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Quite the opposite, I go for people who are snobs. "wireless isn't good enough for gaming" "Wii is bad because it's too weak" "Mario is 4 teh kiddies" are easy targets.

I have no such delusions regarding the "kiddiness" of any title - you're speaking to someone who is hopelessly addicted to LocoRoco and Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime. I simply don't enjoy modern Mario platformer titles, although I am still a huge fan of the sports series (Super Mario Strikers, for instance, is among my favorite Wii titles).
And no, I don't mind using wireless gaming, personally - I don't fall into the same "hardcore" online gaming crowd as others, seeing as I was a dial-up user until only a year and a half ago, although I can understand their position.

raggedjimmi said:
I might be a snob in that I only play the best games, whatever console they're on, this generation for lack of free time.

You know this is not what I was referring to, but your point is a very good one all the same. I try to achieve this to the greatest extent possible, but I simply don't have the available cashflow to afford all three seventh gen systems, and as such I'm forced to make a decision. That doesn't mean I can't thoroughly enjoy Wii Sports or Warhawk while at a friend's house; likely three years from now I'll own all the 7G consoles anyway, once the prices have dropped significantly.
 
price comparo of fully functional systems since none has yet to put the numbers up.

ps3 = 499 (so i dont have to buy a ps2)

349 xbox. + 179 hddvd player + 99 wifi adapter. = 627
* wifi adapter is a/b/g standard. using microsoft products not 3d party.


At least the X360 give you the choice to buy an HD player or not. Believe or not, some people are only interested in games. Who said the WIFI adapter was necessary also ?

PS3 has almost no game to play besides warhawk and rachet and clank. My PS3 is collecting dust for awhile now.
 
price comparo of fully functional systems since none has yet to put the numbers up.

ps3 = 499 (so i dont have to buy a ps2)

349 xbox. + 179 hddvd player + 99 wifi adapter. = 627
* wifi adapter is a/b/g standard. using microsoft products not 3d party.

Nice try, but your image of "fully functional" differs from everyone who doesn't want a HD video player.

That said my "fully functional" 360 needs WiFi. £250+£50 is a lot less than the cheapest PS3, and is (partially) b/c with last gen. And plays more new games, and has more higher rated games etc...

When all's said and done if a £70 DS can have WiFi then why can't a £250, or worse still the Elite model, have WiFi.
 
I don't even think it's worth fighting with this guys warped perception of logic.

I found something i agree with you on Jimmi!! ;) :cool:

I think this guy has no logic, he obviously has nothing solid to back up his claims and is very good at spinning topics to his own agenda.

mosx said:
more chatter..

To restate, PSN as far as gaming online goes will always be free, games may cost, add-ons and micro transactions may cost, but gaming as in playing online and communicating with friends will never cost a penny. I know a few of you know me, this is more confirmed than any "search google" remark.

The $400 Ps3 is fully functional PS3. You may not get card readers and BC for PS2 games, but the PS3 features are there and fully funtional. Last i heard PS2 was last generation and is included as a bonus more than a required feature.

You must love playing Barbie Ponies on your 360, since its 1 of very few games that MS has made BC with the 360. MS has backtracked over and over releasing patches for BC, patches that if you had no HD you wouldnt be able to get, and they still have less BC than the PS3 had out of the gate.

WiFi is fine for gaming, you don't need N, nor do you need the speed of FastE or GigE netowrking. Most games are transferring nominal amounts of data as all of the intensive data is either stored locally on your system, or is contained on the disc in your system. To sit here and say WiFi is not enough for gaming basically shows your lack of knowledge. 90% of the problems I see regarding wifi on the PS3 boards are user error, or user setup problems, not pure WiFi problems. There was an issue back in 1.8 when WiFi could cause BD playback to freeze, but that was cured with the 1.81 software update. It also had nothing to do with games freezing, just movie playback.

Plain and simple the 360 is more expensive than the PS3 when you compare them 1:1, you can deny it all you want but it is the truth regardless if you accept it or not. The 360 has a longer warranty since it has a 30% failure rate, some say its higher than 30% but MS isn't saying much. Ill stick with a PS3 that has less than a 3% failure rate. The PS2 had quality issues in some of the runs. Sony learned from them, they admitted to using cheap components in the manufacturing of the PS2, something MS has yet to admit even though we all know it. Sony learned from the mistakes of using cheap hardware, the PS3 components are of the utmost quality and with a less than 3% failure rate I think it shows for itself.

Nintendo is a gaming legacy, to come out and say its just kid stuff is a bit ignorant. Gaming as we know it today was shaped by a lot of the descions that Nintendo made. Our controllers evolved from Nintendo, platformers evolved from Nintendo roots, at some point in time every gaming company wanted to be just like Nintendo and in some aspects still to this day most want to be the same as them in regards to making profits on their consoles from Day 1.

