But how the hell could it possibly be better than a 1080p TV, given that the games themselves max out at that?
Because just about every Xbox360 and PS3 game is rendered at 720p and upscaled to higher resolutions
Except that the PS3 lacks a hardware scaler, so most games are stuck at 720p regardless.
From what I have been told, with the 360 you need to have a Wi-Fi antenna and you and all these ADDITIONAL accessories to take full advantage of the system. You also have to install additional software each month to play the games. With the PS3, you don't have to do that. Sure, there are updates for the PS3, but none that are going to affect you from playing games. With the 360, if you don't have access to a physical internet connection, you can't update the system and play the games.
Well, what you have been told is wrong.
The Xbox360 Premium comes with everything out of the box you need to get up and running, playing games online, a headset, and component cables to connect the system to an HDTV, as well as the HDD.
The HD-DVD drive is optional. Why? Well, its a bad business decision to force an unnecessary and very expensive format on to a consumer that doesn't want it. Every PS3 game available would fit on a DVD with either the audio compressed or the dummy files removed.
Wi-Fi? Useless. I want to stream HD content to my game console. Can't do that over Wi-Fi.
How do you know the PS3 doesn't require updates for games to be played? Sony did that with the PSP. There is absolutely no reason to believe they will not do the same thing with the PS3. With the Xbox, updates are only required for online player, as it has already been stated. But Sony has a history of requiring updates for games to even run. Just look at the PSP. I guarantee you that Sony will do the same thing with the PS3. It will be transparent, as it has been with the PSP. Updates will be included on the disc, for those instances where the console is not internet connected.
And whoooa MOSX posted again! Shame he spent all that time writing when most of us won't bother reading it I might give it a go later if I can put up with his lies.Lololo "have to pay to change account name on Steam for each game" olololol
It's hilarious when people post immature nonsense like this. You just showed your lack of credibility and lack of intelligence, as well as your inability to backup your own argument.
Again, if you don't believe me about the account name situation with Steam... GOOGLE IT. That is how it was in the past. Valve changed it now so that it cannot be changed, however, in the past you had to send your original CD key TO THEM and $10. It was on their very own site. But considering your "lies lololol" response, I doubt you even have the ability to use google.
a quick glance and he seems to think popularity=how good a game is. In that case Pokemon Red/Blue sold more than a lot of other games. I suppose all them Metal Gear (nono Jimmi use a game he cares about), Halo 1 and 2 are worse than Pokemon? Why isn't the top selling game of all time also not the highest rated?
I don't even think it's worth fighting with this guys warped perception of logic.
Can you speak in English please?
Pokemon sold because of all of the little kids who just had to have it. Ironically, those little kids are now young adults and older teenagers and they're the same ones buying the Wii. The Nintendo Circle continues.
To restate, PSN as far as gaming online goes will always be free, games may cost, add-ons and micro transactions may cost, but gaming as in playing online and communicating with friends will never cost a penny. I know a few of you know me, this is more confirmed than any "search google" remark.
Thats not what Sony said
Again, if you don't believe me, google it. It was specifically said in an interview a couple months back that the PSN will not always be free beyond basic connectivity and that gameplay itself might become a premium feature. You can deny it all you want, but you'll simply be in denial.
The $400 Ps3 is fully functional PS3. You may not get card readers and BC for PS2 games, but the PS3 features are there and fully funtional. Last i heard PS2 was last generation and is included as a bonus more than a required feature.
See, a year ago, every talking head at Sony Computer Entertainment said "backwards compatibility is paramount to our strategy" or some other nonsense. Kuturagi made fun of Microsoft for going with software backwards compatibility instead of using hardware for it. He even went on to say that backwards compatibility was so important that it would help the Playstation formats "live forever" and that every system would offer full backwards compatibility. Phil Harrison had also gone on record talking about how important backwards compatibility was.
Now Sony's official response is that it is not important at all.
Let's not forget Sony's other instances of backtracking. Like the online features for GT4, the PS2 HDD's multi-media features, etc.
You must love playing Barbie Ponies on your 360, since its 1 of very few games that MS has made BC with the 360. MS has backtracked over and over releasing patches for BC, patches that if you had no HD you wouldnt be able to get, and they still have less BC than the PS3 had out of the gate.
One of the very few games?
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm Funny, that looks like most of the original Xbox library to me!
Less BC than the PS3? Uh, look at the $399 PS3
WiFi is fine for gaming, you don't need N, nor do you need the speed of FastE or GigE netowrking. Most games are transferring nominal amounts of data as all of the intensive data is either stored locally on your system, or is contained on the disc in your system. To sit here and say WiFi is not enough for gaming basically shows your lack of knowledge. 90% of the problems I see regarding wifi on the PS3 boards are user error, or user setup problems, not pure WiFi problems. There was an issue back in 1.8 when WiFi could cause BD playback to freeze, but that was cured with the 1.81 software update. It also had nothing to do with games freezing, just movie playback.
Thats funny because I see more people playing on PCs and PS3s that have "lag" issues that seem to disappear when an ethernet cable is plugged in.
Again, its not the amount of data that is being transferred that is the issue with gaming. It is the signal strength and the ability of the router to get the data going smoothly. 802.11g can suffer from interference from everything from the noise inside the PS3 to the TV its sitting next to, to someone walking down the street outside on a cellphone.
