PRSI Forum discussion

[S.B.G]

I obeyed the rules. I didn’t break a single bannable offense - if you only were able to know what I was banned for, it was for something that I shouldn’t have banned for. I never attacked a single member.

Oh, we can know.

All you have to do is publicly ask for and authorize the staff to post, publicly your moderation history and they'll do it. Then we can all see what you've done.

I think only 1 or 2 people have ever actually done it. They had courage, as Phil Schiller would say.

https://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201294976

You can waive your right to moderation privacy when posting in the Site and Forum Feedback forum if you say explicitly that you give us permission to discuss the reasons behind your moderation. This includes your previous forum record, since that's a factor.

 

[millerj123]

This is laughable. The fact that people like Zombie Acorn, lostngone, ThisIsNotMe, pdqgp, Rhonindk, and others are still allowed to post there is proof positive that there is no anti-conservative agenda going on. If those guys can continue to post their drivel without consequence, then their certainly is no anti-conservative moderating going on. Almost all of the more liberal voices form the past are gone, banned (including myself). But, the conservative-troll movement just keeps picking up steam. PRSI is far, far more conservative than

Funny, I don’t see any of them anymore. I’m much better for it.

 

[I7guy]

Translation: You're okay with moderators banning people, as long as it's not you and your conservatives.

That may be a little harsh, but I agree no matter what your point of view, as stated by several forum members and admins, follow the rules.

(A general comment) A little comportment goes along way in every forum and if you think there is violations of the rules for debate, trolling, flaming, flame-baiting report the violation, report the thread. Ask the mods to take a look at what is going on with that thread.

I don't care what your political affiliation is, but one should be able to post in PRSI and expect some intelligent discourse and not some thinly disguised response masquerading as an ad-hom or equivalent, which seems to happen frequently especially in hot-button topics. As I said previously, my $.02.

As I like this site and spend a bit of time here, I've gotten my hand wacked in MR school in the past and learned and moved on.
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[...]If those guys can continue to post their drivel without consequence[...]

Drivel reigns supreme in PRSI. It's not about "those guys". The thread titled "is bob a pedophile" is to my eyes a prime example of the type of drivel that you speak of that should be banished to wasteland, if I were king for a day.

 

[Videomanmac]

Oh, we can know.

All you have to do is publicly ask for and authorize the staff to post, publicly your moderation history and they'll do it. Then we can all see what you've done.

I think only 1 or 2 people have ever actually done it. They had courage, as Phil Schiller would say.

https://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201294976

Thanks for that. I’m fully transparent, so I will be using the Contact form to inform the moderators that I give my permission to publicly discuss and post my moderation history. I have nothing to hide.

 

[bopajuice]

Conservatives aren’t banned at any higher rate than liberals so there will be no pity party for you. Secondly support or opposition to the current POTUS doesn’t signal conservative or liberal as rogi demonstrates almost daily. The thing is rule breaking and perceived rule breaking are fairly easy if the jokesters midge and renz can be banned then rules are being enforced equally.

TBH I love PRSI and it’s what keeps me coming back some day there will be a new Mac Pro so my attention will switch to that but until then I’ll make fun of trumpers and über libs.

In the end PRSI is fun if you take it that way there’s almost nothing that goes on there that will make me mad to include you. We’ve all got our thing and we’re all going to expound on it forcefully and in great detail on the internet since it’s the rulz of the internet and has been since there’s been an internet.

Where did you come up with this nonsense? I am liberal and have been banned three times in the last six months for responding to this kind of baseless BS. Please explain where you obtained this information.
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That may be a little harsh, but I agree no matter what your point of view, as stated by several forum members and admins, follow the rules.

(A general comment) A little comportment goes along way in every forum and if you think there is violations of the rules for debate, trolling, flaming, flame-baiting report the violation, report the thread. Ask the mods to take a look at what is going on with that thread.

I don't care what your political affiliation is, but one should be able to post in PRSI and expect some intelligent discourse and not some thinly disguised response masquerading as an ad-hom or equivalent, which seems to happen frequently especially in hot-button topics. As I said previously, my $.02.

As I like this site and spend a bit of time here, I've gotten my hand wacked in MR school in the past and learned and moved on.
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Drivel reigns supreme in PRSI. It's not about "those guys". The thread titled "is bob a pedophile" is to my eyes a prime example of the type of drivel that you speak of that should be banished to wasteland, if I were king for a day.

I am glad we are recently having a dialogue about this stuff. PRSI is on it's way out as far as I am concerned. Mainly because of the closed minded propaganda that we have to endure here on a regular basis. If you don't want to have a conversation, if you don't want to consider other points of view, if your only response is to attack someone your don't agree with over partisan politics... will result in a shutdown.

I really have trouble understanding why someone would come to a computer site only to argue about politics. If you look at the posters who spend time in the PRSI forum many of them never post anything related to Apple or computers at all.