The Wii while having a gimmicky feel at times is a lot of fun to play. The gimmicky feel usually comes from poor development and not from the system itself. Mario Galaxy is a stunning game for the Wii, it pulls off the control scheme in a non gimmicky fashion and really does a great job of pulling you in to the story. Zelda is a great game, my only complaint with it was that I would have loved the option of being able to use the CC to play.

The Wii has its merits, its sales show that it can appeal to people that may not have been interested in our industry in past generations. It overall can help all consoles as they may pick up interest in other games on the PS3 or the 360.

Ed
 
<elitist tech snobbery>
And yet somehow I manage to maintain a smooth connection, somehow I manage to play good-looking games online without interference, somehow I manage to do all this. Surely it's not magic, is it? And 'thousands' of posts out of millions of PS3 users is hardly a major issue. ;)
 
I think this guy has no logic, he obviously has nothing solid to back up his claims and is very good at spinning topics to his own agenda.

Like I said, Bill O'Reilly. :D:D All he has left to do now is yell his points across, believing that the louder you yell them, the more right they are.
 
It is a capital sin to enjoy a microsoft product around here...

Either way, I think they are plenty to enjoy on all platform and they are all worth purchasing.
 
price comparo of fully functional systems since none has yet to put the numbers up.

ps3 = 499 (so i dont have to buy a ps2)

349 xbox. + 179 hddvd player + 99 wifi adapter. = 627
* wifi adapter is a/b/g standard. using microsoft products not 3d party.

I think you really mean "fully functioning high-def wireless multimedia system".

If you talk about most people, a fully functioning game console consists of only the unit, controller, memory saving, and cable. Both have ethernet. So, the price is now:

XB360 Arcade: $279
PS3 40Gig: $399

Both can play great games... and it's all about the games, not console feature this or wi-fi that.

I tried gaming over wi-fi anyways and on 802.11g, it's kinda slow for me with a lot of interference. I use wired...
 
It is a capital sin to enjoy a microsoft product around here...

Either way, I think they are plenty to enjoy on all platform and they are all worth purchasing.

We do enjoy the Xbox 360. We're just having to deal with a rediculous Xbox 360 fanboy in this thread spewing FUD left and right.
 
It is a capital sin to enjoy a microsoft product around here...

Either way, I think they are plenty to enjoy on all platform and they are all worth purchasing.

Nah, it's just a capital sin to act like mosx. Nobody's getting on YOU about the 360.

All of the systems have their benefits, but when one blindly exalts one system above the rest with flamebait-filled posts bashing the others, everyone will go at him.
 
hell I love my 360

No one here hates the system

What people DO hate here is FUD which is no different than anyplace else on earth or the internet

increase the peace ;)
 
I hate when certain users drop onto a board and think that they know what's going on.

Nobody is complaining about the 360. Just the failure rate. Bloody hell.
 
I hate when certain users drop onto a board and think that they know what's going on.

Nobody is complaining about the 360. Just the failure rate. Bloody hell.

and yet I am still using my day one X360. If you read this forum, all x360 are broken and not working which is far from the truth.
 
and yet I am still using my day one X360. If you read this forum, all x360 are broken and not working which is far from the truth.

I believe the claim was a 30% defect rate. That still means that you're more likely to have a working one than a broken one.
 
Nice try, but your image of "fully functional" differs from everyone who doesn't want a HD video player.

That said my "fully functional" 360 needs WiFi. £250+£50 is a lot less than the cheapest PS3, and is (partially) b/c with last gen. And plays more new games, and has more higher rated games etc...

i dont think anyone is getting my point. this has nothing to do with what people want. this is purely a price comparo.
if you read the rest of his argument it is saying that his "fully functional" xbox has backward compatibility. and the 399 ps3 does not, making it not fully functional.
i am taking his argument and putting to an equal level. so my statement stands.

yes the 360 is cheaper. with that argument. not everyone needs this not everyone needs that but my point is the systems are not equal. lets play the comparison game with equal systems. either way your paying a fair amount of cash for what ever system. my point is not about choices of options it's about equal comparisons.

Exactly. The fully functional PS3 costs $499. The fully functional Xbox360 costs $349. yadda yadda ......

edit: as i stated before i do not own either system i am waiting for major price drops. and which ever gives me the best deal then i will think about buying. to me both systems have their good and bad.

on a side note.. anyone know when gears is coming out for the mac?
 
You guys make me sad.

I see my post was completely ignored.

Personal insults continue, and the bickering like school children in the playground.

This thread should have remained closed. Nothing good comes out of threads like this.

