated the iPhone development schedule, especially as it hasn't sold particularly well.
 
If the next iPhone is indeed an iPhone 4s if you have any stock then you need to sell it now. The market will react negatively to this and with Steve Jobs no longer at the helm it will signal the start of a decline of Apple's stock price. It won't crash but if you have any appreciable quantity it would be best to get out and re-buy when it bottomed.
 
Don't see why people are surprised by this. It'll be another 3GS-like upgrade. Better processor, better camera, probably more RAM, and higher storage space options. I think the only reason it got pushed back was because iOS 5 wasn't ready yet due to them moving people to Lion to finish the development.
 
I would like to see a larger screen, as long as there is an increase of pixels as to maintain the 326ppi, which i really like and value alot more than screen size. But, i dont want to see the phone get any larger, or at the worst, only want to see it increase in size a tiny bit. Ive used many android phones, my interpretation is they are fat massive things that dont fit in your pocket, have a comparably blurry resolution and an oversized screen - i dont like them, i prefer super high pixel density for bright whites and the ability to read any detail on a compact thin phone. There is a point where cell screens are too big, bigger is not always better, its a mobile device after all. There is a sweet spot, that should never be passed at any point no matter how far technology goes. Its not like in 2016 6" screens will be the norm. I could deal with a 4" screen max and then im done

Well I have a HTC Evo and I've grown accustomed to the larger screen. I've owned iPhones since the beginning but decided to skip the 4 to give Android a try. I'll be going back to whatever iPhone they release. The thing about the iPhone 4 is that the resolution is killer. I will miss the bigger screen if they don't change it. My Evo also isn't a fat massive hard to fit thing in my pocket. There are good and bad with both platforms. I do agree that 4" screen should be the max.
 
Don't forget this is just the case. We still don't know what Apple will put inside. Could be a totally under the hood improvement. Some people just seem like the only thing that matters is what it looks like.

Considering my 3GS already runs iOS5 just fine, I don't feel the need for an "under the hood" upgrade if that's all it is.
 
Out of interest:
Are you in the UK?
If so, what network are you with and what is your plan and how much do you pay?
(If you're not in the UK, ignore all above questions)

I'm sick of the thought of having to save up for 50 years before I can buy a new iPhone. So, when my iPhone 4 is rougly a year old, I want to get a contract that will allow me a free upgrade to the latest iPhone every year. Also, if you take out a contract like that, do you have to aim it, so when you first purchase the contract it's within the time of a new iPhone release? You wouldn't want to get to the end of a year and realise you can't upgrade to the next iPhone cause it isn't out yet. (What would you do in that case?)

Sorry, ATT USA
 
If the next iPhone is indeed an iPhone 4s if you have any stock then you need to sell it now. The market will react negatively to this and with Steve Jobs no longer at the helm it will signal the start of a decline of Apple's stock price. It won't crash but if you have any appreciable quantity it would be best to get out and re-buy when it bottomed.

Yeah, they said that right when Jobs resigned too... and the stock bounced back in 48 hours.

Stop spreading FUD.
 
This is just a case...

Couple of thoughts...

1. This does not debunk any rumor of a re-design. There is a very good possibility Apple was testing new components inside of an iPhone 4 and named it the N94 so they can better avoid another Gizmodo leak incident.

2. Apple often updates their MAC line with better specs etc. without a re-design and already have done so with the iPhone 3G/3Gs as we all know...I still like the sound of the next iPhone being the "iPhone 4G" (LTE) for this go around. This would be the only spec bump worthy of the next iphone if there was no re-design IMHO.

I expect nothing less than greatness from Apple.
 
I was reading about Apple buying all those curved glass machines and thought that it might actually be for their new (spaceship) campus windows and not really for a new iphone but who knows.

A thinner version of the iphone 4 with metal back would be nice though.
 
Don't see why people are surprised by this. It'll be another 3GS-like upgrade. Better processor, better camera, probably more RAM, and higher storage space options. I think the only reason it got pushed back was because iOS 5 wasn't ready yet due to them moving people to Lion to finish the development.

As long as my phone runs iOS5 and all the apps on the app store, I could not care less what kind of processor it has.

Upgrading a processor only makes sense if the software upgrades along with it.
 
device represents the upgraded iPhone 5 or an "iPhone 4S" designed to be a cheaper model based on the iPhone 4 design.

Why can't it represent an "iPhone 4S" that is simply the next version of the iPhone? (So no iPhone 5 yet.)

I know that would disappoint those waiting for a redesign, but Apple kept the 3G design for the 3Gs.

iPhone 5 redesign might be coming next year with the availability of suitable 4G chips.
 
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If this rumor is true it shows that Apple put this model out only to humor it's customers. After all is an A5 processor or an 8 megabyte camera such a big deal in an IPhone????
This rumor sounds to bland to be true I don't think Apple would let us down
 
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