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My rule, (learned from painful expensive experience) when it's time eventually to buy a new iPhone (whenever that may be) only update it to the next numerical iOS update (if you want) and stop there. Don't update to the second one. Example: If a phone shipped with iOS 8, upgrade to 9 but not to 10.

That practice will keep your device from slowing down to un-usability due to newer, more demanding OSes.

Once your old phone on an old OS is no longer giving you that warm fuzzy feeling of joy, (cuz you're bored with it or the new phones look too tantalizing) get a new phone with the new OS and start over again.
 
My rule, (learned from painful expensive experience) when it's time eventually to buy a new iPhone (whenever that may be) only update it to the next numerical iOS update (if you want) and stop there. Don't update to the second one. Example: If a phone shipped with iOS 8, upgrade to 9 but not to 10.

That practice will keep your device from slowing down to un-usability due to newer, more demanding OSes.

Once your old phone on an old OS is no longer giving you that warm fuzzy feeling of joy, (cuz you're bored with it or the new phones look too tantalizing) get a new phone with the new OS and start over again.
That's my rule of thumb as well. But it becomes trickier when one owns an iPhone, iPad, and macOS devices. Apple has set things up that if you update one, then you're pretty much required to update all. Then there is the nagging iOS indicators that pop up daily informing you that iOS 11 is available.
 
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Furby Boom out the window. Thanks Disney. Going to consider that before buying Disney products.

I do agree with Apple. Makes sense to kill the old API at some point. Less API hooks, less places for bugs to hide.
 
Have had my time to let go of old 32-bits. :( Everything has its time.
I deleted +100 apps on both iPhone & iPad, most I hadn't opened in ages.
Freed up +5gb on both devices.

Might be some replacement to some, and rest I figured was time to go anyway.
I live :D:p

Were they broke or affecting things on your device ? If not, they probably were not past their time.
 
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I would buy apps for my phone on the App store on iTunes on my computer, and they would be transferred when I synced. With iTunes 12.7, "Apps" is no longer an option on iTunes.
I haven't updated the new itune...but geez....this is anti-consumerism. People need to speak up about this and submit feedback.
 
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Is there a way to check to see if your apps are 32/64 bit? I assume so but any tips? I use Notability heavily for school-all biochemistry and genetics notes and pre quizzes are on that app! I also have a few others I use all of the time.

Edit: Nevermind. I just found this website. I never noticed the feature in settings to check for 32 bit apps. If anyone didn't know-http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/04/04/how-to-identify-32-bit-iphone-apps/
 
I value the idea that "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" What is so broke with 32 bit apps? It is not the consumers fault that some of the developers no longer exist to update their apps that are not broke.

I'm guessing that Apple wants to stop including 32-bit binaries in iOS. More code means more maintenance and more potential attack surfaces. And no, it's not the fault of consumers, but sometimes change is inevitable. The last thing I want is for iOS to become a bloated, slow mess. This one decision by Apple may not appear to have a huge impact on the efficiency of iOS, but they drop legacy features and APIs year after year- over time, this keeps iOS from getting too cumbersome.
 
Is there a way to check to see if your apps are 32/64 bit? I assume so but any tips? I use Notability heavily for school-all biochemistry and genetics notes and pre quizzes are on that app! I also have a few others I use all of the time.

Edit: Nevermind. I just found this website. I never noticed the feature in settings to check for 32 bit apps. If anyone didn't know-http://www.idownloadblog.com/2017/04/04/how-to-identify-32-bit-iphone-apps/
Settings>General>Appllcations will list your 32 bit apps. Notability is fine (great app, BTW).
 
I haven't updated the new itune...but geez....this is anti-consumerism. People need to speak up about this and submit feedback.
I can understand wanting to do that, but IMO, people who are dissatisfied with these moves by Apple should do something else... leave. Apple has shown where they want to take the ecosystem. Putting up a stink now might only stall the inevitable. But they'll try again hoping to wear those complainers down. I'm getting tired of having to stand against the tide of these moves by Apple.

I don't begrudge anyone who is content with the way Apple does things, but for me, I'm reaching the end.
 
I can understand wanting to do that, but IMO, people who are dissatisfied with these moves by Apple should do something else... leave. Apple has shown where they want to take the ecosystem. Putting up a stink now might only stall the inevitable. But they'll try again hoping to wear those complainers down. I'm getting tired of having to stand against the tide of these moves by Apple.

I don't begrudge anyone who is content with the way Apple does things, but for me, I'm reaching the end.
I hear you. Either developers update or it's gone...
 
Were they broke or affecting things on your device ? If not, they probably were not past their time.

Ah well, iOS says they wont work after installing iOS11 so I think they are past their time later today after installed it

Settings > General > About > Apps - there you have all 32 bits listed that wont work after iOS11 installation.
 
I can understand wanting to do that, but IMO, people who are dissatisfied with these moves by Apple should do something else... leave. Apple has shown where they want to take the ecosystem. Putting up a stink now might only stall the inevitable. But they'll try again hoping to wear those complainers down. I'm getting tired of having to stand against the tide of these moves by Apple.

I don't begrudge anyone who is content with the way Apple does things, but for me, I'm reaching the end.
I'm getting there myself. I "made the switch" but I might be making it again back the other way. I am tired of Apple doing things with literally no regard as to how it affects customers. Or how much time they make people spend on mitigating the decisions Apple thrust upon them.

Their billions in the bank has made them become literally careless of their customers. It's ironic that Steve Jobs used to talk about pain points in the industry when Apple has become one of the biggest pain points around.
 
or just don't update...

Lucky i already downloaded 10.3.3 few days go, and will keep it as a backup to restore until it's unsigned.

Could be a warning to people who like these older apps and update available to download 10.3.3 now before it's too late.. My iPad will never get to iOS 11, because i have a bunch of apps that developers have abandoned after long development, and substitutes look crap from.

I bet free apps will be the hardest hit, as their be no requirement to update these to IOS 11..... Since these are not paid, there would be more of a reason t just "throw in the towel" so as a results many free only apps would be gone.
 
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or just don't update...

Lucky i already downloaded 10.3.3 few days go, and will keep it as a backup to restore until it's unsigned.

Could be a warning to people who like these older apps and update available to download 10.3.3 now before it's too late.. My iPad will never get to iOS 11, because i have a bunch of apps that developers have abandoned after long development, and all other "look-a-like" apps from other the ones i have are crap... I bet free apps will be the hardest hit, as their be no requirement to update these to IOS 11..... Since these are not paid, there would be more of a reason t just "throw in the towel" so as a results many apps will be gone.
Not updating might not be an ideal. There are going to be apps that use that might require update.
 
So what mission critical 3rd party apps will be gimped tomorrow unless you move over to iOS11? Thats always what forces you to upgrade.
 
Not updating might not be an ideal. There are going to be apps that use that might require update.

True, but only for 'active' development apps, no for inactive.. It's not developers job to keep updating every single app they have ever made.., At one point you do have to retire and move on... Trouble is, is uses like these apps, are the new ones on the store are rubbish, then there is no obligation/or forced on to the user to update these apps just so they must update iOS will will probably cause other apps to not work either..

Apart from security issues, it's totally the uses decision. in all cases. This is why before any app update i read what is included, otherwise i won't update an app.
 
"Customers on older devices like the iPhone 5 and 5c that can't install iOS 11 will not be affected."

Phew.. my parents are safe..
 
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