:rolleyes::(
If no one gets too heated, an argument like this is fun, even if someone is being a complete fool about it.

Michaelltd and I are both having fun with it. A lot of people are amused. Don't be a spoilsport :p As long as it is contained to one thread...just avoid the thread!

Heck, we should just sticky this thread and contain the argument so it doesn't appear anywhere else.
 
i dont think anyone is getting my point. this has nothing to do with what people want. this is purely a price comparo.
if you read the rest of his argument it is saying that his "fully functional" xbox has backward compatibility. and the 399 ps3 does not, making it not fully functional.
i am taking his argument and putting to an equal level. so my statement stands.

yes the 360 is cheaper. with that argument. not everyone needs this not everyone needs that but my point is the systems are not equal. lets play the comparison game with equal systems. either way your paying a fair amount of cash for what ever system. my point is not about choices of options it's about equal comparisons.
Thank you. This is what I was trying to say earlier.

People keep throwing the term 'fully functional' around. But 'fully functional' is completely subjective. I don't own any PS2 games so the $399 PS3 is fully functional. I do want HD video, either Blu-ray or HD-DVD. In that case the 360 is NOT fully functional unless I buy the HD-DVD add-on which in that case makes the PS3 much cheaper.

What's fully functional to one person isn't necessarily fully functional to another person.
 
Thank you. This is what I was trying to say earlier.

People keep throwing the term 'fully functional' around. But 'fully functional' is completely subjective. I don't own any PS2 games so the $399 PS3 is fully functional. I do want HD video, either Blu-ray or HD-DVD. In that case the 360 is NOT fully functional unless I buy the HD-DVD add-on which in that case makes the PS3 much cheaper.

What's fully functional to one person isn't necessarily fully functional to another person.

Which sums it up rather succinctly, I would say.
 
Please let me stop this bickering:

I didn't want to start a flamewar. I leave this thread alone for less than a week and it turns in to a flamewar.

My statement:

It's all a personal preference, and Sony is my choice. (Also, ironically, the same day some user posted a comment about terrible bose, I bought a bose home theater. It's f*cking amazing.) I've had nothing but good luck with sony.I buy sony on a regular basis, I have a HandyCam from them, and two sound systems that are 10 years old. That's just the start.

Some brands just don't seem to like me. Apple products, for me, always do not perform as they should until it is repaired one time. Microsoft has not been a good one either. Seagate... etc.

Bose, always been good to me.
Sony, always been good to me.
WD, always been good to me.


I trust sony. I also play the games a lot at my friends, and I have grown to much prefer the controller and games.

I will also use it as a Media Centre... so that will be good with the PS3.

I did definitely consider it, but I prefer the PS3, they're both 399. The PS3 has a larger HD which is extremely important, and I prefer the UI and Controllers.

It's more cost effective for me. I need Wi-Fi. I need a big hard drive. Here in Canada: PS3 40GB: $399. XBOX360 20GB Premium with no Wifi: $399. I like the PS3 XMB, UI and controllers and games. PS3 wins.
Thanks for your help, no thanks for your flaming.
 
Up until my DS Lite cracked hinge Nintendo products had never broke on me. I've had no problems with Apple, IBM, Dell and Roland products too. :)

Our 360 needed replacing, my own 2 systems RROD on the same day (guessing it was some kind of power surge or something). PS1 needed laser replacing, Sony MD player and amp just stopped working. PSP had dead pixels galore. But their headphones have never let me down at least.

But yea they do have an impact on puchases. Just as I won't buy Sony without a good return/repair policy (which is fixed by buying from Costco here). After the Rootkit fiasco I won't be using Sony software :eek:
 
Up until my DS Lite cracked hinge Nintendo products had never broke on me. I've had no problems with Apple, IBM, Dell and Roland products too. :)

Our 360 needed replacing, my own 2 systems RROD on the same day (guessing it was some kind of power surge or something). PS1 needed laser replacing, Sony MD player and amp just stopped working. PSP had dead pixels galore. But their headphones have never let me down at least.

But yea they do have an impact on puchases. Just as I won't buy Sony without a good return/repair policy (which is fixed by buying from Costco here). After the Rootkit fiasco I won't be using Sony software :eek:

for 50 bucks, you've convinced me to get the extended warranty.
 
I decided not to do i ton of quotes on mosk's posts. Instead i will simply say.

You dont give any reasonable arguments. Mostly about the wireless. So you want to go to a Starbucks and go up an ask for an ethernet cable? Not all of use have huge ethernet cable that can go from our basement to our upstairs' TVs and computers.

So leave this thread now. You dont need to be spending your time writing full page posts, only to reread and find it makes no sense, but you post it anyway.

Please let me stop this bickering:


Thread over
 
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