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It does not have an explanation tied to it. Again, I've seen suspensions under names from all political aspects.
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He asked how you know why someone was suspended, not how you know they are suspended.
Yes, I get that. My question is does one know why someone is suspended?
Because there seems to be an awful lot of finger pointing that only side one of the political spectrum gets the suspensions. I and others would be proof otherwise.
I like to think I do a fair bit of self moderation intentionally to avoid the attention of mods.
I used the word 'Darn'. Who uses 'Darn'? As regular conversation, not involving socks?!
My major complaint hasn’t really been addressed, myself and I am sure many others were unaware that the rules changed to a permanent ban. I expected a time-out at most. There was no warning of the ban. The only way I would have known that the punishment rules have changed is to actually go to the PRSI section and read the top post.
I always just hit the “new post” url and click on a topic I interesting.
That new 3-strike and you're banned from PRSI rule came about around the time I retired from the staff I think. I don't think there was a real easy way to notify everyone of the new rule except a mass email, which would cause more complaints by the masses who could care less about it. So I think they did the next best thing and made a sticky post about it in the forum. Knowing that most of us skip past stickies and don't' read them, it was still the best option they had available.
I don't know what changes, if any, have been made to the reminder templates, but those have a tendency to be ignored too and people don't always follow the instructions for review and rebuttal. But I do hope that they have something in there about the 3-strike rule and being banned from a specific forum.
I don't know if that was a good answer to your question or not. Does that help any?
There was nothing in the reminders I received about a ban. I think a sticky thread is only good for those who seek that sub forum and don’t use the new post shortcut.
It should definitely be added to the reminder templates. Though at this point there have been so many complaints I think people are getting the news.
It should definitely be added to the reminder templates. Though at this point there have been so many complaints I think people are getting the news.
I'd suggest you send them a Contact message about it to get an official answer and/or improvement suggestion in the system. Or open a new S&FF thread asking for the same.
I agree, there ought to be some kind of notice given in the templates.
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Oh please. May as well have said "I'm rubber you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you!"
now that bit really made me laugh. Go ahead and ship your screed to the conservative news outlets you have good affiliations with. I have good affiliations with conservative news outlets too, believe it or not. They love subscribers and don't care about their politics! I wouldn't waste my brownie points at the NR or CT or whatever by ranting about other people's posts being treated better than mine by mods on some other website though. Duh.Liberal posts in here get deleted all the time, you just don't write them lol so you don't get to experience that particular rush. Mine are usually trashed for replying off topic to an off topic post... and then I straighten up and fly right (well... left) for a while but on topic, so I haven't got suspended yet but my time will come and probably this summer if I don't take a self imposed vacation like I've been trying to launch for three days now
Enjoy your own summer. Try not to get banned before elections. It's always fun to gloat.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Proverbs 26:4,5
It is pretty clear what we have here, and bullies are bullies whichever side of an argument they are on
Answers have been given, reasonable answers
Now is the time to let those who want to rage against the machine to rage in their echo chamber
I for one refuse to continue to engage and give a platform to this nonsense and make it appear to be legitimate discourse
Peace out
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Proverbs 26:4,5
It is pretty clear what we have here, and bullies are bullies whichever side of an argument they are on
Answers have been given, reasonable answers
Now is the time to let those who want to rage against the machine to rage in their echo chamber
I for one refuse to continue to engage and give a platform to this nonsense and make it appear to be legitimate discourse
Peace out
"Suspended" is the result of either an egregious violation or else too many repetitions of minor ones. People get moderated in here all the time on both sides of the aisle since anyone's capable of either getting hot under the collar or making a mistake... and as a bystander to any of that, you're not going to know it unless you happen to see a post one way and then see it gone or edited and realize someone must have reported it because it got deleted or else "cleaned up".
I will also add that it's possible to report a post and get back a note from the mods saying that after consideration, no action was required. One can either accept that or use a contact form to engage in discussion. Generally I'd say it's best to accept it and move on.
To draw a conclusion that only one side or the other gets moderated, gets suspended, gets posts or threads edited or deleted... is just nonsense. You've got people on both sides of the aisle telling you that they've been moderated in this very thread and still you peg "You're wrong" memes at those offerings?
LOL, ok we're all wrong and you know it all and yet... take care, man, anything is possible including the virtual demise of any of us in here. The bottom line is we don't own the website nor control the mods. Seems simple enough as bottom lines go. It's a take it or leave it kinda thing.
I've now developed eye strain from so much rolling. So I think I'll go back to my alternative school middle schoolers. One can still reason with them.
Liberal posts in here get deleted all the time, you just don't write them lol so you don't get to experience that particular rush. Mine are usually trashed for replying off topic to an off topic post... and then I straighten up and fly right (well... left) for a while but on topic, so I haven't got suspended yet but my time will come and probably this summer if I don't take a self imposed vacation like I've been trying to launch for three days now
Enjoy your own summer. Try not to get banned before elections. It's always fun to gloat.
Loved your comments and responding to them, unfortunately I was recently banned from PRSI altogether.