 

[lowendlinux]

Where did you come up with this nonsense? I am liberal and have been banned three times in the last six months for responding to this kind of baseless BS. Please explain where you obtained this information.
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I am glad we are recently having a dialogue about this stuff. PRSI is on it's way out as far as I am concerned. Mainly because of the closed minded propaganda that we have to endure here on a regular basis. If you don't want to have a conversation, if you don't want to consider other points of view, if your only response is to attack someone your don't agree with over partisan politics... will result in a shutdown.

I really have trouble understanding why someone would come to a computer site only to argue about politics. If you look at the posters who spend time in the PRSI forum many of them never post anything related to Apple or computers at all.

You haven’t been banned because you’re responding to me.

If you think liberals are banned more than conservatives then OK

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Not everything on here is about American liberals and conservatives. There are plenty of other nationalities joining in within the debates and this constant whining and labelling every time somebody disagrees with someone is tiring.

If you get banned it’s because you’ve been warned enough times for it to be warranted. Many of us here have posted for years without getting suspended or banned. Time for everybody I take responsibility for their own comments and stop moaning about the mods taking favour.

 

[Videomanmac]

So, my moderation records are now able to be discussed. To show what exactly I was banned for, here it is:

It looks a lot like the Moderators, and on behalf of MacRumors, want us to read brainwashed liberal media. I can choose who I want to read.

And then here is the first suspension post:

Which ok, I can see where this falls out of line, but it is still true if you look at crime rates.

 

[TheAppleFairy]

If this works out for you I’d be happy to follow suit and share mine, I doubt it will make any difference though.

There are probably other warnings they gave you that they are probably going to bring up too.

So, my moderation records are now able to be discussed. To show what exactly I was banned for, here it is:
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It looks a lot like the Moderators, and on behalf of MacRumors, want us to read brainwashed liberal media. I can choose who I want to read.

And then here is the first suspension post:
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Which ok, I can see where this falls out of line, but it is still true if you look at crime rates.
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[BigMcGuire]

So you guys got a warning, then ban from PRSI right after that? I guess I can kinda understand the skin color comment, but not the Fox News comment being a bannable offense from PRSI.

 

[TheAppleFairy]

So you guys got a warning, then ban from PRSI right after that? I guess I can kinda understand the skin color comment, but not the Fox News comment being a bannable offense from PRSI.

In typical moderation fashion we get warnings that we broke rules. The 3rd time I got a warning in a 6 month period I got a suspension and a ban from PRSI forums.

What is annoying about it is I didn’t know they permanently banned people, it was a new rule that was added.there was no warning in the moderation telling me that I would be banned.

 

[Videomanmac]

So you guys got a warning, then ban from PRSI right after that? I guess I can kinda understand the skin color comment, but not the Fox News comment being a bannable offense from PRSI.

I was banned from PSRI after 2 suspensions. First suspension I was banned from the forum, but wasn't banned from PSRI. Second suspension I was banned from PSRI. I had received a few reminder PM's, as well.
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If this works out for you I’d be happy to follow suit and share mine, I doubt it will make any difference though.

There are probably other warnings they gave you that they are probably going to bring up too.

I wasn't aware the warnings counted towards the goal. I get warnings about "off-topic" posts on occasion, and got one or two warnings for PSRI "trolling" - I figured only suspensions counted.

 

[TheAppleFairy]

I was banned from PSRI after 2 suspensions. First suspension I was banned from the forum, but wasn't banned from PSRI. Second suspension I was banned from PSRI. I had received a few reminder PM's, as well.

The rule is about breaking the rules 3 times in a 6 month period (so warnings count), but if you were warned about the Fox News comment...Wow, just wow.

 

[quagmire]

So, my moderation records are now able to be discussed. To show what exactly I was banned for, here it is:
View attachment 769151

It looks a lot like the Moderators, and on behalf of MacRumors, want us to read brainwashed liberal media. I can choose who I want to read.

I would imagine since that was self-admitting you didn't read the article at hand, they took it as you were not seriously going to discuss the issue and were trolling.

Doubt it actually had to do with your preferred news source being Fox News.

 

[Weaselboy]

I was banned from PSRI after 2 suspensions. First suspension I was banned from the forum, but wasn't banned from PSRI. Second suspension I was banned from PSRI. I had received a few reminder PM's, as well.

One of the admins will jump in here to discuss your moderation history with you since you have now waived your right to privacy, but please be patient, as it may take them a bit to get to it.

Also, just to clarify, the three strikes is not three suspensions, but three violations of the Rules for Appropriate Debate in PRSI. So in theory, one could have say an insult reminder, a trolling reminder, then a trolling suspension... and that would be three strikes.

Here is the post that describes the policy.

Announcement: Some changes in the way the PRSI section is moderated

 

[Videomanmac]

The rule is about breaking the rules 3 times in a 6 month period (so warnings count), but if you were warned about the Fox News comment...Wow, just wow.

The Fox News comment was the post that got me suspended from the forum and banned from PSRI.

I would imagine it was since that was self-admitting you didn't read the article at hand, they took it as you were not seriously going to discuss the issue and were trolling.