WiFi is not good for gaming and it is practically unusable for streaming video.
Plain and simple the 360 is more expensive than the PS3 when you compare them 1:1, you can deny it all you want but it is the truth regardless if you accept it or not. The 360 has a longer warranty since it has a 30% failure rate, some say its higher than 30% but MS isn't saying much. Ill stick with a PS3 that has less than a 3% failure rate. The PS2 had quality issues in some of the runs. Sony learned from them, they admitted to using cheap components in the manufacturing of the PS2, something MS has yet to admit even though we all know it. Sony learned from the mistakes of using cheap hardware, the PS3 components are of the utmost quality and with a less than 3% failure rate I think it shows for itself.
PS3 has a 3% failure rate? Again, wheres the proof? Browsing more forums than just this one, you'll find that the majority of PS3s are either unused or get used as blu-ray players. The PS3 simply hasn't been used enough, and doesn't have the software available to even justify using it, to show whether or not it has a high failure rate.
Sony NEVER admitted to using cheap parts in the PS2. Hence the reason they fought and LOST a class action lawsuit against them regarding the bad build quality of the PS2.
Microsoft DID admit there were manufacturing errors with the Xbox360 and that was the reason for the extension and new warranty for all new systems sold.
Xbox360 is cheaper than the PS3. $349 and it comes with a HDD, headset, wireless controller, component cable, and ethernet cable. It's backwards compatible with the majority of Xbox games. The $399 PS3 gets you no PS2 backwards compatibility, an RCA cable, a wireless controller. The $499 PS3 gets you backwards compatibility and, still, an RCA cable.
Blu-ray/HD-DVD? Don't need it. Have no interest in the format war. As someone who bought into SACD and DVD-Audio, I WILL NOT invest in either format until there is a clear winner. Most consumers feel that way, seeing as how poor the PS3 and other HD players have been selling. Wi-Fi? Again, useless. I want to use my system to its fullest capabilities. Not just for some cheesy, slow online games. I want to stream HD video, play fast paced games like UT3... but oh, wait, the PS3 version of UT3 will be capped at 30fps and run 20% slower according to Mark Rein!
Nintendo is a gaming legacy, to come out and say its just kid stuff is a bit ignorant. Gaming as we know it today was shaped by a lot of the descions that Nintendo made. Our controllers evolved from Nintendo, platformers evolved from Nintendo roots, at some point in time every gaming company wanted to be just like Nintendo and in some aspects still to this day most want to be the same as them in regards to making profits on their consoles from Day 1.
What Nintendo did prior to the release of the Nintendo64, when they started on their down hill race, does not matter at all today.
"Platformers" were available well before Donkey Kong (which Nintendo fanboys try to say is the first platformer), 3D platformers had been done as far back as the 80s so Mario 64 was not the first, analog controllers were available for the Atari systems.. What exactly did Nintendo do? Well, they had some good games.. Mario 64 was the last. What they produce now... I have no idea what they're thinking, but they're laughing all the way to the bank because their fans still buy them no matter how bad they are.
And yet somehow I manage to maintain a smooth connection, somehow I manage to play good-looking games online without interference, somehow I manage to do all this. Surely it's not magic, is it?
Well, considering you have a MacBook, a Mac Pro (which comes standard with several year old technology on the GPU) and you're defending the PS3... I doubt you know what a "smooth" connection is when it comes to gaming, or what good games look like in general.
The funny thing here is that the GeForce 8400M GS in my HP not only blows away my MacBook when it comes to Half-Life 2, but it can run Half-Life 2: Orange Box at 720p at 60fps while the PS3 version has been confirmed to turn into nothing but a pretty slide show at many parts of the game
And 'thousands' of posts out of millions of PS3 users is hardly a major issue.
"Millions" of PS3 users? According to who? Sony? Yeah, Sony posts their "shipped" numbers. So far they have about 6.5 million "shipped". But how many of those have been sold? You know, every single store I walk into that sells videogames has an abundance of PS3's in stock. The last few times I went into Fry's, they had stacks of more than 100 PS3s, sometimes multiple stacks. All unsold. While the Xbox360 and Wii displays had very large dents in their displays. This weekend I saw PS3 displays untouched while Xbox360 and Wii supplies in stores were sold out.
Come to think of it, I have YET to see someone purchasing a Playstation3 in person. But every time I go into a major retailer, there is at least one person buying an Xbox360 or Wii.
and yet I am still using my day one X360. If you read this forum, all x360 are broken and not working which is far from the truth.
Exactly. I have a friend who is an avid gamer and her Xbox360 was purchased right after launch. Not a single issue with it. I don't know a single real person who has had a problem with the Xbox360. Yet all of those same people experienced DREs with their PS2. I only know 1 person with a PS3 and he doesn't even use it, so its difficult to even begin to talk about the failure rate of the PS3 when it goes unused.
Bose, always been good to me.
Go try a better product
You'll see that Bose might not be bad in the build quality department, but they are bad in that they charge 10x more than their product is worth.
I loved Gran Turismo up until GT4 when Sony pulled all of the promised features at the last minute. Now GT5 is going to be microtransaction hell. You'll spend $60 for the "game" and then the rest of it will become available through microtransactions later on.
Not to mention we're on the 5th game in the series and we still don't have car damage and we're still driving around through static environments with generic 3D people. Is it really so hard to animate some trees?