For the record and to calm anyone who thinks the moderation here is biased, I am liberal, defended liberal points of view, and called out the partisan rhetoric as I saw it. I still feel the moderation is up to the individual moderator who reviews your post. It appears moderation will occur if you offend someone and they report you. Unfortunately I have responded to some people who don't like to hear other points of view, or can't take the heat if they get nasty but don't like it in return.
Wish I would have known I could block PRSI altogether before being banned. I guess it's my fault for not reading the EULA. Who has time for that? Best of luck to you.
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Sorry to hear it. I was banned as well partly for responding to some of your partisan banter. All is fair in love and war huh?
I guess we need to suck it up. Cant blame it on partisan moderation can we? Happens to the best of us and the worst of us.
Since you once told me you had several Apple products maybe we can get down to the business of actually using this site for it's intended purpose. Discussing Apple products...
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Personally, i think that if you're going to discuss politics, religion or social issues, you should be prepared for heated debate. If you can't handle it and are easily offended - don't go there.
These are subjects that people will naturally feel very strongly about. Should have a disclaimer prior to entry:
"I am an adult and promise i won't cry about things written in this forum. By entering this section of the site, i accept that any and all content contained herein may be deemed offensive by some, or all people; by entering this forum I accept that I have no grounds for complaint about any of the content."
If someone complains, remove their access. They're clearly not an adult.
Then don't moderate it, except for things that are actually illegal.
Either that, or abandon it entirely.
2c.
These are subjects that people will naturally feel very strongly about. Should have a disclaimer prior to entry:
"I am an adult and promise i won't cry about things written in this forum. By entering this section of the site, i accept that any and all content contained herein may be deemed offensive by some, or all people; by entering this forum I accept that I have no grounds for complaint about any of the content."
If someone complains, remove their access. They're clearly not an adult.
Then don't moderate it, except for things that are actually illegal.
Either that, or abandon it entirely.
2c.
But - and this is what some of the more abrasive proponents of the First Amendment (and perhaps other amendments, also) don't get: There is a difference between heated debate and personal and offensive insult, and I think some of the proponents of "free" speech fail to draw this distinction.
There is a difference between making an argument, debating it, discussing it, rebutting and refuting an argument, and seeking to insult or offend the person putting that argument forward.
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For @bopajuice who I thought was insightful & funny.
I wasn't aware of the new rule change either.
Perhaps that's the reason there's been a small contingent trying so hard to get others moderated. Still can't see the reason why, it makes the forum a lot less interesting without the likes of Bopa & others.
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Saw this thread since I was tagged.
Curious though - because when I'm on the PRSI forum, I don't see that @bopajuice or @Videomanmac have "suspended" or "banned" like I do with others. Are you sure you can't post there any more?
Curious though - because when I'm on the PRSI forum, I don't see that @bopajuice or @Videomanmac have "suspended" or "banned" like I do with others. Are you sure you can't post there any more?
You won't see those indications when "banned" from a forum. What it really is, is that their rights to post in a forum were removed.
Interesting. In the past I thought we saw banned/suspended under their username. Maybe that changed... Or maybe that's just when it's site wide
Even funnier, a website whose primary focus is Apple related tech, with a secondary focus on the tech sector in general.
"I feel like there's biased moderation on a website, the forum area specifically."
"OK! So this is a political website!"
"No, it's a site dedicated to Apple technology, you know, iPhone rumors, new Apple Watch bands, there's a mobile game review area!"
*crickets*
When you are ”banned” from posting in PRSI (as I have been), there is no public indication of that anywhere. I can post anywhere else on the forums but every thread in PRSI simply says that I have “insufficient privileges” to reply.
Exactly right. As a privately owned site, the forum rules are appropriately stricter than a subjective notion of what constitutes "acceptable discourse".
The rules have an element of subjectivity in them, which is to be expected, but after reading what you posted, it appears to me that they clearly violated the rules. In #1 you basically called TC_Goldrush a racist. Probably falls into the Taunting category:
In #2, you called Videomanmac an idiot, which is also Taunting.
In #3, you broadly characterized all people who attend the President's rallies as "big crowds of white people" who hate liberals and minorities, which apparently falls into the slurs and trolling category:
Just because what you think is "explicitly racist" doesn't make it so. Anyway, as far as PRSI goes, that's for the moderators to decide, not you. As I see it, in #1, TC_Goldrush appears to be referring to American culture, which isn't racist and doesn't violate the rules. But calling him a racist in response, as you did, could be interpreted as misstating his views, which is a violation.
Seems to me that when posting in PRSI, people need to keep the rules in mind and ask themselves, before hitting the "Post Reply" button, whether what they wrote could be interpreted as a violation.
I received a message letting me know I can no longer post to PRSI. If I try I get an error message. I am not suspended or banned per se.
I do appreciate their attempt to clean up the forums. At first I went through the denial, the anger, sent some combative messages to the mods, but then I read others have been banned as well. It made it more palatable to know this appeared to be an attempt to clean up the forum. Maybe the PRSI section can get back to having discussions instead of partisan pissing contests. If thats the case, my work here is done.
Thanks for the kind words fellow members. Stick to your beliefs no matter what they may be, but do yourselves a favor and listen to other points of view. Having an open mind enables us to learn something new and makes us better people.
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