The "other" media has shown, in my opinion, to be always a version of fake news. It's clickbait articles. I can use my existing knowledge to discuss a topic, and there are also articles to sites in PSRI that are posted that require you to purchase a subscription to that site.
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One of the admins will jump in here to discuss your moderation history with you since you have now waived your right to privacy, but please be patient, as it may take them a bit to get to it.

Also, just to clarify, the three strikes is not three suspensions, but three violations of the Rules for Appropriate Debate in PRSI. So in theory, one could have say an insult reminder, a trolling reminder, then a trolling suspension... and that would be three strikes.

Here is the post that describes the policy.

Announcement: Some changes in the way the PRSI section is moderated

Fantastic, I am excited for their response. I'm happy a fellow member here showed me that FAQ article saying I have waived my right to privacy.

I can see where the confusion was, and thank you for clarifying that. Perhaps an off-topic Reminder shouldn't be worded similarly to a "trolling" "reminder".

 

[TheAppleFairy]

One of the admins will jump in here to discuss your moderation history with you since you have now waived your right to privacy, but please be patient, as it may take them a bit to get to it.

Also, just to clarify, the three strikes is not three suspensions, but three violations of the Rules for Appropriate Debate in PRSI. So in theory, one could have say an insult reminder, a trolling reminder, then a trolling suspension... and that would be three strikes.

Here is the post that describes the policy.

Announcement: Some changes in the way the PRSI section is moderated

I've got nothing to hide. how do I waive my right to privacy? I want to show the forum how ridiculous moderation is.

Can I post a screenshot of my moderation? I am willing to show screenshots of every warning I've ever gotten.

 

[quagmire]

The "other" media has shown, in my opinion, to be always a version of fake news. It's clickbait articles. I can use my existing knowledge to discuss a topic, and there are also articles to sites in PSRI that are posted that require you to purchase a subscription to that site.

And for articles behind paywalls, that's fair that you couldn't read the article itself. But come back stating that and your viewpoint backed by an article from Fox News covering the same subject( if they chose to cover it). Heck, I wouldn't mind that being a rule for PRSI saying articles can't be behind paywalls because it is unfair for you to fairly debate the article if you can't read it. There are rules for a proper debate. And immediately dismissing a topic because you just classified the source as fake news immediately is not a proper behavior in a civilized debate.

 

[AlliFlowers]

I've gotten warnings too. There is no point in whining about it. It's done. These decisions are not going to be overturned.

 

[Weaselboy]

I've got nothing to hide. how do I waive my right to privacy? I want to show the forum how ridiculous moderation is.

Can I post a screenshot of my moderation? I am willing to show screenshots of every warning I've ever gotten.

You can just explicitly waive it right here in this thread and you may post the reminders if you like. But nobody on staff will address it until the admins circle through here.

From the FAQ:

You can waive your right to moderation privacy when posting in the Site and Forum Feedback forum if you say explicitly that you give us permission to discuss the reasons behind your moderation. This includes your previous forum record, since that's a factor.

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I've gotten warnings too. There is no point in whining about it. It's done. These decisions are not going to be overturned.

That is not the case. If you disagree with moderation, use that contact us link to explain why and the admins will review the moderation. They reverse moderation they think was done incorrectly, or was a misunderstanding.

 

[AlliFlowers]

That is not the case. If you disagree with moderation, use that contact us link to explain why and the admins will review the moderation. They reverse moderation they think was done incorrectly, or was a misunderstanding.

Good to know!

 

[BigMcGuire]

Does getting post removed count as a warning? I've had posts removed because they were in response to a moderated post, so I imagine these don't count, but I have also had posts removed because they were off topic - I assume those count as one of the 3 warnings?

Thanks to Weaselboy for the info above.

 

[S.B.G]

Does getting post removed count as a warning? I've had posts removed because they were in response to a moderated post, so I imagine these don't count, but I have also had posts removed because they were off topic - I assume those count as one of the 3 warnings?

Thanks to Weaselboy for the info above.

If a post was removed and you DID NOT receive a reminder, then no, it does not count.

 

[Weaselboy]

Does getting post removed count as a warning? I've had posts removed because they were in response to a moderated post, so I imagine these don't count, but I have also had posts removed because they were off topic - I assume those count as one of the 3 warnings?

Thanks to Weaselboy for the info above.

No... posts removed because they were a reply to a moderated post do not count as a violation in PRSI or anywhere else.

Posts that are just off topic or frivolous also would not count as strikes. The rule violations that automatically count as strikes are those listed in the Rules for Appropriate Debate (link below).

https://macrumors.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201327723-MacRumors-Rules-for-Appropriate-Debate

 

[RichardMZhlubb]

In the interest of greater transparency for moderation in PRSI, I’m also happy to waive any right to privacy I have with respect to the moderation of my PRSI posts (which resulted in my being banned from PRSI for violating the rule against three violations in six months). Do I have to wait for some sort of response, or can I just go ahead and post the reminders I received from moderators?